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25 Jul 2012 17:06 - 20 Aug 2012 18:56 #20356 by Macaddict08
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Hey Guys,

Just following up here o na few things from posts a while back. Didn't know whether to make a new topic, or continue it here ... so... here goes ......

Scott:
Attached is a photo here of the Test Strip of your 'Fridge MMS' (testing it at Day#1 & Day #8)

I'd be curious to know what number you arrive at with the color …. cause then you'd times it by 20, right ?
Have a look:





Also ….. I realize my statement about the MMS in the tea possibly being deactivated was kinda dumb, considering that initially, we used to put the MMS in fruit juice, and there is even MORE pulp and food particles in that than there is in tea.

Michael:
I wanted to give you an update re the CDI (Chlorine Dioxide Injection)

I did 2 injections of 1ml each, and added some raw MMS (sodium Chlorite only) to the CDS to alkalize it … I injected the 1ml into the buttock, and I have to say, it was very painful. I injected both shots (am then pm) into the buttocks and the burning pain started almost immediately. I felt that I added enough MMS to make it alkaline, but it did still burn, and the pain lasted for about 90 minutes, then subsided. It's not for the feint of heart. I even had a thin gauge needle to enter the muscle tissue…. but no matter.






I know you said that adding saline water to the CDS would make it inert and not effective, but there has to be some other kind of liquid we can dilute the CDS with to make it not as concentrated. I was thinking about mixing the CDS with 2 ml of cyanocobalamin (B12), but was wondering if it might get deactivated in that too, as it did in the saline.

Interesting note though … about 5 minutes after I did both shots, my system seemed to go into an immune response, kind of reaction. Just a little. By that, I mean, I felt my sinuses open up a little, and I had a slight taste in my mouth, of what I can't quite say. I did feel good after it, (cept for the stinging :-) … but I have to say, it felt like I was shooting battery acid into my muscles, the burning was that bad … to where I couldn't walk for a bit after.


3 Week MMS Cleanse update:
We are both doing now the 3 drop dose of Scott's Fridge MMS AND adding to that 1ml (3 drops) of the CDS ... every hour, for 10 hours a day. So, 60 drops total a day each, and with no bad effects except sleepy sometimes. The first few days we were lethargic, and a little sleepy, but we seem to be ok at this point, and with almost no nausea and no diarrhea.

Our first dose is at about 5am (sometimes 6am) and we take 6 hourly doses and have a light lunch at 11am, and resume MMS dosing at 1pm …. ending at 4pm for the day.

At night we are drinking a rounded teaspoon of the Calcium Bentonite Clay (CBC) to keep the bowels strong, and to ensure proper elimination. We have been doing the clay for months now, and the detoxification pathways are open and ready for a 3 week MMS cleansing program. We normally take the clay 2 x's a day, but right now for this cleanse, only at night …. about 6 hours away from the MMS.

I don't know how other people feel, but for me, I think not having a breakfast, and being on an empty stomach for the 5am - 10am period, is probably THE best cleansing opportunity for the body … as there is no food for the MMS to interfere with. At 11am, when we have a lite lunch, we take another dose (MMS + CDS in tea) and there is still food in the stomach (for 4 hours) and I feel the MMS isn't as effective as the am period, simply because of the absorption interference with redial food. Would love to hear other's thoughts or comments on this, as I know we all have different rates of digestion.

We are even dosing miss Bijou, our Yorkie Terrier (10 ml of MMS Basic 1x a day) She's 12 years old. We notice her breath is a lot nicer. We dose her with Clay once a day too (8ml) She seems to gobble up the clay and the MMS no problem .... better than us Humans !!!


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25 Jul 2012 18:16 #20360 by pam
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We don't have the amount of unactivated MMS - Jim said only a few drops in the 1mL he used with Janice. I want to do it, too, for my arthritic fingers (I tell you, a bee sting took care of one finger completely), which are showing the effects of hours of gardening. But I think I'll wait until the actual protocol is announced. I'm chicken

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26 Jul 2012 00:42 #20378 by Michael Harrah
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Awesome report Clint!!!

Great pic of Bijou also! What a smart doggy.

Sounds like we need to do some work on the CDI to find out what will not be so painful. B12 is probably antioxidant. One of these days when I get a good pH meter I can get it to 5.2 pH and give it a try.

Looks like there was a little loss of potency over the 8 days with the 7 Day Fridge MMS but still pretty potent.

Thanks again, really excellent info,

Michael

I posted what I know about CDI here michaelharrah.us/Info-Sheets-Michael-Harrah/cdi-info-sheet.html , if anyone gets more info, let me know.
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26 Jul 2012 00:53 #20379 by Macaddict08
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Thanks Michael,

and yes, little Bijou is a Trooper ... better at handling the taste than I am, that's for sure.

If I didn't know better, I'd say the acidity alone is the reason the CDI is painful as it goes in ... it's SO concentrated. I think all we need to do is dilute it with something .... but what ?! Right ?

And yes... the MMS after 8 days might have a little less potency, but still.. it looks to be about the 4-5,000ppm range, no ?

Right now, we are at 105 drops a day (for 10 hours) that is, each dose is:

3ml MMS = 4 Drops (Scott's Fridge) + 2ml CDS, 6 drops x 10 = 105 Drops a day ....... - mixed in 4oz of tea

Not sure we can make it 3 weeks, but we are going to give it the ole college try !!!

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26 Jul 2012 00:55 #20380 by Truthquester
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Hi Clint,

First a BIG THANKS for following through with this, and testing and taking the pics as you have - I really appreciate it and I believe it's very helpful for us all.

About the pics of day 1 and day 8; it looks to me that day 8 is a little darker than day 1. If it is, that would mean that the mixture has indeed continued to activate while in the fridge and generate more clo2. If that's true, which it appears to be, then that means there still was "raw" (unactivated) mms in the mix when you put it in the fridge on day 1.

I have a couple of questions. Was your day 1 pic taken right after you made the whole batch in the evening, or was that day 1 pic taken the next morning after the whole batch had a chance to set over night?

Also, when the day 8 pic was taken, was there just one last 20ml serving left in the bottle? The reason why I ask is because I have noticed, as you probably have too, that every morning, when I pour out my 20ml to make my daily bottle, there is quite a bit of clo2 gas in the bottle, above the liquid, and of course some of that comes out each time I've poured out my 20ml, so some of the clo2 was thus lost into the air. If this day 8 pic of yours was of the last 20ml amount in the bottle, and it still came out that dark, then I would say that there really is quite a fair amount of continued activation of "raw" mms still happening. For me, this is important, because one of the main issues that I'm hoping this method will overcome, is the nausea problem/phenomena that so many people experience with mms but don't experience with cds - which doesn't have any "raw" mms in it at all. If, by fully activating the mms that we are ingesting, we can almost completely overcome the nausea problem, then that's a huge thing for so many people who either won't take mms or stop taking it because of getting so sick to the stomach.

So if you would Clint, please let me.

Thanks again,
Scott

I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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26 Jul 2012 01:00 #20381 by Truthquester
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One more thing.

Were you opening the bottle every hour and taking out the 2.5ml to put into your tea? If so, that's even more opportunity for the clo2 to leak out which would effect the end clo2 test on day 8.

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I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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26 Jul 2012 02:30 #20395 by Macaddict08
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Excellent questions Scott !! and thank you !!!

.. and I do see your point re the CDS gas escaping every time you open the bottle. I did think of that.... and what I did was keep the 8oz glass bottle of theMMS I originally mixed it in, in the fridge ... and every few days, I'd put the MMS in a secondary bottle (4oz) that I'd use for each dose. So, the main bottle would only get opened about 2-3 times. and would last about 4-5 days (as there are two of doing this, at very high doses per hour)

And, in thinking back, I DID let the day#1 batch go overnight, and THEN tested the ppm's. I tried to follow your instructions to the letter.

I was also thinking too that for my next batch, I was going to add10 drops extra of the raw MMS to the mix after it's activated, and then put it in the fridge .... so that there will be raw sodium chlorite that might get activated in the body at a later time, as a 1-2 punch ( right Michael ?!?! ;-)

I think to makes sense to add the HOT water to the mix for heat activation, and as a buffer too (I'm assuming here) cause my girlfriend and I have had no Herx or Diarrhea in the 9 days we've bee in this. Weird thing is, we're taking about 10 drops EACH dose (your MMS + the CDS) and the only thing that's happening is we are getting more repulsed at the taste. We hold our nose during and after (for 15 seconds) ... and it gets us by.

My thought was Scott, that by mixing it fresh each time, we'd be getting a stronger mix as opposed to letting it sit all day, and possible ending up with a weak mix at the end of the day.... I may be wrong here, but.

What I may do, is just make a fresh bottle like I have been doing, and use it for test purposes ONLY, not opening it up at all til the 7th day, then test it for PPM.
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26 Jul 2012 17:16 #20423 by Truthquester
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Hi Clint,

Michael had said that day 8 looked a little lighter on the test strips but to me it looked a little darker. What do you think since you saw the actual strip, while we just saw the photos you took?

About the idea of adding an additional 10 drops of raw mms to the mix after it's been activated, for me anyway, I wouldn't do it because, as I've been stating, I think it's the ingestion of the raw mms that makes people sick. Now if you added it to the mix, after activation, there may still be enough "live" citric acid available to continue activating that raw mms that you are thinking to add. Actually, that's what I think would happen, and then what you would end up with is just a mix with an even higher ppm of clo2. You could test that theory of course, with your test strips.

Regarding the bad taste. I looked back at your previous post where you say you are mixing the 2.5ml of the 7 day fridge mix with about 3 oz of your tea. What I do is mix mine with about 4 oz of pre-made fairly sweet tea (the Sosro brand) and then I add another 4 oz of water to that, so I'm almost using 3 times more liquid than you are, and I really don't taste the mms at all. (I know you are also adding the cds to it too, so you have more to mask but I still think that if you added more liquid, it would help).

Regarding giving yourself a shot in the but - you're my hero!!! ;)
Sorry it caused you so much pain, but it's good to know that it can be done. I have thought that if I needed to use cds for some life threatening reason, I would do it via an IV and add it to a saline solution dripped into a vein over an hour lets say. Maybe 1ml added to 500ml saline solution, dripped over an hour period - and then increased slowly over time to 2 and 3ml if there were no adverse side effects. You had mentioned though that Michael had said adding it to saline solution or saline water would neutralize the cds??? I know Andreas originally made the first cds by infusing the clo2 into saline solution and then injecting that into the cattle that he was treating. So I don't understand what you mentioned to Michael about this.

Well thanks again, and by the way, why are you and your girlfriend doing this intense regime that you're doing? (if you prefer not to say I understand)

Take care,
Scott

I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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26 Jul 2012 17:25 #20424 by Truthquester
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One more thing (again).

If you don't mind and if you can next time, please test the mix right after making it. This would let us know what the ppm are right after making it and then we would be able to compare it with what the ppm are the next morning. By doing this we would be able to see if it continued to get stronger overnight or not.

Thanks again,
Scott

I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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26 Jul 2012 18:20 - 26 Jul 2012 19:35 #20426 by Macaddict08
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Michael had said that day 8 looked a little lighter on the test strips but to me it looked a little darker. What do you think since you saw the actual strip, while we just saw the photos you took?
Actually Scott, I had the strip with me at the computer, as I was laying it out in Photoshop, and kept looking at it to make sure what I saw in my hand, was the same that was being shown on screen. I know "lighting is everything", but what you see on the screen is pretty accurate. So, if it was me.... I might say that they look about the same, just that the strip on the left seems to absorb more of the flash, and looks lit up a little, but still the same color tone (my opinion).

About the idea of adding an additional 10 drops of raw mms to the mix after it's been activated, for me anyway, I wouldn't do it because, as I've been stating, I think it's the ingestion of the raw mms that makes people sick. Now if you added it to the mix, after activation, there may still be enough "live" citric acid available to continue activating that raw mms that you are thinking to add. Actually, that's what I think would happen, and then what you would end up with is just a mix with an even higher ppm of clo2. You could test that theory of course, with your test strips.
I hear what you're saying Scott, and thanks for the advice.... wouldn't want to get any woozier than we already are, that's for sure. I think for now, I might stick with the same strength MMS and add a little more CDS. We already are getting high doses each time (as high as 10 drops an hour at times combined)

Regarding the bad taste. I looked back at your previous post where you say you are mixing the 2.5ml of the 7 day fridge mix with about 3 oz of your tea. What I do is mix mine with about 4 oz of pre-made fairly sweet tea (the Sosro brand) and then I add another 4 oz of water to that, so I'm almost using 3 times more liquid than you are, and I really don't taste the mms at all. (I know you are also adding the cds to it too, so you have more to mask but I still think that if you added more liquid, it would help).
I think the reason e are drinking less in volume, is because we feel SO water logged as it is, that more liquid at each drinking might be more torture.... but, I will dilute it more, that makes sense. I might just make the teas stronger too, so they can mask the taste.

Regarding giving yourself a shot in the but - you're my hero!!!
*blush*
I've been doing IV's on myself now for about 10 years, and did numerous Chelation treatments in the past, as well as Vitamin cocktails. I have a Chiropractor friend who supplies me with the needles, tubing, bags, DMSO, etc.... and it was easy to do for myself, instead of always driving to his office.


Sorry it caused you so much pain, but it's good to know that it can be done. I have thought that if I needed to use cds for some life threatening reason, I would do it via an IV and add it to a saline solution dripped into a vein over an hour lets say. Maybe 1ml added to 500ml saline solution, dripped over an hour period - and then increased slowly over time to 2 and 3ml if there were no adverse side effects. You had mentioned though that Michael had said adding it to saline solution or saline water would neutralize the cds??? I know Andreas originally made the first cds by infusing the clo2 into saline solution and then injecting that into the cattle that he was treating. So I don't understand what you mentioned to Michael about this.
I was thinking that the reason the IM injection was causing pain, was that I just realized that my CDS is at least 5,000ppm, and that might be a little too strong for injections. I may need to dilute it more with either distilled water or saline, THEN try injecting it. I think the vein might be an easier way to go as well, and might be less of a sting. I told Michael that I might be experimenting with the Saline bags, and just using the water in them to dilute the CDS, THEN suck it up in a syringe and shoot into the muscle. Michael had mentioned that Andreas told him that Baking Soda neutralized the CDS, but I thought when I talked to Michael a few weeks back, he said on the phone that it was saline .... I was just confused.

So, I have a few choices... I can make the CDS not as concentrated, and shoot MORE in....or.... just dilute it with the saline solution. Either way, I wast to test the PPM's first before I start injecting. I do have the tubing to use for a IV drip.... but that just takes to long, and wastes a whole bunch of equipment. I might also do a IV Push with a 60ml syring hooked directly up to the needle into the vein.

In the photo here, I'm doing a DMSO (3ml) push with Saline water, but, this would be the CDS Push (if you will) It's a lot quicker than letting a 250ml bag drip for 2 hours. But this might be the way to go... I'll let you know.





Well thanks again, and by the way, why are you and your girlfriend doing this intense regime that you're doing? (if you prefer not to say I understand)
Not at all... My girlfriend has never done a MMS protocol for a duration, and I was due to do one, so... we decided when the warmer days came, we'd do a 3 week cleanse. I decided a 10 hour day dose, and thought by mixing the CDS with the MMS would be a good way to go. So, we are just doing a general cleanse is all.

My girlfriend also has Raynaud's disease (cold hands and feet) which is said to be caused by heavy metals ... so I am giving her MMS 2 every few days as well (not that it calls for it, but she seems to be able to do a 1/4 capsule ok. I am aslo drinking DMSO (1 teaspoon a day) to help better absorb the clo2 into the tissues.

Thanks again for the advice Scott, and will keep you posted.
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