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27 Nov 2011 22:58 #8466 by Polak
Nir, I'm just trying to understand, the mechanism by which to determine the dosage of CDS. A client of mine, with lung cancer, feels very bad drinking MMS1 and I would like to know, what dose of CDS can recommend. 1ml, 2ml...?

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27 Nov 2011 23:10 #8467 by Nir
well, i really do not think we will have new protocols for CDS for a few months, until more data will be available from people that experiment on CDS.

So, for now all i can say is that if the protocol for cancer is as many drops as one can take without getting sick for 10 hours + MMS2 every 2 hours, I would suggest taking 3-4ml every hour for 10 or more hours a day + MMS2.

or to keep taking the protocol of MMS drops and wait with the CDS for a while until answers will start coming. for now there are no protocols or suggestions for use of CDS for a specific illness except for the idea that 1ml of CDS is equal to 3-4 drops of MMS1.

For now, people should use their own judgment on how to use it or if to use it at all....

Nir

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28 Nov 2011 00:14 - 28 Nov 2011 00:17 #8468 by pam
OK, I will throw this in - a cancer patient traditionally would be on the 2000 protocol. Which is start low with MMS1, and increase - (beyond the 3 drop dose) to as much as they can take without being sick. This is hourly for 10 hours. Plus you do the calcium chloride (MMS2) every 2 hrs, 4 or 5 x a day, again starting LOW, and building up.

I would think that the protocol would remain the same. The value is that someone who can't stand MMS1 can do the CDS - I'd start at the 3 drop dose (1mL) if they can do that, in a day or so, I'd go to 1.5mL, increasing slowly, just as you would with MMS1. If they have a problem with the 1mL dose, I'd drop back to .5mL. Just as you would do with MMS2. The thing you're looking for is the herx reaction to determine the dosage. You're going to have to do the same thing with the CDS.

I can't do MMS1 at anything greater than a 2 drop dose. I started CDS on a 3 drop (1mL) dose with no problem

LOL, I just read Nir's post and realized I'm basically repeating what he said.

This is about the best thing I can state, and it's based on common sense, not on anything that has been published.
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28 Nov 2011 01:58 #8469 by Michael Harrah
Hi Polak,

In regard to the dosage question for the lung cancer, I can tell you I took 1 tsp. (5 ml) doses every hour for 10 hrs one day and didn't get anything but maybe a slight headache a few times. Ever since I started making it 10 days ago, on the other 9 nine days I have been taking 1/2 tsp. (2.5 ml) doses every hour usually about 10 hrs/day.

Half tsp. (2.5ml) feels right for me.

Mark did say in that video of his that 1 cc/ml of CDS equals 4 drops of MMS. So it appears they have decided it equals 4 drops instead of 3 drops as Andeas reported. Mark also said that they used the 4 drop calculation to cure the Leukemia case using the equivalent of protocol 1000, 3 drops every hour for 8 hours/day.

Mark also pointed out they took 6 ml of the CDS (same as 24 drops MMS) and put it into a liter of water and then the patient drank 1/8 liter each hour--so that is very convenient.

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28 Nov 2011 04:20 #8471 by Michael Harrah
Today I did a generation using 6% HCl for activator and I did get melting of PET plastic in the cold recipient bottle. The gas generation happens really fast with the 6% HCl. The smaller reaction bottle turned to a lighter color quicker.

Most of the gas was generated in the first 5 minutes and I even smelled chlorine dioxide coming out of the vent valve on the cold bottle right at first. I had the distilled water chilled very well and in a bucket surrounded by ice water. So I think the gas generation is too quick with 6% HCl and you lose some because it could not absorb quick enough in the cold water. And you need to use glass bottles or you get plastic melting, at least with the thin PET bottles.

It is probably good i was using a glass bottle for the reaction chamber. My HDPE stiff hose does still look fine like it was not affected.

Also, kwag sent me this link for stoppers ( www.hometrainingtools.com/stoppers/c/126/ ), which looks pretty good. Thanks Karl!

One more link I found today is for a dilution calculator www.restrictionmapper.org/dilutioncalc9.html that was great for finding out how much 37% HCl and how much water to get 6%.

Michael
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28 Nov 2011 07:42 - 28 Nov 2011 07:49 #8473 by Polak

This is the solution which I did on Friday. The color of the solution is deep yellow, but this is not clearly visible because the image is of poor quality.

I do not think there should be a new protocols. These are great! Only need to define criteria by which to determine individual doses. That's it.
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28 Nov 2011 10:23 #8474 by jemco
If the PET plastic will melt, then shouldn't we suspect rubber (for the stopper) as well?
I have not yet made CDS, but I purchased two cork stoppers for 20 cents and three feet of polyethelyne 1/4 OD tubing for 12 cents per foot.
I have two beer bottles to use.
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28 Nov 2011 10:54 #8475 by Edwin3110
If using glass bottle... do not try the 6% HCI activator.... it is dangerous if its explode.... i use a tupperware types bottle with no problems using 6% HCI.....

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28 Nov 2011 11:10 #8476 by Polak

Edwin3110 wrote: If using glass bottle... do not try the 6% HCI activator.... it is dangerous if its explode.... i use a tupperware types bottle with no problems using 6% HCI.....


Edwin, I can not understand this. You are not using a 28% activator? What are these 6%?

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28 Nov 2011 13:17 #8477 by Edwin3110
Hi;

In the beginning... as the photo shows... i used the 25% Sodium Chlorite Solution to mix with 6% HCI... i have seen it very volatiles during the making of CD gas.... but my both plastic tupperware were not effected at all.... seeing this... i feel if one try to used glasses for the mix as i do it may be danger because the gas is quick to produce CDS..... I like this way of producing because it take less time...

My upcoming mixture will only used 6.25% of sodium chlorite to mix with 6% HCI..... to produce a 800ml CDS solutions....

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