STLittle wrote:

This is so great!
Im going to try and make some tonight.
Does anyone know if this solution will clash with vitamine c like the old stuff?

Ooh! Good question. I've always wondered about sodium ascorbate - as opposed to ascorbic acid. I'm not sure how that reaction plays out...sounds like an experiment!! I LOVE experiments!!

Steve wrote:

Ok, Here's what I got done today.
I made my CDS Generator.

The result was over 500 ppm in 5 minutes.

The 3rd run was with 5% NaClO2 and 6.25% HCl. This gave me 150 ppm ClO2 in 10 minutes.

It seems that in the long run, while not the fastest method, the 5% seems to be the most efficient. 1/4 the actual NaClO2 content returned over 1/2 the amount on ClO2 as the MMS and citric acid. I'll be playing with this a few days, and I will try to get Some one on the Island to give me an idea of what the ppm range should be.

Holy crap this is professional looking stuff! how could someone like myself build this and where could I get the parts? ebay?
I know a guy who made some using plastic bottles in a kitchen sink. he said it took about 15 minutes to make.

This is so great!
Im going to try and make some tonight.
Does anyone know if this solution will clash with vitamine c like the old stuff?

Forgot to mention that the plastic lid from bottled water fits a Perrier bottle perfectly!

Ah! Didn't realize I could "edit"!

I also forgot to mention that I cut up old socks to stretch over canning jars to keep light out. And, of course, I also have one particular jar that I use for H2O2 that is wrapped in - you guessed it - that silly self-sealing silicone tape. So, basically, it's rubber coated glass! That tape stuff is almost as cool as MMS!! And you don't have to get that expensive "Rescue Tape" stuff, you can get plain black self-sealing silicone tape just about any place they sell plumbing stuff!! Even Walmart - though it's often sold out there. Total light blockage!

Hello! I'm new to the forum but not to MMS. I've been using MMS1 for - I don't know - a couple of years, I guess. I use it for everything from stinky stuff to scary toxic stuff! The CDS-making process is VERY exciting!! I have always kept MMS1 solution in a sealed Perrier bottle for a couple of days as I use it to brush my teeth and gargle.

Can't WAIT to get the CDS process going. I bought some small bottles for distributing the two part formula among friends and family and I just bought a bag of the little suckers!! LOL! I guess I can pass them around with CDS in them, instead. They're pretty small though...

I read of some concern regarding using plastic in the process but I always just figured that the MMS would simply take care of any toxins that might leech out of plastic. I don't know that this is true, but I soak my cheapo plastic storage containers anyway and food seems to stay fresher in them. Again, I could be imagining that as I am just over the moon about MMS' qualities. I've always had it in my head that if it's yellow and/or I can smell it, then it's "busy" blowing up bad guys. LOL!

I'll probably use wide mouth canning jars with plastic lids and drilled holes, plastic tubing - probably a small hole for an orphaned glass dropper piece I found, for venting. I also use a lot of that self-sealing silicone tape so I'll probably try that to make little baby gaskets for the tubing (just because that tape is so dang cool!). I haven't used MMS with silicone or rubber before so I'll probably test that a bit, first. I've used just about every kind of little plastic thing you can imagine, for holding little two or three drop MMS1 puddles for gassing stuff, but nothing rubber.

Here's a tip: Save a plastic jar and lid (like face cream comes in) drill holes all over it and you can activate 2 or 3 drops of MMS, dip a tiny piece of fabric in it, stick it in the jar, put the holey lid on it and toss it in a trash bag with your pillows! Tie off the bag and smoosh the pillow and bag a few times then let it sit until it's spent and your pillows out smelling like...well...nothing! Fresh as a daisy!!! WAY cool!

I probably sound like a germaphobe but I'm not. I just love how MMS does its thing! Especially on odors as, I have a rather exaggerated sense of smell.

Anyway, can't wait to try the CDS setup!! VERY exciting!!!

Steve,

I am neither a chemist nor a teacher. I only like understanding things thoroughly.

By reading your message I simply didn't understand where the "nascent O2, and some elemental chlorine" were coming from.

Never mind and thank you anyway.

Alanti

Hello Steve.

You write: "In an earlier post NewIdea asked why we would use HCL, why not just let it blow off in the gut.
The reaction between the strength of the acid in your stomach, and the NaClO2 will blow off some ClO2, some Nascent O2, and some elemental chlorine".

Being the complete reaction
5NaClO2 + 4HCl = 4ClO2 + 5NaCl + 2H2O
I imagine you are referring to some intermediate stage before completion.
Could you kindly elaborate?
Thank you.
Alanti

From what I understand 2 hours either way should be okay.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT Regarding CDS as compared to MMS

1/ (CDS) Instead of venting the excess gas into the air why not run a second tube into a water solution to absorb all the gas?

2/ If the gas is released at temperatures above 11c then when it enters the body wouldn't the gas immediately come out of the solution in the stomach? Chlorine dioxide gas in the solution may just get burped out of the stomach after it frees itself from the solution.

3/ With MMS wouldn't it stay in solution until it encounters a pathogen? Wouldn't this be better?

4/ So based on what we know now putting either solution into a warm drink may not be a good idea.

Hello Steve,
I can understand that it is quite easy to estimate the ppm of the ClO2 even if the operation is carried out at home.
But estimating it is not the same as measuring.
Could you kindly explain how you performed the measurement of the ppm of ClO2 in the CDS you produced?
Thank you.
Alanti

pam wrote:

NewIdea, please take your "fight" off-forum - go to PM if you prefer. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to do. and it's beneath you, too.

Sorry Pam,
No fight here. Just the truth. MMS sellers are the front line of the church. If we didn't make it available there would be no cures. I was just trying to help and was called spammy. I have contacted the admin and asked to have my membership removed.

I'm gone.

Oh I just had one more thought. if the guys on this forum are using HCL to activate sodium chlorite... Well, why not skip the whole activation process and just add a few drops of sodium chlorite to a glass of water and drink that ... letting the strong HCL in the stomach do the activating. I've been doing it for years and it works great. No bad taste and no nausea. Just sayin... Stabilized Oxygen.

NewIdea, please take your "fight" off-forum - go to PM if you prefer. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to do. and it's beneath you, too.

Steve wrote:

Ok, Here's what I got done today.
I made my CDS Generator.

The 3rd chamber contains a chemical called sodium thiosulfite. It neutralizes ClO2.
The vented gas at the end of the run has very little chlorine smell, and even after 5 runs remained clear.

My first run was with MMS and 50% Citric Acid.... 50 drops of each.
The forced air method with a cold mix did not have the thick gas cloud.
I got about 250 ppm in 10 minutes.


Then I used 1 gram of Sodium Chlorite Flake and enough 6.25% HCl to cover it.
I had a nice yellow mixture in 1 minute

The result was over 500 ppm in 5 minutes.

The 3rd run was with 5% NaClO2 and 6.25% HCl. This gave me 150 ppm ClO2 in 10 minutes.

It seems that in the long run, while not the fastest method, the 5% seems to be the most efficient. 1/4 the actual NaClO2 content returned over 1/2 the amount on ClO2 as the MMS and citric acid. I'll be playing with this a few days, and I will try to get Some one on the Island to give me an idea of what the ppm range should be.

Steve,
One little spark from that pump or a stray static spark and that whole thing will blow up in your face...

Amen Steve

Edwin3110 wrote:

I can confirm to you it will not.... i have keep it in fridge for about a week now and is still great....

Would you then say that I don't have to worry about separating my bicarbonate injections from the mms?.. This would make everything a bit easier if so.

Another thought...

I have breastcancer and I afraid to gamble with the treatments.. can I really count on the effect to be the same if not stronger from this new method?

And also, can I use normal water, since I have trouble finding distilled water in this area where I live.

Thanks alot

kwag wrote:

Hi Steve,

What pump is that?
Is it a fish tank type pump?

Thanks,
-Karl

Yes is fish pump, find the weakest one or the cheapest one... you do not need too much power....

Steve wrote:

Your posts are spammy.... there is no substance to them, except to point them to your products.
The post on the suppliers list was adequate for that.

Ok, Steve. So what does your picture of the complicated bent glass tubing and air pump setup do for those less "talented" than you? What about those people who don't have the facilities to hot bend glass and want to make CD solution? You have over complicated the process and seem to be bragging about it. What have you done to help anybody? All you have done is show off. Humble is all about helping people and you have done nothing to that effect.

I can confirm to you it will not.... i have keep it in fridge for about a week now and is still great....

About the air pump... choose one with the lowest production power and only on it when the gas begin to become weak... so that not too much volatility or the pressure begin to weakens.....