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I thank everyone who as voiced their opinion on this thread, I like to say that Steve was hard on me but he was respectful and he was debating his point of view using science and math. Pam was respectful also although she came across like if I have some hidden agenda.

Yes I am the new neighbor next door you never met, and yes maybe I come across a little arrogant in the way I write, does this style of writing look Familiar, its JH style also . I guess my style of writing like Steve said is Technical in nature, my background in computer science and electronic engineering; I may come across rash at times.

I will not explain who I am what I have done in my life, don’t think this is a place for that, I would like to say I am just trying to help, voice my extensive background and offer support to MMS project. I do not expect what I say to come across pleasing because I do like to go against the grain, rebel at heart.

I do not have any hidden agenda, I have been researching Holistic medicine now for some time, and through that journey I came across MMS. I have read virtually every document out there, seen virtually every video out there and yes I now take and recommend MMS and speak to everyone about it.

Now getting back to this thread so far here is what I see. We got Pam and Steve stating something of what I have written, I would like to address each one.

Steve says, . “It's called Stabilized Oxygen, and has been around for decades.” Stabilized oxygen is alkaline, with a pH of 12.5. When it is ingested and contacts the acids in the stomach, the solution becomes highly unstable, breaking down immediately. Upon breakdown, the stabilized oxygen releases ions of chlorite, trace amounts of sodium and chlorine dioxide, and molecular oxygen into the plasma of the bloodstream.

Chemically speaking drinking raw MMS gives the same reaction with the stomach, but with a 22.4% or 28% solution it is much more potent than what we get from stabilized oxygen used for camping trips, So I think that MM, which is what I am talking about is not the same thing JM used in the Jungle that he had in his backpack on his first trip.

Pam thinks this of me, He pops in every so often and reads threads and gives a tidbit of information on a topic and then suggests people contact him for more (I assume as clients or for fee) .

There is not one mention to contact me on any of the three threads I posted, CLO2/MMS is safe and it is real just do a little research for yourself, Documenting Success Stories, and A possible new way to take MMS, the importance of an empty stomach. I did this to help the cause by validation MMS with clinical studies, by addressing the need of documentation, and by the need of simplify treatment even further.

I will not post anything else on MMS and Stomach Acid until I have exact math, I am trying to talk to real chemists to get exact reaction times, to prove right or wrong that you can also take MMS raw with a HCL booster and get better results. As I do have a life and still have not able to address this more, which I feel it is important.

One final interesting subject I let you ponder on notice that MMS2 is in capsules and you are letting the stomach take care of the chemical reaction, well if it works for Ca(ClO)2. Then it has to work for NACLO2 it the same family all your doing is changing Calcium for Sodium.

The math will come soon I promise, any help appreciated.

You're mind reading, Lopez. I did not state that about you, but about the person that was mentioned in the quoted post. The whole post was about a man named Wil - which should have been abundantly clear.

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This was my post :

of Steve's post:

I myself have given serious thought to taking the MMS acronym off my labeling altogether. I understand the reasons a supplier or professional would do this. It doesn't bother me, and if Wil stopped visiting here because of something said, then I'm sorry I missed that, I would have certainly said something. I speak with lots of folks, and some people follow JH quite fervently.

My response to Steve's post:
I haven't seen anything Wil might have said that caused that kind of a ruckus - He pops in every so often and reads threads and gives a tidbit of information on a topic and then suggests people contact him for more (I assume as clients or for fee) - but I've never seen anyone contradict or have an issue with him.
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Sorry Pam, read it wrong !

By the way I have experienced the energy people are talking about, I am taking MMS to cure something I have that hope does not turn to be serious kinda worries me, Let see what happens.

Let you know how it goes, I can say that taking the MMS with activator, I am up to 6 drops per dose without any advert effects, I in two weeks have not gotten any nausea at all. I gave to a friend with a cold and knock the cold immediately.

Thank-you Lopez for trying to further the quest for knowledge. Whether you other guys like it or not, you did come across harsh on him, and don't really give a good impression of the church. i arrived here expecting to find people hungry for knowledge to try and help other people, and in this thread thread the overwhelming impression is more like "don't question anything, this is the way we do it, and that's it."

what a shame.

This is my impression of this thread and some of the reactions to it. Criticise how I feel if you like, but it is just how I feel.

Hi,
Raw MMS hasn't been good for my stomach - I tried taking it raw twice and both times, within about 20 minutes, began vomiting. So I don't think this way of doing it would work for me. Here's a way that I have developed though, that I like and I'd like to share with this topics group. If anyone here can see any drawbacks to taking it this way (see the link below), I'd like to know them. Here's the link for my way of making it:

genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=31&id=20140&Itemid=66

Thanks in advance for any input that you can give.

Scott

Hi Truthquester,
without going through the whole thread of the link you posted for the 7 day MMS, did it ever get clarified if the 7 day MMS is equally strong until the seventh day? Does it possibly get stronger up to day lets say day 4 and then looses it's strength? If it stays almost the same then this would be a great way for my friend to prepare it. (in my case I am doing the slow baby bottle protocol and have not been able to get to the regular 3drops per dose yet). Not sure if Pam or Michael have tested the various stages of strength yet? Please advise.

Thanks,

sevenrays

Hi Sevenrays,

Macaddict08 (Clint) tested it on day 8 and based upon the pics he posted on that same thread, it looks like it did at least stay about the same as on day 1 (to me the day 8 pic of the clo2 test strip looks just a little darker than day 1 but Michael stated that he thought it looked a little less dark - maybe you can take a look and let us know what you think).

Yea, I really like doing it this way because #1, it really seems to be easier on the stomach - I was able to take the equivalent of 8 drops per hour for about 12 hours without any stomach upset at all the other day, and therefore was able to cure what I'm pretty sure was a kidney infection in just a day. I think it's easier on the stomach because it's activating all of the raw mms. #2 - it tastes better and 3, it's very convenient because you're making up 7 days at one time and it's just there when you need it. To give you an example of why this convenience can be so important, here's what I did the other day with my kidney infection event. I noticed a pain in my back when I got up in the morning to go to work. I got ready and left the house without taking any mms with me (again, I just thought it was a back problem at first). I left the house and walked about 5 minutes to catch my taxi to take me to work. By the time I got into the taxi though, the pain had gotten worse and I noticed that it was especially worse with every step that I took - like the vibration was causing there to be more pain which is what made me think that it was probably my kidney and not my back. So after I got in the taxi, I asked the driver to take me home and wait a couple of minutes. I went inside real quick, opened the fridge and grabbed my pre-made supply of 7 Day Fridge MMS and jumped back into the taxi and headed off to work. At work (I'm an English teacher in Indonesia) I made up my daily 8 hour dose bottle of mms (but I more than doubled it so that it would be 8 drops per hour instead of 3) and drank it every hour throughout the day and when I got home I did some more till bedtime.

If it wouldn't have been that convenient I may not have gone back to my home to get it at all and if that were the case, I might have had a very serious problem with my one and only kidney (I was born with only one).

So I highly recommend it and my wife likes it better this way too. By the way, I recently made it with just brown sugar and water (instead of sweet tea), and it tastes great. You can't even detect the normal mms flavors that can be repulsive for some people - especially over time - hahaha .

Here's the link to the 7 Day Fridge MMS - Especially take a look at page 10 or 11 (I think) because that's where I put some new instructions on how to make it using hot water:

genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_k...=20140&Itemid=66

Take care,
Scott

Hi Scott,
I checked out the pixs of the test strips. Looks like day 8 was still up there very close to day 1. That is awesome.

Thank you for sharing the kidney story. What an awesome testimony.

I will forward the instructions to my friend. I am a bit hesitant right now since I just had a herx reaction last weekend and am taking it easy with the baby bottle protocol. (you said you have been on MMS for 3 years that is awesome and you don't have to worry about herx anymore I believe. Later on once I built up to 3drops per dose this will come in handy for me for sure.

Keep up the great work you do ,

sevenrays