MMS0 - MMS1 now w/Zero Taste

Well, it turns out I got quite nauseous and had a good colon cleanse after I wrote my last note. My stomach still hurts. I'm pretty convinced that I was taking MMSA and that there was a lot that had not activated, yet, that was activating in my blood stream and building up.

I've taken 6 + 6 drops in capsules every day for over a week as a daily maintenance so I don't think it was just taking the 7 + & drops as my last dose that caused my distress.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to come up with a way to take either CDH or CDS in capsules on p115, but it's not too bad to drink.

Hi Larry.

How long did you activate the SC + 4% HCL in the capsules before swallowing them?

Hi JB - 60 seconds. Ray said that the capsule will start to dissolve at 120 seconds so there isn't much of a window to work with.

Larry, thanks for that info. That means you have made MMS (MMSA or activated MMS or activated SC). Gets confusing! You did not make CDH as the activation time was not long enough. Ten minutes would make CDH, but you can't do that in a capsule.

You ingested 12 drops of 60 second activated MMS during hour one. And 24 drops in a two hour period.

MMS stays in the body about 1.5 hours. At +1.5 hours you had ingested 18 drops. That sounds like a malaria shock dose! Then in the next half hour you took another 6 drops, but by that time, some of the initial drops would have lost their effectiveness.

It would be interesting to do the same test using CDS and CDH. Testing with CDS would be easy, but not so easy with CDH. It can be done by making a small batch of Capsule Method CDH, but since it seems to be unstable after a few hours, most of it would be wasted as you should not keep it any longer.

I have not tested making a Modified Two Bottle CDH small batch to see if 15 drops of it would provide enough CLO2 to equal a 3 drop MMS dose. It might, so I will test and let you know if it works.

Thanks for the info JB. I am very interested in seeing what you find about using 2-bottle CDH for capsules. 15 drops will fit in the large caps I use. Drinking overnight CDH on the p115 protocol works very well for me but if I can do it with capsules, I'd be very pleased.

Larry, I ran a test and the results look good, if my thinking and math is correct. I ran it past Scott just now and he agrees.

What I did was to make CDH in a 1 fl oz (33ml) glass bottle with a Polyseal cap so there was no gas leakage.

8.5ml SC + 8.5ml 4% HCL + 16ml DW = 33ml total
Activation time was 15 minutes, then 1 hour in the fridge before opening the bottle.

As you can see, I did not add 5 times 33ml additional water after the activation period as CDH Two Bottle Method calls for. I left out the additional 165ml of water. So, we have a much stronger CDH solution in just 33ml. Compared to mixing SC and 4HCL only, there was no heating felt on the bottle and just a hint of gas releasing when the bottle was first opened. The color started out a light orange and progressed to medium orange. Will watch for any color change over the next few days.

This CDH produced 0.93mg CLO2/drop of the 33ml CDH. If you can fit 15 drops in a capsule that would give you 14mg of CLO2 per capsule. That is quite a lot of CLO2. I take a 20mg CDH dose once or twice a day.

My activation time tests some time ago for a MMS 3 drop 4HCL 60 second open container activated dose, showed about 2.6mg CLO2. Who knows how much more CLO2 might be generated after the MMS 3 drop dose is ingested. If twice, then the 3 drop dose produced 5.2mg CLO2.

If that is true, then about 6 drops of this CDH might be equal to a 3 drop MMS 4HCL 60 second activated dose.

Rev Ray:

I added the Coconut Water last weekend and feel much better, Yesterday have a little nausea and start eating crackers but reading your post you talk about DMSO, You are talking about DMSO 99% or the one dilute to 70%?

Using the caps add the DMSO at the moment I make the Caps. Add three drops of DMSO?

Wow JB. Thanks! I'm taking a day off from MMS today to let my system recover but I can't wait to try your CDH capsule formula.

I've been using tsp's to measure (1tsp = 5 ml). Do you think it would be okay to simply duplicate your 2 to 1 ratio of DW to the other ingrediants? That would make a batch of 20ml in the 33ml bottle.

My HCL is 4.6%. Is that worth worrying about?

Also, do you think this CDH would be good until it's used up?

Thank you.

Hi GJP
My thought is to activate MMS and after wait period of 60 seconds 20 seconds or ten minutes...
You decide, then I add DMSO and place in cap.
You can mix MMS in cap and add DMSO after wait period if you wait only 20-30 seconds otherwise the risk of melting capsule becomes an issue.
I use 99% DMSO, almost any grade is acceptable. DMSO reduces MMS potency so the protocol is 3 MMS 3 activator and 1 DMSO.
I mix 5+5 wait, add 5 fill cap swallow.
Each of us must gauge what works best for us.


Coconut water, thank you.

Hi Larry.

I have made CDH using a teaspoon measuring spoon, too!
Using a 1 teaspoon and 1/2 teaspoon I would make capsule CDH this way:

Add 2 tsp DW to a 1 fl oz (30ml) glass bottle
Add 1.5 tsp SC
Add 1.5 tsp 4.6% HCL
Fill to top with more DW

That would be 10ml + 7.5ml + 7.5ml = 25ml + additional 5+ml of DW to fill the bottle full.
Activate about 15 minutes then put the bottle in a fridge for an hour or so.
You are done!

You should be close to the basic recipe 2+1+1 and a little more water will be compensated by your 4.6% vs 4% HCL. Fill the bottle as full as you can to keep the air space to a minimum. Past testing has shown a 25% increase in CLO2 when the bottle is full compared to half full. I think we are forcing the CLO2 into solution rather than let it outgas and escape when the bottle is opened.

The color of the CDH I made yesterday looks the same today, so it is more stable than the original CDH capsule recipe of only SC and 4HCL. When I made my morning CDH drink just now, there was a slight outgassing when the bottle was opened. I think this CDH will last a while. Time will tell.