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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 18:58 #21935

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WAY TO GO CALVIN!!!!! You little fighter !!!


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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 19:05 #21936

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My tears are rolling out of joy. What awesome news and I applaud you for sticking with him and not giving up on Clavin and MMS/CDS. This is such a break though. yippppppeeeeeee

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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 19:11 #21937

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Im Going to miss out loads of information and get to the important bit....

IT WORKS!!!

Calvin is up and about now, Im so, so pleased. After just one day and four injections the farmer contacted me to say calvin seemed better. When I visited him he tried to stand on his own and had his back legs up but was resting the weight on his front legs on his wrists. The second day I let him down and only gave him three injections but on this day he stood fully on all legs properly and tried to move around but didnt manage it very well. Today is the third day and there is no stopping him, he takes his food standing up and isnt running but is VERY mobile.

I'm exstatic, im so proud of his progress.

I cant thank you all enough for the support you have given, its really helped me so much.

When I have collected myself I will go back to read what I have written and fill in the gaps.

I feel like I have really turned a corner, like we all have. To be able to inject CDS into Calvin when orally just will not do, and to see such amazing results so quickly where ALL else had failed. They had tried every antibiotic out there and gave him a 20% chance of survival.

IM SO HAPPY :)

I will be back soon to clear things up but had to tell you all what an amazing miracle i have witnessed over these last three days




Yeah !!!!!!!

I bet you think the sore butt was worth it !!

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Congratulations!!

The world is a different place because of you!!
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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 19:24 #21938

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Praise God for you and CDS! That is one little calf with a new lease on life and one happy farmer!

Am looking forward to detailed instruction on makeing the CDS for injection and the giving of the injections!

Calvin looks comfy in his blanky! :)

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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 19:51 #21940

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Thank you all so much for your wonderful words, they mean so much to me.

I am going to work on uploading my pictures of calvin this evening, they need shrinking. You can see how bad some of his sores are then and I can show you all of the bits and pieces I used to make this work.

The blanket Horsefeathers is to keep the flies away, I hadnt seen Fourfingerz comment on using MMS instead of CDS as a repellent. It broke my heart today to find his sore spots weeping with blood from a thousand fly bites. I spray his sore hairless patches with CDS and it keeps them lovely and clean, they seem to heal very quickly and look really well considering how bad they are. My point is I leave him with them looking as good as they can and when I returned two hours later there are hundreds of bloody puncture marks all over the patches literally dripping in blood.

I couldnt stand it and I bet he felt the same so I covered him with an old (clean) towel ands sat with him for half hour to see if it helped. It worked very well and he still had it on him when I came back later.

Its so nice to see him standing and walking over asking for milk. Iv been feeding him loads, he needs to put weight on now.

As he is the pilot calf who tried the first CDS injections (by me) I wont let him get sold, me and the farmer have more than enough land between us that he can graze. I will make sure he retires with me when the time comes, I know I cant keep adopting animals (can I.... :whistle: )
but trust me calvin isnt going to the usual place male dairy calfs end up.
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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 26 Aug 2012 23:51 #21952

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I am so pleased that Calvin has a bright future - I wasn't looking forward to the next bit of the story.

Update on the MMS fly spray is that it isn't completely effective. We are now going to a spray of the hideous chemical spray and then MMS spray. Too bad. Your towel is working great - and if you read / watched The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy - a person should keep his towel with him at all times. Douglas Adams was brilliant - if you haven't experienced him (might be just my generation) - do so!!





The results from the CDI are truly amazing . I will investigate dart guns ( although I bet I can't afford one. I just can't get into forcible treatment (rope - hog tie - inject) that ranchers would do to an adult cow.

I actually have been to Wales - a day trip to Abergavenny ~1970. In the 1960's there was a pop song "Taking a trip up to Abergavenny" - so when I was in England - I took a trip up - that's all I can remember.
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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 27 Aug 2012 19:01 #22001

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Hey guys

I have had a bit of a rubbish day today! I handled it as well as I could but it it really made me feel crappy!

I was so pleased yesterday with Calvin, the farmer was pleased and his wife was there, pleased but skeptical. She is a wonderful woman I get on well with her, she teaches science at high school when not helping out on the farm, her family moved over from south Africa some years ago. She asked me exactly what I had given the calf and was interested in what I told her. I know a fair about Chlorine Dioxide and have met PLENTY of resistance from people in the past and so am relatively careful in my explanations, not running before I can walk and scaring people away. She understands science and chemistry and has friends that are involved in researching medicines as well as working in hospitals in Africa, I thought she would be the ideal person to convince. We had a little chat and the next day when I returned to see Calvin I spoke to her again. I had previously mentioned work with HIV/AIDS patients in Africa and I think this is where I lost her. As she lived in South Africa previously she knows too well how many people are suffering with this problem and she said that if the Chlorine Dioxide could help then it would already be in use, I told her it was and it is in use but couldn't convince her of it. She said there must be bad side effects or it would be used as HIV is such a huge problem over there. She had spoken to a friend of hers in the research field and they had said they would look into it but it didnt sound right.

She was very nice the whole time but couldn't seem to seperate between Chlorine and Chlorine Dioxide. I told her they act VERY differently but couldn't convince her, she was quite convinced that it was acting as a bleach inside the body. she had read reports of dehydration and then the farmer got the idea that maybe the calf was so dehydrated due to my bleach injection! (it was already dehydrated before I started seeing it, and he had told me this was due to diarrhea, very annoying for him to conveniently forget this now!)

The farmers wife butted in to say it wasn't ACTUAL bleach but was acting like it in the body as it was essentially chlorine. she said oral doses small enough would just be rejected by the body but I should be very careful injecting. (she was convinced it would not get into blood if taken orally)

I am used to this but wasn't used to her very specific questions regarding how it interacted with red and white blood cells. I knew parts of the answers but had to do a lot of research this afternoon to get everything straight. I have supplied this to her on a memory stick and have included some excellent reports, she was happy to receive these.

I asked if they wanted me to stop and they both said it was ok to continue, the farmer told me it was my own time I was wasting and she said I wouldn't have been allowed if it was a girl but as it was male they didn't mind.

I was told they couldnt prove either way it the injections had helped as the cow had received so many antibiotics in the past, cows go up and down all the time they said.

They are both very busy people and this problem with Calvin only got so bad due to them not noticing until it was too late. He really is emaciated and was in a real bad way before I started giving him CDS orally.

I know that I cannot convince them but as I spent such a vast amount of time with him I know for sure it was the MMS that has brought him back on the right track. To start with the skin on his neck was tenting when pinched and there was a gap between his eyeballs and eyelids, there is no tenting now it snaps right back and no gap between eye and eyelid either :) It has been such a rapid improvement since giving the injections I just wanted to laugh out loud and say 'ARE YOU SERIOUS!' when the farmers say they think im wasting my time. I said I almost wanted to stop giving him the injections so he got sick again and then start again to PROVE them wrong when he again got well! (I WOULD NEVER DO THIS, EVER)

sorry for rambling its been winding me up all day! I know in my heart the truth, i spent so much time with him and that's all that matters, that he is ok.

I would inject myself or my other dog Roofus in the blink of an eye if orally didnt work, I wont let there skepticism cloud the results I know have been achieved here, I think I just built myself up with the idea that so many poorly animals could be helped with something so safe and straight away I have AMAZING results and STILL skepticism.

I am still hopefull that the info I provided will help convince the farmers wife, if I can convince her he will follow suite!









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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 27 Aug 2012 19:26 #22002

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I'm so sorry you're going through this. Science used to be a great methodology for gaining a better understand of physical reality. It has become perverted into religion , with many devotees unwilling to investigate because "that is impossible". I would lay odds that you will never be able to convince her - even when Calvin is fully healthy - "it was because of the antibiotics". "there are none so blind as those who will not see"

Just focus on Calvin.

Take care.
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Re: CDS, Injections and Dairy Cows 27 Aug 2012 19:43 #22003

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Thanks Fourfingerz, I was just extra gutted as I'd put so much work in, REALLY wanted to get the farm on side! she is very much convinced that big pharma would make use of Chlorine Dioxide if it actually worked! It is a shame but im done wasting time on people so, so asleep. It still won't stop me helping the sick and trying again next time to explain things :) Calvin still has all of my attention.

By the way, I keep meaning to watch Hitchhikers guide, my stepdad LOVES it. Thanks for the link :)
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