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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 30 Jun 2023 04:27 #79224

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Very interesting, JTF, thank you! Where can I read more about this? Is there a particular doctor or website or something where I could do a deep dive?

How depressing to see the state of the modern food system - miserable chickens fed unnatural diets, rancid oils and falsified labels. No wonder the populace is so sick!

Is there any way to tell if your avocado oil is rancid??

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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 30 Jun 2023 21:54 #79229

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Fruit feeds Candida. Stop eating it. Use the antifungal diet, take activated charcoal and you won't get herpes again. Do not eat carbs at all. Eat meat and green vegetables. Take one drop of MMS two hours before food.

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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 03 Jul 2023 12:39 #79244

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The best place to start is with the low Candida diet. There are a lot of doctors that discuss not only the anecdotal benefits of switching to a low or no carb lifestyle but they also step through the science. There is a big range of how people interpret low carb, keto etc. When dealing with Candida overgrowth it's best to get as close to zero carbs as possible. Keto, as defined by most doctors that also practice it, is usually no more than 20 total carbs. That leaves very little room so vegetables such as cauliflower, cabbage, summer squash and a few others are what falls into the acceptable range. Many who find themselves having to pursue the keto way of eating also learn they have a reaction to oxalates as well which further reduces the list of acceptable vegetables. There are a few individuals, I haven't stumbled upon a doctor yet, that are eating a vegan keto diet. In what I know, it's impossible to be a vegan eating a ketogenic diet and to also be low oxalate.

I know several on this forum champion the vegan lifestyle, I do not. I was a vegan three decades ago, worked at a health food store alongside PHD nutritionists, and know first hand that supplementation does not offset the mineral depletion. Can it work for someone who is very ill or overweight, yes. The problem is that after 2-3 years the nutrient and mineral depletion in the body will start to manifest. If left uncorrected, it will result in permanent damage to the endocrine system. Humans are not ruminants and our cecum (appendix) is miniscule, in most it no longer functions. We evolved to thrive on fat but we can, in a situation of starvation, utilize carbohydrates to get an immediate boost of energy to obtain a nutritionally rich (and bio available) food source. I could bore you with the science such as, cow's live on 70% fatty acids that are produced by the bacteria that breaks down cellulose and 30% protein from the bacteria that naturally dies off. Nutritionally they are a carnivore (70/30) even though they consume cellulose, ruminants have an amazing digestive system. While technically peas have a decent amount of protein, it is not very bioavailable to humans. A proper diet does not need supplementation (iodine being the exception which everyone should be taking regardless of food choices) and should never have one in a state where they have to eat every few hours before they start having side effects. This is true for the entire animal kingdom. If a storm is rolling through, squirrels will hunker down for the duration. They are not shaking, melting down, lethargic etc... once the storm passes they will emerge and go about doing squirrel things. We are all designed to miss meals when it is essential for survival.

As for avocado oil, I have never searched for a lab that publishes oil testing results. If I feel a need I just eat a ripe avocado, ripe avocados have a very low oxalate amount but unripe are high. Coconut oil seems to be mostly unadulterated so it's still a great non animal source of fat. There is debate on palm oil and I can personally attest to palm fields being the number one product that is replacing the rain forests in the Americas...sorry folks, it's not cows.

Just to drive the point home on fat. All of our hormones are derived from fat. Fat and protein are essential macro nutrients for humans, there is no carbohydrate requirement. Many of us have an exhausted endocrine system, the only solution is to eat a high saturated fat diet to fuel our hormones. Animal protein is where our body gets it's nutrients, just like wolves, lions, alligators etc. We have overcomplicated something very simple and then have implemented detrimental farming practices. Ruminants are the answer. Not only will they provide all of the nutrition and fat we need, they will heal the land we have abused for at least a century. Most, if not all, of us here knows the FDA lies about Sodium Chlorite...why would one believe what they recommend as a diet.

Here are a couple quotes from a case against the FDA. In their arguments the FDA stated:
"There is No Absolute Right to Consume or Feed Children Any Particular Food"
"There is No Generalized Right to Bodily and Physical Health"
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 10 Jul 2023 00:15 #79318

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That's good.

"Baby Steps".

It took me a few years to "Go Vegetarian" after I started thinking about it and educating myself and becoming aware,
and then several years to "Go Vegan". (I'm mostly an Ethical Veg[etari]an, and Environmental, and then Health)

It's a process.

Everyone's different, and at different levels, and all that.

And like most things, there is a lot to absorb and think about.

I hope you increasingly feel better.
 
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EVERY SINGLE 'well known' "Low/No Carbs / High Protein (animal flesh)" FAD diet creator / book writer
has died due to cancer, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc., and eventually gets very poor health before they die.
(with one, his wife refused to get an autopsy, imo because she didn't want to ruin his reputation
and/or her continued income from book sales)

It is a COMPLETELY UNNATURAL way for the Human Animal to eat, because we are TRUE Herbivores,
by any decent description, definition, biology, physiology, etc....

It's like putting new Unleaded Gas in an older car -- they run great for a while, and then
the engine gets burned up and they die.
 
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 10 Jul 2023 01:08 #79324

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I was a strict organic vegan for 18 years because I got diverticulitis from eating raw processed meat everyday. I was sick all the time while vegan. I went back to eating meat and have never been sick since. I was never an animal loving hippie vegan and have found that such vegans are deluding themselves through their own propaganda and "ethics". We are not animals we are human beings created to eat meat. A well balanced organic diet is the only way to go.
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 10 Jul 2023 19:39 #79343

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"EVERY SINGLE 'well known' "Low/No Carbs / High Protein (animal flesh)" FAD diet creator / book writer
has died due to cancer, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc., and eventually gets very poor health before they die."

This is not true and has been pushed by the vegan community for some time. Just a little, and I mean a little, checking will show that car accident victims were included in the list of known meat eaters that died too early. Look into the death of Dr Adkins. Spoiler, he didn't have a heart attack as many believe.

As for the science, I already stated it above. We are not ruminants and our cecum is miniscule. The anatomy and physiology is clear, regardless if someone wants to believe it.
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 12 Jul 2023 06:38 #79359

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I posted the SCIENCE about why Humans are (obviously, and absolutely) TRUE Herbivores elsewhere.
('absolutely' WELL Beyond A Reasonable Doubt, and really Beyond A Shadow of A Doubt)

The human cecum is minuscule BECAUSE we are not ruminates, NOT because "we are not herbivores".
It has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
 
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 12 Jul 2023 08:33 #79364

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The vegan society sell a supplement containing vitamins B12, D3, iodine, selenium, B2, B6 and folic acid.
I would just trust the "science" and not supplement at all. We are natural born vegans after all.
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