Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows

Another thought - you could give CDS rectally as well.

Thanks Horsefeathers, you know I will Iv really taken to him, im a big softy anyway but he is so adorable. When I visited this time he didnt seem with it, He'd had a bit of diarrhea so I moved him and cleaned his tale up a little, he seemed very weak and when i put my finger in his mouth he wasn't interested at all, no suckling action and wasn't supporting the weight of his own head. I sat with him and picked bits of dirt from his fur, stroked him and talked to him in a soothing voice, I started to rub and scratch his ears and he pushed against me to do it more. I gently coaxed him into taking some CDS and it wasn't long at all before he was guzzling it down again and really clamping onto my finger in his mouth. He didnt take the whole dose but very close, he drank most of it and then let me know he didnt want anymore. I have left him to rest and will return in two hours. I am really confident inside myself that CDS will help him, I like to think positively about the things I want to happen, I really believe it helps. I will take some photos tomorrow of 'Calvin' and I hope and pray this will be a thread with a very happy ending. He really does deserve it, thankyou so much for the support so far, i have found such a wonderful community here

Damian

Fourfingerz, the thought had crossed my mind but I have zero experience with enemas! I will do some research into what is involved as if I can attack the viruses from as many angles as possible we might start to get the upper hand. that would make me feel better about the whole CDS cows stomach thing as well.

Looks like you guys are not using CDI (injectable) but for future reference and those who are doing that, it turns out I have 2 pages regarding CDI now on my site,

www.michaelharrah.us/Info-Sheets/cdi-how-to-make-it.html how to make it
www.michaelharrah.us/Info-Sheets/cdi-info-sheet.html reports

The key to the CDI is to use isotonic to dilute it and then add a little unactivated MMS to bring the pH up. Andreas says this give a one-two punch to whatever you are attacking. The chlorine dioxide hits it first then the unactivated MMS activates with the acidity at the site, creates more chlorine dioxide thus hitting it again. This should work great on cancer tumors according to what he said on the one video (second video on this page www.michaelharrah.us/Protocol/learn-more-about-the-parasite-protocol-links.html ).

Michael

Here's to Calvin !!

Your comforting him will help give him the WILL to live - that's just as important as the CDS.

How long has he been sick? How old is he? Did he get his colostrum feeding from his mom? How long since he fed?

I think you should get some milk into him - he's going to run out of energy soon.

And in your spare time - have a life.

Michael your a star, I have had absolutely amazing advice regarding oral doses of MMS and the little calf, I did however start this thread for exactly what you just mentioned, CDI. It has been through lack of knowledge that I could not address injecting the CDS and you have provided just what I was looking for. The wealth of knowledge available from members of this forum is simply astonishing

Thank You

Damian

Hey Fourfingerz, I am going to have a good chat about 'Calvin' with the farmer tomorrow. Our paths just havn't crossed with it being such a busy time on the farms around here. I just wanted to mention the welfare at the farm is excellent, no farmer I have met loves and cares for there animals as much as him and his wife. They are lovely people who respect there animals very much. He does blame poor husbandry however for not noticing the calf 'scouring' sooner (i think this is diarrhea but im not sure). Calvin will most definitely have been with his mother from the start and recieved his colostrum. I will find out the answers to the other questions soon as I am unsure of his age or how long he has been ill. Im keen to know his feeding regime myself. He is over the age when the calves are taken from there mothers? I will report back

Yes "Scours" is a catch all for infants with diarrhea.

We saved a fawn (we're in Canada eh?) with scours in the 1970's. Some children found an abandoned fawn (poor old mom was probably watching) - they took it home and fed it cow's milk - that started the scours. It was brought to us as we had goats. Angelica (the goat) was forced to nurse (locked in a milking stanchion) this fawn . She recovered and thrived. Our cat (Hamlet) would play sabertooth tiger stalking "Shrubby" around the garden - charging in for the kill. Shrubby would stare at him blankly (like what's your problem? She was 5 times bigger than him) - He would then sulk off twitching, complaining he didn't get any respect . We could go out in the yard and call her name - she would come bounding over the fences to say "Hi".

I believe there was a powder supplement to feed for scours - you get from farm feed stores (the farmer probably has it).

we have deer around this area too, they are amazing, so aware of there environment, its very rare I can get anywhere near them!

Ok so I visited Calvin up until 10.30pm last night, I noticed his diarrhea had a slime in it, not like the slime you get if they have worms, there was a good thick layer of it and it was clear to grey coloured, it almost seemed to be a layer over most of his feaces. This morning the slime has dried to almost white in some parts. He didnt drink his milk last night and I think I filled him up on CDS with such regular visits. He is one month old give or take a few days. I am now timing my visits around his feeding times as he is so thin I need to make sure he is getting his food. There was no new diarrhea from him this morning and as of now (lunchtime) there still is none, could be missing his dinner last night, or the CDS clearing the problem up as he had breakfast and has kept it inside himself so far. He has only had one full day of treatment so its very much early days.

I watched a web seminar last night (thanks Michael) and Andreas Kalcker said young cows can handle the CDS/MMS and its only as they get older it gets harder for them to process it via there stomachs.

I still want to aim towards an injection for him but for now I am happy with his progress, the slime seems to be an indication it is working on some level, what do you think?

P.S you should see the look on the farmers face when I go up to dose Calvin, he said in a nice way he believes I am wasting my time, I really want this to work so he can see that there is another way. He has roughly 50 cows and he currently spends £700 each month on treating them

Well, he survived the night! That is good news! Does he seem perkier than yesterday afternoon/evening? If he is keeping food and not passing it through as diarrhea that would seem good news. The slime I am not sure about, may be good, don't know. Hopefully Fourfingerz will read this soon and give his opinion! Is Calvin able to stand yet on his own?

This must be exhausting on you! I know that, oddly enough, it is tiring to keep at things every few hours.

Thank you for the update. Keeping you all in my prayers and hopefully it will all work out real well!!!