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I Propose a Change to this Forum
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11 Dec 2011 21:20 - 11 Dec 2011 21:21 #9124
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I Propose a Change to this Forum was created by Bill
I am asking Bruce to designate a certain number of experts or good researchers to respond to the many questions posed on this forum.
Bruce may I suggest that all administrators be approved by you based on their knowledge and their communication skills, typing skills as well.
Can you also have a research team that works together to find the correct answers before posting. Call the post under review and block all post to that question until a correct answer has been achieved.
If someone makes a post with the incorrect answer have the Administrators overwrite the post with the correct information.
Lets take this forum to a higher level of professionalism.
Bruce may I suggest that all administrators be approved by you based on their knowledge and their communication skills, typing skills as well.
Can you also have a research team that works together to find the correct answers before posting. Call the post under review and block all post to that question until a correct answer has been achieved.
If someone makes a post with the incorrect answer have the Administrators overwrite the post with the correct information.
Lets take this forum to a higher level of professionalism.
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11 Dec 2011 21:54 #9125
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I vote no.
We could always add some kind of a new area, like for files or a folder with peer reviewed documents or topics and answers.
I am not even sure if that is necessary, but we could discuss that or someting else.
My opinion is that this forum is working for us in a good way.
Have you heard about Jim Humble's topic of acceptance?
My interpretation is that it is a process of accepting what you have.
Joe
We could always add some kind of a new area, like for files or a folder with peer reviewed documents or topics and answers.
I am not even sure if that is necessary, but we could discuss that or someting else.
My opinion is that this forum is working for us in a good way.
Have you heard about Jim Humble's topic of acceptance?
My interpretation is that it is a process of accepting what you have.
Joe
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11 Dec 2011 22:15 #9126
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Ummm, if you want a "highly professional forum" - I suggest you start one yourself. That way you will be able to control it and the information it puts out, and know that it is at the level you're comfortable with.
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11 Dec 2011 22:46 - 11 Dec 2011 23:11 #9127
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Well if everyone is happy to have so much misinformation put out there for all to see then who am I to suggest anything else.
I do think a forum that states 'ask an expert' would be a good idea, a forum where people ask a question and only the experts respond. I think this site is to much of a free for all when it comes to getting accurate answers. I am not suggesting that there are not good answers on this site but just to many people are giving answers that shouldn't be doing so UNLESS they state that it is just their opinion.
I wish I was an expert but I am not so unless some experts want to start this new forum with me then I will have to put it on hold for now.
There are some people on this forum that I would like to join me -- not to take away from this forum but just to start another type of forum.
I can think of a few people right now that do give good answers and I consider them well versed or at least good reaserchers.
Bruce Tanner, Michael Harrah, David, Pam (research), Jim, Jim's research team.
It would be a forum with just direct questions and answers. Who knows maybe Bruce can add that category on this forum like a forum within a forum. Called ask an expert. This way people can still interact on this forum as we do but if an issue is pending where someone urgently needs the right information immediately then "ask an expert does have merit".
Thanks for the suggestion Pam.
I do think a forum that states 'ask an expert' would be a good idea, a forum where people ask a question and only the experts respond. I think this site is to much of a free for all when it comes to getting accurate answers. I am not suggesting that there are not good answers on this site but just to many people are giving answers that shouldn't be doing so UNLESS they state that it is just their opinion.
I wish I was an expert but I am not so unless some experts want to start this new forum with me then I will have to put it on hold for now.
There are some people on this forum that I would like to join me -- not to take away from this forum but just to start another type of forum.
I can think of a few people right now that do give good answers and I consider them well versed or at least good reaserchers.
Bruce Tanner, Michael Harrah, David, Pam (research), Jim, Jim's research team.
It would be a forum with just direct questions and answers. Who knows maybe Bruce can add that category on this forum like a forum within a forum. Called ask an expert. This way people can still interact on this forum as we do but if an issue is pending where someone urgently needs the right information immediately then "ask an expert does have merit".
Thanks for the suggestion Pam.
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11 Dec 2011 23:00 #9129
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Replied by Michael Harrah on topic Re: I Propose a Change to this Forum
Bill,
There are many other people here giving EXCELLENT answers and help to people who need it. We are not getting a lot of disinfo. Bruce and I are watching it carefully. I for one value Edwin's comments a great deal, along with many other others', and certainly anyone who is a Minister.
We have got an excellent group of people here Bill, and if you don't stop denigrating their contributions, I am going to get upset.
In many areas there simply are not clear answers, like you want. So we have to get everyone's input and experiences and in that way we will come to a better understanding. That is the beauty of having everyone involved and contributing.
You have to remember everyone here is a volunteer giving of their time. This is not a paid staff and we have to be thankful for the honest contributions people are willing to make. Again, Bruce and I are watching this place carefully and people are doing an excellent job of helping others in my opinion. Based on my experience Bill, this is as good as it gets in a non profit volunteer situation.
So please, stop the criticism of people who are giving of themselves to help others. I think you are trying to make positive contributions, and I appreciate that, but please be more considerate of other people's feelings when you give your suggestions. You could state things in a way that would not make people who are giving of themselves feel bad, and please recognize the value of everyone's sincere contributions. THEY ARE VALUABLE AND I FOR ONE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO IS CONTRIBUTING.
Michael
There are many other people here giving EXCELLENT answers and help to people who need it. We are not getting a lot of disinfo. Bruce and I are watching it carefully. I for one value Edwin's comments a great deal, along with many other others', and certainly anyone who is a Minister.
We have got an excellent group of people here Bill, and if you don't stop denigrating their contributions, I am going to get upset.
In many areas there simply are not clear answers, like you want. So we have to get everyone's input and experiences and in that way we will come to a better understanding. That is the beauty of having everyone involved and contributing.
You have to remember everyone here is a volunteer giving of their time. This is not a paid staff and we have to be thankful for the honest contributions people are willing to make. Again, Bruce and I are watching this place carefully and people are doing an excellent job of helping others in my opinion. Based on my experience Bill, this is as good as it gets in a non profit volunteer situation.
So please, stop the criticism of people who are giving of themselves to help others. I think you are trying to make positive contributions, and I appreciate that, but please be more considerate of other people's feelings when you give your suggestions. You could state things in a way that would not make people who are giving of themselves feel bad, and please recognize the value of everyone's sincere contributions. THEY ARE VALUABLE AND I FOR ONE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO IS CONTRIBUTING.
Michael
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11 Dec 2011 23:09 #9131
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Michael -- So please, stop the criticism of people who are giving of themselves to help others. I think you are trying to make positive contributions, and I appreciate that, but please be more considerate of other people's feelings when you give your suggestions. You could state things in a way that would not make people who are giving of themselves feel bad, and please recognize the value of everyone's sincere contributions. THEY ARE VALUABLE AND I FOR ONE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO IS CONTRIBUTING.
You are correct, I need to watch what I say and how I say it.
You are correct, I need to watch what I say and how I say it.
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11 Dec 2011 23:20 - 12 Dec 2011 00:15 #9132
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Replied by brtanner on topic Re: I Propose a Change to this Forum
I think that starting out down the road to "professionalism" would be launching an expedition into disaster.
The FDA, the AMA, the CDC, the NIH, all the medical associations and societies, the licensing boards, etc., etc., etc. are all nothing BUT professional. All the regulation, categorization, oversight and judgement have led to the current situation, where no innocent little new idea has a chance in hell of seeing the light of day. This state of affairs, where people have been propagandized and herded into cowering before experts and authorities, has resulted in people being unable to think critically and make their own responsible decisions about their own wellness.
"May I please make a small suggestion, sir?" -- NO! HELL NO! Who do you think you are? No letters behind your name, no white coat, no stethiscope?
In fact, the whole Med/Pharma/Business/Bank oligopoly has gotten to the point where we're now being forced by circumstances to begin to reclaim our responsibility and our heritage as free people. Show me a good idea, and trust me to see it for myself without the seal of professional authority.
I think that we MUST be free to venture out to say our little pieces about what we're seeing without fear of being squashed by some professional expert who knows everything. One of the characteristics of a forum like this is that there's always new posts and information that are getting most of peoples' attention - great infomation that was put up last month is hard to find, without doing some searching. Things constantly evolve.
Hopefully, someone will take a chance to point out that something doesn't make sense, that something may be too risky, that some assumption is just wrong, and so on. Seeing that there are differences of opinion shows people that they need to think it out for themselves before taking decisions.
There are official websites for the Genesis II Church, there are other authoritatively presented sites on MMS - Anyone can create just such an authoritative site themselves and make sure that the information there meets their standards - if that's what they think will help people's wellness and make alternatives available to the world.
I would like to see this forum be a place where there's loads of good information, and freedom of discussion. And, by the way, a place where people have common courtesy for each other and perhaps help each other see when we're getting a little over-weaning and self-inflated. A place where capital-T Truth is what is most highly valued, and where we're all acceptable as we are.
The FDA, the AMA, the CDC, the NIH, all the medical associations and societies, the licensing boards, etc., etc., etc. are all nothing BUT professional. All the regulation, categorization, oversight and judgement have led to the current situation, where no innocent little new idea has a chance in hell of seeing the light of day. This state of affairs, where people have been propagandized and herded into cowering before experts and authorities, has resulted in people being unable to think critically and make their own responsible decisions about their own wellness.
"May I please make a small suggestion, sir?" -- NO! HELL NO! Who do you think you are? No letters behind your name, no white coat, no stethiscope?
In fact, the whole Med/Pharma/Business/Bank oligopoly has gotten to the point where we're now being forced by circumstances to begin to reclaim our responsibility and our heritage as free people. Show me a good idea, and trust me to see it for myself without the seal of professional authority.
I think that we MUST be free to venture out to say our little pieces about what we're seeing without fear of being squashed by some professional expert who knows everything. One of the characteristics of a forum like this is that there's always new posts and information that are getting most of peoples' attention - great infomation that was put up last month is hard to find, without doing some searching. Things constantly evolve.
Hopefully, someone will take a chance to point out that something doesn't make sense, that something may be too risky, that some assumption is just wrong, and so on. Seeing that there are differences of opinion shows people that they need to think it out for themselves before taking decisions.
There are official websites for the Genesis II Church, there are other authoritatively presented sites on MMS - Anyone can create just such an authoritative site themselves and make sure that the information there meets their standards - if that's what they think will help people's wellness and make alternatives available to the world.
I would like to see this forum be a place where there's loads of good information, and freedom of discussion. And, by the way, a place where people have common courtesy for each other and perhaps help each other see when we're getting a little over-weaning and self-inflated. A place where capital-T Truth is what is most highly valued, and where we're all acceptable as we are.
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11 Dec 2011 23:27 - 12 Dec 2011 13:01 #9133
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"May I please make a small suggestion, sir?" -- NO! HELL NO! Who do you think you are? No letters behind your name, no white coat, no stethiscope?
Nice Bruce! NOT !
Your comment is not applicable but if it makes you feel better then have at it.
Nice Bruce! NOT !
Your comment is not applicable but if it makes you feel better then have at it.
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12 Dec 2011 15:43 #9166
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Bill;
I hope what you said here is true.... Expert or no expert is no difference.... what important is to get into the understanding of the person intention by simply asking for more details... this is a productive way to expand knowledge.... sometimes writings cannot determined exact intention of the person unless asking for more understanding....
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Replied by Edwin3110 on topic Re: I Propose a Change to this Forum
Bill wrote: You are correct, I need to watch what I say and how I say it.
Bill;
I hope what you said here is true.... Expert or no expert is no difference.... what important is to get into the understanding of the person intention by simply asking for more details... this is a productive way to expand knowledge.... sometimes writings cannot determined exact intention of the person unless asking for more understanding....
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12 Dec 2011 16:16 #9168
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Bill....
If you suspect you may have a disease or condition you should visit your physician, that is where you will get professionalism.
Alternative medicine practitioners usually make no claims to cure, prevent or treat any disease or condition like the so called professionals.
Only your body can do that.
Natures Law.......
No product warranties or health assurances are granted or implied in anyway, so the saying goes.
Your body and mind should not rely solely upon information you read on this forum.
We encourage people to educate themselves and do their own research.
Probably most people after being let down by professionals they end up if they are lucky with alternative medicine advice which usually works and is simple, lets keep things open for all.
I think a lot of great info is given here and when one of us is wrong others politely correct us, wheres the problem, seems all is done by trial and error, we all experimenting still and making our reports public sharing info and it is as good as you will get anywhere for free may I add.
Thanks.......
If you suspect you may have a disease or condition you should visit your physician, that is where you will get professionalism.
Alternative medicine practitioners usually make no claims to cure, prevent or treat any disease or condition like the so called professionals.
Only your body can do that.
Natures Law.......
No product warranties or health assurances are granted or implied in anyway, so the saying goes.
Your body and mind should not rely solely upon information you read on this forum.
We encourage people to educate themselves and do their own research.
Probably most people after being let down by professionals they end up if they are lucky with alternative medicine advice which usually works and is simple, lets keep things open for all.
I think a lot of great info is given here and when one of us is wrong others politely correct us, wheres the problem, seems all is done by trial and error, we all experimenting still and making our reports public sharing info and it is as good as you will get anywhere for free may I add.
Thanks.......
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