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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 05 Dec 2011 18:20 #8867

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Great thanks guys!! Really want to get going on this! Just waiting for a supplier here in the UK to send me the equipment (really helpful guy I found on ebay)

SO excited to be able to take it without that nasty nasty taste!

Lily

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 10:19 #8905

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HI,
Thanks for an informative thread, it is useful.
Im awaiting a fresh supply of mms1 28% this week sometime. As I will be mixing this the same as mms1 mix, should I start a new thread as a project thread to keep the method in one place to not add to a mix of methods in this thread??

I have some questions:
So far, how many drops of mms1 plus citric acid have been found to be the most useful amount, say, for a months supply of cds.?

and for the number of drops of mms mixed, is there yet an established ratio of volume of cds to reach a desired saturation point?

and - i read some people are managing to measure the ppm or strength of cds - how is this done?

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 11:40 #8907

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Hi All,

Just reading around about a few things and was wondering if some could clarify for me. I see on some online articles and even on the 1000+ protocol ( I see Jims protocol online mentions that this is a more effective one for herpes) that people are able to add DMSO to the MMS dose and drink it?! Is this true? What benefit does this have?!

www.genesis2church.is/mms-protocol-1000-plus.html

So if this is the case my second question is can we do this for CDS and if so what amount of DMSO should be added, the 1000+ protocol advises 1 drop of DMSO to 1 drop of MMS ration.

Thanks for your help guys!

Lily
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 15:38 #8909

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Hello everyone.

Now that a lot of us have made this cds we have had more of a "hands on" with chlorine dioxide then ever before. Now we can really see it - it's what is going through that tube and combining with the water at the other end. Well I just came across a couple pdfs put out by the ClorDiSys company (a company that provides chlorine dioxide solutions to industry) that explains just what chlorine dioxide kills - and basically they says that there has NEVER been a bacteria, virus or fungus (including spores) that it has not been able to kill. This stuff we are working with is truly amazing!

Here are the pdfs:

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I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 18:56 #8913

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Thanks Scott, good work!!!

Nice PDFs.

For anyone interested, I am attaching another pdf put out by Oxychem the makers of sodium chlorite; talks about 2 methods of generating chlorine dioxide, somewhat similar to what we are doing.

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 20:56 #8922

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Here you will find everything related to Chlorine Dioxide

www.clordisys.com/site.php?index.php&20
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 06 Dec 2011 21:30 #8924

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Ok as others have mentioned earlier I am confused too! Jims video shows the bottle with distilled water in it with no lid so he didnt need to vent the gas off through a needle as in Mark and Andreas video. Also he said his took 2 hours not 15 mins to 30 mins it took in Mark and Andreas video again? Is his more effective am I imagining it that his solution looked more yellow therefore stronger? Also his measurements are different, he does 2 oz of mixed mms (1oz of citric and 1oz of MMS) to 8 oz of water whereas Andreas does 50 cc of each to 500 cc of water (basically 10 cc of MMS/Citric acid to every 100 cc of water)

So confused! :/ help!
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 07 Dec 2011 01:26 #8935

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I can understand your confusion! <G> I think a lot of us have similar questions, Lily, so don't feel like the lone stranger, as my brother used to say. Questions have been sent off to the DR, and we should have answers soon.

It does appear that Jim's solution is stronger than Mark and Andreas' is. Probably because it is done longer and is more fully saturated. It even looks like Jim's batch that he made in his training video is stronger than the batch he had on the table, in the 4oz bottles. He did not give a dosing measurement in the video. They are continuing to work with this new method, and each success will give them more information. If you can do the mms1, you may want to continue with that and wait until we get the questions answered. Your choice. - and this is all IMHO, of course.

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 07 Dec 2011 03:54 #8939

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Hello.

Here are the pictures of my setup. You'll notice I'm not using rubber stoppers but plastic screw-on caps. I have a drill press and so am able to create near perfect holes which I made just big enough to barely squeeze the plastic tubing through. I then did a pressure check with my mouth to make sure I had a good seal. On the receiving bottle I just poked a hole to allow the pressure to be released and also wasn't concerned about the tight fit of the tubing. My reaction bottle is small glass bottle (about 180 ml capacity, they sell a vitamin C drink in it here) and my receiving bottle is HDPE plastic - it's actually a milk bottle. Another thing I did differently is that I made sure my water was cold first and then just put it into an ice box and put ice packs around it instead of using ice water. For me the process took 35 minutes but that's because I kept stirring the reaction bottle mixture by swirling it occasionally. I noticed that whenever I did this, the bubbles came out much faster - until the swirling stopped - so I kept doing it until even that seemed to slow quite a bit. I used 50 ml mms plus 50 ml 50% citric acid solution.

Some other good facts that should help people are:

1 ml = 1 cc
1 ml = approximately 24 drops
1 ml cds = approximately 3 - 4 drops equivalent mms (I don't know how to verify this - just got it from the videos)
Therefore 8 drops of cds is approximately equivalent to 1 drop of activated mms.
So, for a person doing Protocol 1000, or 3 drops every hour, 8 times in a day, you would need to use 8 ml cds mixed into your water (I'm mixing it into 800 ml of water so that I have 8 - 100 ml servings a day)

5 ml = 1 tspn
15 ml = 1 Tblspn

Hope this all helps :)

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- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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