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Activation question 20 Jun 2011 18:08 #3303

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I have a dilemma. My special needs child is allergic to all kinds of things. But the problem really is that everything that you say to use to activate the mms he is allergic too. He has a +3 yeast count and he is allergic to lemons , limes, pineapples, strawberries , just to name a few. The one thing he can have is oranges. I know that ya'll say not to use orange juice after it has been activated , but can you use freshly squeezed orange juice to activate the mms drops? If you have any other suggestions for activation I would so appreciate it. He also did not do well with the citric acid and vinegar for activation. Thanks for any help, Brenda.

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Re: Activation question 20 Jun 2011 19:07 #3306

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Welcome to the forum Brenda!

I grew up being allergic to everything so I know just what you are facing. Any kind of edible acid can be used for activation. Lactic acid would work and I've heard the Europeans use hydrochloric acid (swimming pool acid) for their MMS. I just wrote an email to Dr. Ron to see if he has advice on this, will let you know when he responds.

You can also reduce the amount of acid and just let it activate longer if that helps; once it becomes yellow like it is supposed to be, then you can drink it. Also you can try just using the MMS in water because stomach acid will activate it. Try that and see if it works. Jim said this worked 80% of the time before he started using acid to activate.

I do not think activating with fresh orange juice will work, you can try it and see if there are any benefits to observe. Maybe tomato juice would work. Think about foods that are acidic that he can have then try things. But I would try MMS in plain water first, it will probably work.

Please do let us know how it goes. I am sure others will face this problem so we need to find a solution. Thank you in advance.

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Re: Activation question 20 Jun 2011 20:22 #3307

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Would black cherry concentrate be acidic enough to use? We are so limited. What about apple juice? If I left it longer to activate? And how do you know it has activated long enough to do the job? Is it the smell that tells you it is ready? I would try the drops in water if he was taking it by mouth but I was going to try the protocol for sinus infection(cause that's what he has) and there would be nothing in his nose to make the drops activate.

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Re: Activation question 20 Jun 2011 22:06 #3308

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Hi Brenda,

You can still try just water and MMS for the sinus protocol. Often times there will be acidity with that congestion and the pathogens that are in it. The inflammation/irritation and pathogens all create acidity and that will activate the MMS to kill the pathogens and cleanse everything. I bet it will work pretty well. I would definitely try this before using the berry juice in the sinuses. Then go to that if you need to, it may work well, you never know till you try.

Berry juice is probably pretty acidic and maybe apple too, make sure there is no vitamin C (ascorbic acid or ascorbate) added to the juice. It will just take longer to activate, so wait 10 minutes.

You know there is activation by the yellow color, smell of chlorine and taste, like when you are using citric acid. The juice will make it hard to determine this, but maybe you can smell it and taste it.

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Re: Activation question 22 Jun 2011 00:31 #3332

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Hi Brenda,

This is still preliminary but I wanted to let you know right away. I bought some "Muriatic acid" (aka hydrochloric acid or HCl) for swimming pools at home depot and I diluted it twice with distilled water, 1 cup water and 1 cup acid, then 1 cup of that mix with 1 cup of water. So now it is a 25% solution of what I purchased.

I take 10 drops an hour of MMS1 with the DMSO added and this is working just fine with the HCl. If anything it can probably be diluted even more because it seems that activation is probably complete in about 5-10 seconds. But I am staying with this for now, it tastes MUCH BETTER than the citric acid. The citric acid was burning my throat, this is much more pleasant. I plan to switch from the citric acid and stay with this now that I see how much better it is.

I do not have the food allergies so much that I grew up with, but I do have a severe case of multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS). Fragrances and petrochemicals give me immediate problems. And this HCl is not bothering me so far.

I'll let you know if I run into any problems or find out more info.

Michael

PS: I purchased Kem-Tek brand "Muriatic Acid" (like this www.osh.com/eng/product/kem_tek_2x1_gal_pool_muriatic_acid/2821262) and it says 14.5% hydrogen chloride on the label. Also says POISON right on the front just like the pool shock warnings, but that is only if you drink it undiluted.

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Re: Activation question 22 Jun 2011 15:09 #3341

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I believed there is one more way that should work to activate MMS1...

Fill a non spill bottle with water then add MMS1 into it... maybe 3 drop will do for beginner and then keep the water in the fridge for one day or two... you will see the water become lightly yellow... if not seen much.. then add again more drops of MMS1 until you see the prefer yellowish... once you have succeed... record the prefer drops and time frame... from there you can have activated MMS1 without adding anything but just water....

I may try it too soon for those who had hard time with stomach problems with MMS1...

The reason to believed is that i had a ready activated MMS1 spray bottle ready at my fridge... but i notice my MMS1 getting stronger after keeping some time maybe weeks to months so the theory is come from this....

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Re: Activation question 22 Jun 2011 15:36 #3342

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Hi Edwin,

This is a good point you make about water activation. I have heard that water will activate MMS1 within 12-24 hours. I have not experimented with it myself. The water reduces the pH and that starts the activation process; acid just reduces the pH further which accelerates the process. It needs to be kept in a closed container or the chlorine dioxide escapes into the air over time. Keeping activated MMS in a closed container in the fridge is supposed to make it last longer as well.

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Re: Activation question 23 Jun 2011 21:39 #3372

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Michael, so your saying that your 25% solution is used the same way as the citric acid? That would mean 5 drops solution to 1 MMS? My son is unable to communicate verbally so needless to say alot of this is reading his body language. I do know that Jared's(son) breath was atrocious, his gums were swollen because of Dilantin , and he had a nail fungus. All those things cleared up when he was taking MMS. His breath turned literally sweet , even in the morning. But he was still getting sick. And we just could not figure out why. We did take Jared off the MMS for some time and found out through testing that Jared had multiple food allergies. And alot of these he was getting almost everyday. So we are starting back up again on the MMS. Thank you for your wisdom, Brenda.

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Re: Activation question 24 Jun 2011 00:09 #3375

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Hi Brenda,

It appears that you have the 10% citric acid solution which is mixed 5 drops of it to 1 drop of MMS, and allow 3 minutes for activation. Most of the citric acid being sold now is 50% citric acid and it is mixed 1 drop of it to 1 drop of MMS (1:1), and allow 20 seconds activation.

With the muriatic acid (HCl) that is available for swimming pools and says 14.5% hydrogen chloride on the label, you take 1 part of that right out of the bottle (be careful because it is a strong acid) and mix it with 4 parts water, so 1:4, which gives you a 20% solution of what you purchased. Earlier I was a using a 25% solution (1:3, one part acid to 3 parts water) but it does not need to be that strong.

So once you have your 1:4 (20%) muriatic acid solution, then mix it one drop of it to one drop of MMS (1:1) and allow 20 seconds activation. Therefore, this is a substitute for the 50% citric acid activator.

Muriatic acid (HCl) is much better than the citric acid. I have converted to it entirely. Dr. Ron says that the Europeans are using HCl to activate their MMS and now I can see why. I'll bet this will be much better for your son.

Again, I purchased 2 gals. of acid just like this www.osh.com/eng/product/kem_tek_2x1_gal_pool_muriatic_acid/2821262 .

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