MMS & GALLBLADDER/LIVER CLEANSES TOGETHER????

Would agree with Michael, finish one protocol before you start another, what kind of liver cleanse do you plan to do anyway.........

Thanks......

Hi there ZnzMagic, I'm doing the cleanse I described above now. This is my 26th. What I got from Michael's post in this thread is that he would go and do them both together if it were him cause he's gusty. Since I like to do a cleanse every 2-3 months to stay clean, it needs to be found out if they can be done together. Tonight I flush. Will post back on this thread if I have success or not. I'm pretty sure I did read in J.H.'s recent book that MMS does clean out the liver/gallbladder and since I did indeed see stones the first week of MMS, that appears to be true. The question remains, does it get them good enough? Tonight's flush and the next one will reveal that answer for me. I'm currently on the protocol 4000 along with the MMS1 maintenance dose (M.D.) of 15 drops once a day. I stopped the 4000 only for this day (flush) and will resume it tomorrow, however, I have not stopped the M.D. at all. No problems so far.

Thanks so much for your comment.

I'm definately going to do a cleanse,I think it will be more beneficial than harmful,regardless of my health issues! I do have high ferritin, which indicates inflammation in the blood,which is fed by iron and I have very low iron,so my iron supplements are mainly feeding the inflammation,instead of raising my iron levels and ferritin is stored in the liver!Also,because of my low iron,i cant increase my thyroid meds,as they will pool in my blood if my iron is too low,so catch 22,hence the need for a cleanse,badly I think!

I already have permanent diarrhoea at the moment,even before MMS and think some of it could be caused by consuming coconut oil,which of course is a fat,which I need a healthy liver to "convert" and I am taking ox bile as I have no gallbladder.I take quite a few pills each day and need my liver to process them,even the supps,so I'm straining my liver even more!

Really dont know what to do about the apple juice though,as everything seems to put up my blood sugar levels at the moment,but that could also be a liver issue.And EVERYTHING I eat gives me pain in my back,even though I hardly eat anything and only eat tiny amounts of what I do eat!

I'm going to get the supplies needed and prep myself and need to convert the measurements,as I am in the UK and we dont use gallons etc;) I just ordered the book you suggested,but cant afford the little book of cleanses at the moment and I am definately going to try the different cleanses in the book!I did suggest that my husband try a cleanse and he said no,straight away! Dissapointed is putting it mildly,as he has many issues that would benefit a cleanse for sure:(Thankyou sooo much for your advice and input Mickey and cant wait to hear how your cleanse goes! Thankyou kindly.

best wishes sharon

The book by Andreas Moritz really gets into the nitty gritty of why we need to clean those organs and even visually diagnosing your body etc… On page 110, he does get into an area called, "People Who Should Not Use Apple Juice" and you may fit into that category. In such cases, he says to replace the apple juice with malic acid in capsule or powder form. The preparation period is the same, except that you'd take 1500-2000 mg. of malic acid with 2 glasses (1 liter) of warm water drinking this solution in small amounts throughout the day. Maybe once your husband reads it he will change his mind and join you on the cleanse. There are many ways of doing the cleanse. I personally have found the one from cleansing or surgery to be the shortest, easiest and most successful of the ones I've tried, at least for me.

I understand your excitement to get started but I think you would have much better success if you read the book by Moritz first because with understanding comes determination and will power to 'get er done!'

Wishing you much success!


After you've become an experienced 'flusher', you might want to try or recommend the one below.

Cleansing or Surgery (the book I always keep on hand in the kitchen)
www.cleansingorsurgery.com/cleansingorsurgery.htm

Here's their free instructions;
www.cleansingorsurgery.com/cleansingorsurgeryinfo.htm

Sharon,


My heart goes out for you. I totally agree with Mickey. Knowledge will be your weapon and tool to stay on the healing journey. I have very similar condition to yours; iron deficiency anemia, adrenal insufficiency and thyroid problem.

I didn’t know much about cleansing when I did my first two liver flush. I felt great the next morning and felt pretty sick for days. So I stopped the flush for a while. ( I did Dr. Clark’s then) Later, not only I found out Epsom salt could be very taxing to the adrenal gland, but also found out I should have done parasite/colon cleansing first. After I got those done, I only feel great after the flush.
I have also been doing coffee enema ( I try to do it daily) as one of preparation methods and as “clean up” after wards. I read one lady cured herself with CE along with life style changes. That’s why I started CE and boy I am glad I did. FYI, I am not taking any medication for my conditions.

I haven’t yet read “amazing liver and gall bladder flush” by Andrea Moritz ( I love to, sooner than later) but I read the other book of his. I really like his idea of healings and method. There are a lot of information out there, different prep work, different flush recipes but I think the book will save you a lot of time and effort, not to mention mistakes and sick feelings from them.
Good luck with your journey!
Hugs

Mickey,

I did my flush the other night. I couldn't wait any longer. My body was giving me all the signals that I was over due.
I am so glad I did. I have been feeling horrible nausea with only 0.5~1.5drops/hr.
Today I started with 1.5 drops through out the day and took several doses of 2 drop/hr in the evening, no nausea.
But I still feel very tired though...

I will try 3 drops tomorrow and hopefully can stay that way so that I can complete protocol 1000.

Thanks! Oh how did yours go??

Michael Harrah wrote: Mickey and Sue,

I don't have any personal experience with this, nor any word from Jim, or any testimonials from anyone else who has done it. But if I was considering a flush and proceeding with a protocol, I would keep doing the protocol.

I'm sort of gutsy by nature when it comes to health stuff, because I have been through so much and lived to tell about it. I don't know of any reason why you would need to interrupt your protocol to do a flush.

Watch and see what happens and if you feel you ought to stop the MMS, then you can.

Michael

Good advice and I concur Michael. All my advice to my patients on MMS has been the same and no ill affects.

@Sue - detox makes for feeling tired as the process saps energy. Good hydration with rest essential.

Yes,a definate read is what I need,as I havent heard of malic acid,but dont want to upset my diabetes with apple juice!

I would love to buy the booklet and try more flushes,but I cant afford it yet,as they want $14 to ship it!

I cant wait to flush and feel better,I really need it,will benefit from it,even if it makes me feel ill initially,but I feel ill anyway,so a bit more wont hurt.

My 19yr old daughter says she is willing to do a flush,but is worried about getting the immense pain I had when I done my first flush years ago.I told her I didnt prep for it,with apple juice etc,as I wasnt advised to and I had to drink epsom salts,which may not have agreed with me and certainly wasnt advised to rest on my side with pillows!

My husband? Well,thats a whole nother story!Lol! He is stubborn and would be dead in a few years if I hadnt have found out he has hypothyroidism an haemachromatosis amongst other things! I will keep trying,but dont hold out much hope with him.He would benefit immensely,especially as he's a karate and tai-chi instructor,so feeling fit is important,but you can lead a horse to water....

Best wishes sharon

Hi Sue,I too have heard that epsom salts are taxing on the adrenals,but on the adrenal forum I am a member of,they dont think you should do cleanses anyway,as they tax the adrenals,no matter what one you do.I think,your liver needs all the help it can get and a short disturbance to your adrenals is worth it in the long run,as my liver,I feel,is getting in the way of getting my other issues sorted.

I am able to eat less and less food and in very small amounts,as they can either increase my blood sugar levels,make me feel sick and definately make my liver/gallbladder area ache for hours! I also have constant diarrhoea which is not healthy.

When you are hypothyroid,goitrogen vegetables have to be cooked properly,as they can affect your thyroid function,but now I have found that I cant even eat them now as they make me feel unbelievably ill.I also cant eat salad now and egg whites make me heave,so only eat egg yolks! I am becoming increasingly sensitive to foods,its rediculous.

Its possible I have a sulphur/sulphite sensitivity and epsom salt is a sulphur,so I think I would be vomiting volumous amounts if I drank it now,but was actually prepared to,to feel better in the long run.

What is a parasite/colon cleanse?

I have heard of coffee enemas,even seen them in action on a detox programme years ago from a detox place in Thailand I believe. The stuff that they passed was incredible,even crayons and toys from childhood!

Thanks for your post Sue and well wishes,I appreciate it and from everyone,thankyou;)

best wishes sharon

Finished my 26th gallbladder/liver cleanse while continuing to stay on my protocol with the exception of 'the flush day'. On that day I only did 1dose of 15 drops of MMS1 but the following day (yesterday), I was right back completely on my full protocol. The reason I didn't do any MMS 4000 on the flush day is due to being uneasy with anything that might cause me to vomit since that night I drank the oil and lemon juice (water & oil comes right back up---YUK!) I've learned from a couple of past mistakes that I need to stop all food intake by around noon on flush day and also stop all fluids by 3PM. I always drink the oil & lemon juice around 7-8PM and go straight to bed for the night and relax and listen to my iPod alternative news shows . The flush was a success but not as many stones as I usually see and for the first time the ones I did see appeared almost liquified (spreading out a bit as they floated on the water) which I attribute to the MMS---all the flushes in the past, the stones were very soft but stayed together. With that said, I would have to conclude that the MMS did help with my stones. As stated earlier in this thread, stones were seen early on when I first started using MMS (Dec. 2011). I will be doing another one in about a month to see if these results are repeated or not.

I believe with each passing successful gallbladder/liver cleanse under one's belt, the negative side effects from MMS would be greatly minimized. Newbie's to this need to first be sure their colon is clean and open, then do a parasite cleanse, then move on to the gallbladder/liver cleanse and ALWAYS be sure you have a good bowel movement every single day if not 2-3 a day. Food that sits in the bowel too long putrefies, causes bad stuff to get reabsorbed by the body, feeds parasites, bad bacteria, bad yeasts, becomes difficult to pass and stinks real bad.

Sue, I'm so happy your flush was such a success! May you have many more as it is an on going work due to all the poisons the 'elite' subject us to.

If any of you experience an unsuccessful flush, please be encouraged to continue to try again, maybe with a different one as there are a bunch out there. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries to find the one that works for you and the one you personally can live with.

In hopes that my shared experience is of help to others---"To Your Health!"