Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
### Research Section Disclaimer

None of the products, protocols or methods here have been approved by Jim Humble. This is the research forum and was set up for those wanting to discuss and experiment with MMS, and new complimentary technologies. Any experimentation that you personally do is at your own risk. Before anything is submitted for approval it must be first approved by Jim Humble in writing and posted under his account. The main source for approved material, protocols etc, is in Jim Humble's latest book at www.jhbooks.org Each person using this Forum is considered to be completely responsible for themselves and their own personal health. Any experimentation that you personally do is at your own risk.

TOPIC:

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 01:58 #8469

  • Michael Harrah
  • Michael Harrah's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1209
  • Thank you received: 1554
Hi Polak,

In regard to the dosage question for the lung cancer, I can tell you I took 1 tsp. (5 ml) doses every hour for 10 hrs one day and didn't get anything but maybe a slight headache a few times. Ever since I started making it 10 days ago, on the other 9 nine days I have been taking 1/2 tsp. (2.5 ml) doses every hour usually about 10 hrs/day.

Half tsp. (2.5ml) feels right for me.

Mark did say in that video of his that 1 cc/ml of CDS equals 4 drops of MMS. So it appears they have decided it equals 4 drops instead of 3 drops as Andeas reported. Mark also said that they used the 4 drop calculation to cure the Leukemia case using the equivalent of protocol 1000, 3 drops every hour for 8 hours/day.

Mark also pointed out they took 6 ml of the CDS (same as 24 drops MMS) and put it into a liter of water and then the patient drank 1/8 liter each hour--so that is very convenient.

Michael

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 04:20 #8471

  • Michael Harrah
  • Michael Harrah's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1209
  • Thank you received: 1554
Today I did a generation using 6% HCl for activator and I did get melting of PET plastic in the cold recipient bottle. The gas generation happens really fast with the 6% HCl. The smaller reaction bottle turned to a lighter color quicker.

Most of the gas was generated in the first 5 minutes and I even smelled chlorine dioxide coming out of the vent valve on the cold bottle right at first. I had the distilled water chilled very well and in a bucket surrounded by ice water. So I think the gas generation is too quick with 6% HCl and you lose some because it could not absorb quick enough in the cold water. And you need to use glass bottles or you get plastic melting, at least with the thin PET bottles.

It is probably good i was using a glass bottle for the reaction chamber. My HDPE stiff hose does still look fine like it was not affected.

Also, kwag sent me this link for stoppers (www.hometrainingtools.com/stoppers/c/126/), which looks pretty good. Thanks Karl!

One more link I found today is for a dilution calculator www.restrictionmapper.org/dilutioncalc9.html that was great for finding out how much 37% HCl and how much water to get 6%.

Michael
The following user(s) said Thank You: Edwin3110, pam, rondellejones

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 07:42 #8473

  • Polak
  • Polak's Avatar
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 17
  • Thank you received: 5

This is the solution which I did on Friday. The color of the solution is deep yellow, but this is not clearly visible because the image is of poor quality.

I do not think there should be a new protocols. These are great! Only need to define criteria by which to determine individual doses. That's it.
Attachments:
The following user(s) said Thank You: Michael Harrah

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Polak.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 10:23 #8474

  • jemco
  • jemco's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Premium Member
  • Premium Member
  • Posts: 115
  • Thank you received: 112
If the PET plastic will melt, then shouldn't we suspect rubber (for the stopper) as well?
I have not yet made CDS, but I purchased two cork stoppers for 20 cents and three feet of polyethelyne 1/4 OD tubing for 12 cents per foot.
I have two beer bottles to use.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Michael Harrah, Edi

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 10:54 #8475

  • Edwin3110
  • Edwin3110's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 652
  • Thank you received: 515
If using glass bottle... do not try the 6% HCI activator.... it is dangerous if its explode.... i use a tupperware types bottle with no problems using 6% HCI.....
Minister of Health, Penang. Malaysia.

Creator of CDH Plus 1000
A Protocol that can adjust the strength of CD and SC for individual needs.
Read More

Easy way to support Jim Humble, MMS
The following user(s) said Thank You: pam

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 11:10 #8476

  • Polak
  • Polak's Avatar
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 17
  • Thank you received: 5

If using glass bottle... do not try the 6% HCI activator.... it is dangerous if its explode.... i use a tupperware types bottle with no problems using 6% HCI.....


Edwin, I can not understand this. You are not using a 28% activator? What are these 6%?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 13:17 #8477

  • Edwin3110
  • Edwin3110's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 652
  • Thank you received: 515
Hi;

In the beginning... as the photo shows... i used the 25% Sodium Chlorite Solution to mix with 6% HCI... i have seen it very volatiles during the making of CD gas.... but my both plastic tupperware were not effected at all.... seeing this... i feel if one try to used glasses for the mix as i do it may be danger because the gas is quick to produce CDS..... I like this way of producing because it take less time...

My upcoming mixture will only used 6.25% of sodium chlorite to mix with 6% HCI..... to produce a 800ml CDS solutions....
Minister of Health, Penang. Malaysia.

Creator of CDH Plus 1000
A Protocol that can adjust the strength of CD and SC for individual needs.
Read More

Easy way to support Jim Humble, MMS

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 16:13 #8482

  • pam
  • pam's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 4593
  • Thank you received: 3703
Polak, as I recall (correct me if I'm wrong, Edwin) - in Malasia, Edwin cannot get powdered sodium chlorite - only liquid, which is at differing strengths. So some of his work is adaptive to what he has available, yet staying within the protocols.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Edwin3110

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 19:44 #8485

  • rondellejones
  • rondellejones's Avatar
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 12
  • Thank you received: 2
Thanks for posting the link to the stoppers Michael. That site homesciencetools.com is great for getting glasswear too. Everything is reasonably priced and there are no order minimums like some other labware sites I found.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.