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file NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker

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25 Nov 2011 13:05 - 26 Nov 2011 14:28 #8424 by Edwin3110
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25 Nov 2011 13:58 - 25 Nov 2011 14:11 #8425 by kwag
Why saline and not distilled water?
I understand the saline for IV use, but for drinking, couldn't we just use distilled water?

EDIT: Never mind. Just read Jim's post, where he prefers distilled water.
So I guess distilled water will be for me :D

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25 Nov 2011 15:06 #8426 by pam
Yeah, either/or works fine, you just HAVE to have saline for injections. I am so NOT a chemist, and I certainly don't understand the gas suspended in water (seems to me like the gas bubbles would go to the top of the liquid) - but my "emotional" reaction is that maybe with the saline in there, there's something for the CD to "hang onto." - I am NOT trying to encourage/discourage anyone from making their own decision - remember, I don't know. Just sharing my thoughts on it.

kwag wrote: Why saline and not distilled water?
I understand the saline for IV use, but for drinking, couldn't we just use distilled water?

EDIT: Never mind. Just read Jim's post, where he prefers distilled water.
So I guess distilled water will be for me :D

Thanks

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25 Nov 2011 15:39 - 25 Nov 2011 15:53 #8429 by kwag

pam wrote: but my "emotional" reaction is that maybe with the saline in there, there's something for the CD to "hang onto."


Hi Pam,

I believe the Chlorine Dioxide gas will bind to the water molecules. So as long as it's tightly closed in a container and kept in a dark/cool place, it should last a long time.
I think I read that or saw a video. Can't recall if it was Jim Humble or Andreas who mentioned that.
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25 Nov 2011 15:41 #8430 by pam
You undoubtedly are right. As I said, my response is totally emotional :D Next batch will be in distilled water.

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25 Nov 2011 15:54 #8431 by kwag

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25 Nov 2011 21:30 - 25 Nov 2011 21:42 #8437 by kwag

pam wrote: I thought about that, but also was concerned about metal lids. You can, however, get plastic lids for the canning jars.

I am using the stoppers from the wine making store, the ones with holes in them. (I had bought a bunch to use to make sauerkraut-making kits for friends for Christmas) - The holes exactly hold 3/8 inch tubing from the hardware store. So, it's either slip a venting needle (whatever is used) in with the 3/8 inch tubing, or drill a small hold in the stopper to hold the venting needle. I may well go the second route.

When I get my first batch done, will do photos and post here. We have some grand opportunities to share our ideas - I am hoping others will share their photos, like Michael did.
Pam


Just finished making mine with 1/4 inch black rigid tubbing from Home Depot (couldn't get clear, because they had only soft tubbing) and I used cork stoppers! Really cheap. :)
Here's the pic. Doesn't show the "Basketball Needle" for releasing pressure. I put that in after the picture was taken.

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26 Nov 2011 02:28 - 26 Nov 2011 02:29 #8441 by rondellejones
Thanks to all of you for sharing your methods and ideas. I've used MMS for quite some time but I can not get my spouse to use it b/c she can not stand the smell or taste. Any time I make any she refers to it as "your poison". LOL

She HAS noticed that I have not been sick in 2 years so if I can get her to tolerate a form of the MMS then she can see what it feels like to have freedom from sickness.

In regards to making the CDS, since the chemicals seem to be very powerful, I am concerned about using plastic. I noticed a few of you on here have the same concerns. For example someone mentioned pitting of the plastic tubing.

I am excited to make my first batch of this but it will take me longer to source all glass materials, especially the glass tubing. I am considering using plastics for my first batch.

For those of you that are more experienced in working with MMS/CDS using plastic, which types of plastics are the best to use?

Just looking around the house, most of the plastic bottles I see are PET. Would that be ok? Some heavier plastic containers are made of HDPE...

Thanks!
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26 Nov 2011 03:08 - 26 Nov 2011 03:08 #8442 by kwag
Hi rondellejones,

I prefer glass bottles. For the tubbing, I guess plastic is ok, because once the gas goes through, you can wash it with running water, and also the corks.
See, I don't mind drinking some wine with some little scraps of cork in the bottle, but I would definitely mind drinking MMS with toxic rubber residue :D
Just a suggestion ;)
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26 Nov 2011 03:53 - 27 Nov 2011 06:44 #8443 by Michael Harrah
Hi rondellejones,

In response to your question about plastics, my two bottles are PET. See the pics of my 'quickie' set up ( genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8260&limit=6&limitstart=6&Itemid=66#8282 ). Right after generating, the smaller bottle that had the MMS and HCl activator is yellow, but after exposure to the air for a few days it goes back to clear. I do not see any pitting in it at all, nor in the other clear PET bottle for receiving the gas.

The tubing I am using looks to me like it is HDPE it is a translucent whitish (just like 'natural' hdpe), and is quite stiff. I have not noticed any pitting with it. It is yellow right after generation but then after a few days in the air it clears up again. I think it is food grade because it is the same tubing they sell for installing icemakers. At home depot (lowes too I am sure) it comes in a 25' roll and is pretty cheap. The label says "Watts" is the maker: "polyethylene tubing 1/4" x .170" x 25 ft."

I have generated twice now, 800 ml and 1000 ml and have not noticed any pitting of the plastic, and in fact the plastic looks good.

I do want to work on a glass setup. If someone finds sourcing for this, please post some links.

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Michael
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