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MMS & GALLBLADDER/LIVER CLEANSES TOGETHER????
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09 Apr 2012 19:43 #15635
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Hi Mickey,
I think I will try the 3 1/2 day cleanse next,its worth a try,but fruit raises my blood sugar and upsets my stomach,as I have digestive issues amongst everything else! I guess a little fruit for 3 days wont hurt too much in the whole picture of things:)I'm craving like crazy and am thinking that its because the cleanse didnt work properly,cant wait to do the next cleanse and hope I feel better next time!
Did you lose weight with your cleanses Mickey?
I've thought about doing home enemas but dont know how to go about them.In Andreas Moritz book he mentions colema boards,but dont know how expensive a home kit of anything would be,as I am on a very limited budget,but I want to do things properly.
I do take D3,but cant take iodine as I have an underactive thyroid and iodine is a no-no when you are taking thyroid meds.
I dont know what 5MMS is,I know its an MMS protocol,but I'm sooo not in tune with any MMS protocols.I have been taking MMS for a few months or so now and am up to 24 drops in 32oz of water.
To answer your other post at the same time,I dont know what the 2000 protocol is,maybe its the one I'm doing!Lol! I also think the MMS has shifted some stones,but its difficult to tell as I have had diarrhoea for several months now,even before the MMS.
I did wonder if it was worth starting my husband on MMS,but am unsure if he is ok taking it with so many meds.Thankyou kindly.
best wishes sharon
I think I will try the 3 1/2 day cleanse next,its worth a try,but fruit raises my blood sugar and upsets my stomach,as I have digestive issues amongst everything else! I guess a little fruit for 3 days wont hurt too much in the whole picture of things:)I'm craving like crazy and am thinking that its because the cleanse didnt work properly,cant wait to do the next cleanse and hope I feel better next time!
Did you lose weight with your cleanses Mickey?
I've thought about doing home enemas but dont know how to go about them.In Andreas Moritz book he mentions colema boards,but dont know how expensive a home kit of anything would be,as I am on a very limited budget,but I want to do things properly.
I do take D3,but cant take iodine as I have an underactive thyroid and iodine is a no-no when you are taking thyroid meds.
I dont know what 5MMS is,I know its an MMS protocol,but I'm sooo not in tune with any MMS protocols.I have been taking MMS for a few months or so now and am up to 24 drops in 32oz of water.
To answer your other post at the same time,I dont know what the 2000 protocol is,maybe its the one I'm doing!Lol! I also think the MMS has shifted some stones,but its difficult to tell as I have had diarrhoea for several months now,even before the MMS.
I did wonder if it was worth starting my husband on MMS,but am unsure if he is ok taking it with so many meds.Thankyou kindly.
best wishes sharon
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09 Apr 2012 22:25 #15639
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Hi back at ya Sharon.
Digestive issues come from a poorly functioning liver/gallbladder. Once you get the stones out, you will see that eventually get back to normal. Ya know on further thought about your recent cleanse results, I have read that it could very well be process, you won't see it until your next flush though because you could have a big one blocking the way for a short time until your next one. If that's the case, it's real important that you try another one 3 weeks after the last one. Don't do them more often than every 3 weeks because it takes 2-3 weeks for more stones to move down from the liver into the gallbladder. The flush empties the gallbladder, while it's the great big liver you're really cleaning. The liver is such a workhorse as you know.
I lost a total of 25 pounds which is exactly what I needed to loose. The liver affects our metabolism so once it's clean, it functions like it's suppose to.
Sorry, I'm not understanding where you got 5MMS from????? I can't find the link that tells how to use Protocol 2000. Maybe someone else will be kind enough to help you with that. I also don't know if it will help your husband or not, but if he were mine, I'd put him on Protocol 1000 a.s.a.p. and work up to Protocol 2000 after 6 weeks or so. Hopefully someone else on this board can help more with that question also.
I take the Lugols because I have low thyroid function. It brings it up to normal without any drugs. Iodine is needed by an unbelievable number of our body's cells, especially the thyroid and woman's breast's! It got rid of my cystic fibrosis breast disease (lumpy breasts). You might want to learn about Lugols solution--it could get you off of your meds.
Best of luck to you.
I lost a total of 25 pounds which is exactly what I needed to loose. The liver affects our metabolism so once it's clean, it functions like it's suppose to.
Sorry, I'm not understanding where you got 5MMS from????? I can't find the link that tells how to use Protocol 2000. Maybe someone else will be kind enough to help you with that. I also don't know if it will help your husband or not, but if he were mine, I'd put him on Protocol 1000 a.s.a.p. and work up to Protocol 2000 after 6 weeks or so. Hopefully someone else on this board can help more with that question also.
I take the Lugols because I have low thyroid function. It brings it up to normal without any drugs. Iodine is needed by an unbelievable number of our body's cells, especially the thyroid and woman's breast's! It got rid of my cystic fibrosis breast disease (lumpy breasts). You might want to learn about Lugols solution--it could get you off of your meds.
Best of luck to you.
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09 Apr 2012 23:08 #15643
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10 Apr 2012 15:55 #15673
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Hi Mickey,thanks for your replies.
I will definately be doing another cleanse in 3 weeks,cant wait,I need them badly after so many years of my body going through hell since childhood and I'm now 45!
I need to lose so much weight,I did lose about 7lb during the cleanse week and 5lb has gone back on in 2 days,how depressing!
My mistake with the 5MMS,you put your helpful list in order and I am so dopey I couldnt see that they went from 1-5.
My husband was going to start the MMS at the same time I did,but as usual,he couldnt be bothered to help himself,but I really want him to start now and he said he's willing to,its just knowing if he can,so I expect the best thing is to start a new subject matter and ask the forum for advice.
Apparantly,its not wise to use iodine when you are already on thyroid meds and not only do I have hypothyroidism,but so does my husband and our 2 kids,its a hereditery thing.
To answer your other post too,thanks for the link,I will look at that and go from there.Thankyou kindly Mickey:)
best wishes sharon
I will definately be doing another cleanse in 3 weeks,cant wait,I need them badly after so many years of my body going through hell since childhood and I'm now 45!
I need to lose so much weight,I did lose about 7lb during the cleanse week and 5lb has gone back on in 2 days,how depressing!
My mistake with the 5MMS,you put your helpful list in order and I am so dopey I couldnt see that they went from 1-5.
My husband was going to start the MMS at the same time I did,but as usual,he couldnt be bothered to help himself,but I really want him to start now and he said he's willing to,its just knowing if he can,so I expect the best thing is to start a new subject matter and ask the forum for advice.
Apparantly,its not wise to use iodine when you are already on thyroid meds and not only do I have hypothyroidism,but so does my husband and our 2 kids,its a hereditery thing.
To answer your other post too,thanks for the link,I will look at that and go from there.Thankyou kindly Mickey:)
best wishes sharon
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12 Nov 2012 19:22 #26417
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Hi - Thank you so much for posting this. I am looking to do Andreas Moritz's cleanse. When I did it the first time - I passed small stones but I felt amazing - for about 2 days. The second time - I passed larger stones and felt amazing again for a few days.
I did not do the enemas which are key parts of the cleanse. I just got my coleman board so I am ready with the Coffee Enemas during the cleanse.
I am wondering if you integrate any mms and/or DMSO enemas? or do you douche with MMS at all to maximize the effectiveness of the cleanse and killing off of pathogens?
I was planning on doing the cleanse - as I do it twice a year - together with Coffee enemas and then afterwards do the MMS/DMSO protocol - since I don't think taking it at the same time would be good? or would it?
I actually learned about MMS from Andreas Moritz's book.
Thanks for all the information you posted. One other question I have is the reaction to Iodine? How you actually take Lugol's iodine everyday?
Thanks!
I did not do the enemas which are key parts of the cleanse. I just got my coleman board so I am ready with the Coffee Enemas during the cleanse.
I am wondering if you integrate any mms and/or DMSO enemas? or do you douche with MMS at all to maximize the effectiveness of the cleanse and killing off of pathogens?
I was planning on doing the cleanse - as I do it twice a year - together with Coffee enemas and then afterwards do the MMS/DMSO protocol - since I don't think taking it at the same time would be good? or would it?
I actually learned about MMS from Andreas Moritz's book.
Thanks for all the information you posted. One other question I have is the reaction to Iodine? How you actually take Lugol's iodine everyday?
Thanks!
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Hi Ayda,
I'm so happy the cleanse worked for you! Keep at it often for at least 3-4 months.
I bought a Colema board here;
www.amenhealth.com/index.html
You don't have to have a board to do a coffee enema. Just do it like any other enema---lie on your right side for 12-15 minutes once you've put as much of the quart of coffee in you as you can hold. Draw your knees up and relax and breathe deeply and slowly. I found a super easy way to make the coffee and it rocks. You dump 1/4 cup to 1/3 cup of coffee into a one quart mason jar, then fill with clean boiling water and put the lid on it tight. Give the jar a shake every once in a while after it's not too hot to handle that is. Wait at least 2 hours, then strain into your enema bucket with a fine strainer. You can also do this before you go to bed and it will be waiting for you in the morning all ready to go soon as you wake up.
No, I wasn't interested in the MMS or DMSO enemas. I don't see why you couldn't do it. I prefer the coffee enemas with liver cleanses to further clean the liver. I had every confidence in the MMS killing my parasites due to the strange stuff I saw coming out of me and my Naturalpath looking at my blood (dark field) was blown away how clean my blood was! It was quite exciting to see how happy my blood cells were moving along! They were like little race cars with no clumping at all and no parasites, viruses or funguses in sight!
No MMS douches either. For me anyway, MMS orally kicked butt all by itself. It also seemed to have helped a great deal with gall stones too as I saw very very few while I was on the MMS.
Lugol's, I take 4 drops in water in the morning and again in the early evening.
Hope this info helps you.
Wishing you great speed to wellness!
Mickey
I'm so happy the cleanse worked for you! Keep at it often for at least 3-4 months.
I bought a Colema board here;
www.amenhealth.com/index.html
You don't have to have a board to do a coffee enema. Just do it like any other enema---lie on your right side for 12-15 minutes once you've put as much of the quart of coffee in you as you can hold. Draw your knees up and relax and breathe deeply and slowly. I found a super easy way to make the coffee and it rocks. You dump 1/4 cup to 1/3 cup of coffee into a one quart mason jar, then fill with clean boiling water and put the lid on it tight. Give the jar a shake every once in a while after it's not too hot to handle that is. Wait at least 2 hours, then strain into your enema bucket with a fine strainer. You can also do this before you go to bed and it will be waiting for you in the morning all ready to go soon as you wake up.
No, I wasn't interested in the MMS or DMSO enemas. I don't see why you couldn't do it. I prefer the coffee enemas with liver cleanses to further clean the liver. I had every confidence in the MMS killing my parasites due to the strange stuff I saw coming out of me and my Naturalpath looking at my blood (dark field) was blown away how clean my blood was! It was quite exciting to see how happy my blood cells were moving along! They were like little race cars with no clumping at all and no parasites, viruses or funguses in sight!
Lugol's, I take 4 drops in water in the morning and again in the early evening.
Hope this info helps you.
Wishing you great speed to wellness!
Mickey
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And now for something completely different...Has anyone experienced "stones" become "stuck" in the colon? This was listed in the "it might happen" section of the publication I read and it does NOT sound pleasant.
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vector, IMHO, if a stone can make it down the skinny gallbladder ducts then no sweat it can make it out the much larger diameter of the colon. I've got 38 liver/gallbladder cleanses under my belt since 2008 and the largest stone I ever saw was the size of a ping pong ball and that's huge! BM is much larger than a ping pong ball. 
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Hi,
I've done 14 liver/gb cleanses, passed many stones and then needed to decrease my thyroid to almost nothing. But I still have thyroid issues. And taking mms makes it worse. I haven't tried Lugol's yet. I'm excited because it could be the answer to helping the thyroid and continuing to be able to take mms. After 2 weeks on mms I am freeeezing cold and my mood is bad. 2 times I've tried. Here's what I learned from another forum - don't know if it's true but sounds true:
Chloride is an halogen with a lighter atomic weight than iodine. If you are not taking Iodine and are iodine deficient, the chloride can take up residence in the iodine receptors in the thyroid and in the rest of the body. Cloride is also helpful in flushing out bromides from the body. Bromides are toxic to the body and will block the iodine receptors in the body.
www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html
www.naturalthyroidchoices.com
To suppress the thyroid antibodies, you need to take adequate iodine and Iodide -- at least 50-100mg. Iodoral is an easy and effective way to do it. Each tablet is 6.5mg of combined iodine and potassium iodide. Lugols iodine/iodine solution is another. Swanson's vitamins has both available. One drop of 2% lugols is about 3.5mg of iodine/iodide.
The iodine supplementation forum here on curezone is a really good site for more information on iodine.
Selenium is also important along with the iodine. At least 200mcg of selenomethionine is needed daily.
Another key in suppressing the thyroid antibodies may also going gluten free. A large portion of people with hashimotos also are gluten intolerant.
Have you had your vitamin D levels tested? Vitamin D is important for a healthy immune system. Optimal levels are 70-90 ng/ml.
I've done 14 liver/gb cleanses, passed many stones and then needed to decrease my thyroid to almost nothing. But I still have thyroid issues. And taking mms makes it worse. I haven't tried Lugol's yet. I'm excited because it could be the answer to helping the thyroid and continuing to be able to take mms. After 2 weeks on mms I am freeeezing cold and my mood is bad. 2 times I've tried. Here's what I learned from another forum - don't know if it's true but sounds true:
Chloride is an halogen with a lighter atomic weight than iodine. If you are not taking Iodine and are iodine deficient, the chloride can take up residence in the iodine receptors in the thyroid and in the rest of the body. Cloride is also helpful in flushing out bromides from the body. Bromides are toxic to the body and will block the iodine receptors in the body.
www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html
www.naturalthyroidchoices.com
To suppress the thyroid antibodies, you need to take adequate iodine and Iodide -- at least 50-100mg. Iodoral is an easy and effective way to do it. Each tablet is 6.5mg of combined iodine and potassium iodide. Lugols iodine/iodine solution is another. Swanson's vitamins has both available. One drop of 2% lugols is about 3.5mg of iodine/iodide.
The iodine supplementation forum here on curezone is a really good site for more information on iodine.
Selenium is also important along with the iodine. At least 200mcg of selenomethionine is needed daily.
Another key in suppressing the thyroid antibodies may also going gluten free. A large portion of people with hashimotos also are gluten intolerant.
Have you had your vitamin D levels tested? Vitamin D is important for a healthy immune system. Optimal levels are 70-90 ng/ml.
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With MMS you don't get the chlorite - you get the chlorine dioxide. If you are concerned that there may be a small bit of chlorite left when you activate the MMS, then you can take CDS, which is ONLY chlorine dioxide.
Guessing you might have to look somewhere else for your cold issues - Good luck!
Guessing you might have to look somewhere else for your cold issues - Good luck!
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