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Hi ZnzMagic;

It is best not to seek the powdered form for MMS1 as it is also a material to make bomb.... it is best you look for 25% solution in a big barrel types as this is more easy to buy. furthermore... if you are to import yourself the powdered types... you need to have a manufacturer that have certificate of analysis in its contains... if when this certificate were not able to match the analysis on your local pharmaceutical analysis, you are not to allow to import... this is what happen in malaysia as well and i believed this is international safety conditions.

As for MMS2.. it should be available from any dealer that deal with swimming pools.... the current MMS2 capsule maker that i had is manual types of which can produce 100 capsule in one inserts. It is made locally or from china i believed... i had two... so in one go... i can make 200 capsule.... i normally do about 800 capsule each time for stock... it take about 3 hour..... i also do the 1/4 capsule so that no waste of powder for new person as test capsule to see if they can handle MMS2.

Here is the link for MMS1

Sodium Chlorite

Thanks, MMS2 is new to me so what would be a standard whole sale amount to buy of MMS2 and where do I get it from sure I can get pool cleaning chemicals in TZ everyone has a pool have a mate who owns MerryWater a pool and plumbers company should easily be able to get pool chemicals will do research for te rest but if I can get all the other packaging material cheap from China or where ever please point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards

Hi David, MMS2 is commonly marketed as "pool shock." The chemical name of the actual molecular compound is Calcium Hypochlorite - Ca(ClO)₂. It's available in different concentrations, the higher the concentration the better (less of other chemicals in the formula), the highest I've seen is 78% calcium hypochlorite.

MMS1/sodium chlorite powder is also commonly available. Usually it is 80% NaClO₂ by weight, the other 20% being mostly salt (sodium chloride). I don't think sodium chlorite is used for making bombs, as it doesn't have enough explosive power and is very unstable. But it is explosive if not mixed with salt.

Hope this helps.

I think the standard MMS2 will come from a barrel of 60kg. Mostly come from China. but i now still buy 1kg bag cos this already could make thousands of mms2 capsule.... so buy small in the beginning is best way....

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David, 1 pound of MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite pool shock) will make hundreds of capsules. Just make sure the pool shock has CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE as the active ingredient. Some pool shocks have a different active ingredient, and they will not work. Only calcium hypochlorite pool shock can be used.

Here in the US, 1 lb. is $5 or less. Here is an example www.lesliespool.com/Home/Pool-Chemicals/Pool-Shock/14620.html.

You probably do not want to buy a larger quantity of MMS2 unless you have air tight containers to put it into. I have read that exposure to air causes the calcium hypochlorite to gradually lose potency. So it is better just to buy it one pound at a time.

The percentage of "available chlorine" rating of the pool shock is not relevant, they vary, although higher rating would be better if you have a choice. Jim has tried them all and says they work. Just make sure the only active ingredient is calcium hypochlorite.

Make sure you buy size 0 capsules for the powder.

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That link for sodium chlorite www.sodiumchlorite.ca/ given by Edwin says they ship international and they have 5 gallon containers of the 25% liquid. That would give you a big start. Then you need plastic bottles.

Wholesale individual bottles of MMS1 can be purchased here www.h2oairwateramericas.com/Products/Wholesale-MMS__MMSWHOLESALE.aspx, and they do international shipping. That is Ron Neer's site and he is a real nice guy and friend of Jim's. You can also buy empty 4 oz bottles with flip top lids from him www.h2oairwateramericas.com/Departments/Bottles-and-Caps.aspx . I bought a case of empty bottles from him and it was .35 cents each without the shipping.

The sodium chlorite flakes/powder are unstable so that is why it would be hard to obtain. Here in the US it is a hazardous material but it can still be obtained pretty easily by the drum.

Edwin, do you sell MMS1 and MMS2 or do you loan out bottles or give things away and just ask for donations, how do you work that?

I do by donations only..... i said when i got money i can help more.... so is all up to them to support me.... most of the time... their donations is better pricing then those sell on the internet,,., I even got one person who take back to holland give me donation about USD150.00 for a supply of two years.... so that he will be able to use it until next return....

Many locally will give donation for about USD15.00 for whole family usage.... some give USD30.00 monthly... i would say 40% will give good donation if they have better living standard.

Edwin that is great that you are getting enough donations to keep things going. Do you advertise or do anything special to bring people in?

Also, where to you get your empty bottles if you are buying that 25% sodium chlorite solution in bulk?

Thanks,
Michael