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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 17 Jun 2023 18:49 #79028

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Hello, MMS'rs,

Couple of things I've noticed:

1) Since beginning treatment, I've noticed an annoying, clear, egg-white consistency mucus keeps collecting at the back of my throat - cant' swallow it down, can't spit it out. Wondering if it's biofilm, and how to get rid of it.

2) I'm on day 12 of treatment, and done with a 4-day mold protocol. I'm back on the hourly drops. On day 7 of treatment, I got an HSV outbreak on my lower back (same place it always shows up), that's not clearing. I thought the MMS would take care of it quickly, but no - not only did I GET the outbreak while on the drops, but it's quite itchy and persisting, despite internal and external MMS1 applications (with DMSO). I'm surprised and disappointed. Thoughts?

3) Yesterday, I had taken my 8 drops of MMS1 + DMSO, waited about 15-20 minutes, and then ate a meal of chicken, artichoke hearts and cucumber. I had been on this dose all day, with no pain, no problems. But then around 5:45pm (10 minutes after eating) I suddenly had a terrible stomach ache. I felt a bloating pressure in my stomach like a reaction was going on in there, thought I was going to throw up, and the pain came in waves (upper and lower stomach). The pain started about 10 minutes after eating, and was so bad, made me so nauseated, that I stopped taking drops, went to lay down and didn't eat again for the rest of the day. I did take a dose of clay in the evening, hoping it would ease my stomach symptoms, but it didn't.

I also noticed that I thought the artichoke hearts tasted kind of like chlorine to me, and I didn't really like them, which is unusual.
 
The only possible causes I can think of are that the DMSO somehow was taken too close to the food and I basically created a leaky-gut type thing

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the artichoke hearts were marinated in a mix of canola and olive oil, and maybe the canola oil created a larger reaction than normal, due in some way to the treatment. Maybe the biofilms are breaking up and the canola oil was more able to irritate the intestinal lining?

Today I'm going back on the protocol, but bumping down to 3 drops per hour + DMSO, and foregoing the DMSO on the dose before and after lunchtime.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks :)

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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 21 Jun 2023 06:44 #79072

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blue light... 460nm to 470nm... shown on herpes will almost instantly clear an HSV outbreak in combination with an oxidizer like MMS or hydrogen peroxide. I don't get outbreaks but I learned this when I got a staph infection. You can google blue light and staph infection to find where they found this out. If you keep googling you'll see that not only does it kill staph but people use it to head off herpes outbreaks. So I bought a 470 nm ultrafire flashlight and it worked like magic. Anytime I get a pimple or infection on my skin now I wash it, shine the light on it for two minutes, then pour some hydrogen peroxide on it and it just gets totally better like... within an hour. 

Also, from what I know about herpes, I'm not sure if you can use lysine, coconut oil, or olive leaf extract in combination with MMS (I'm new here) but that combo is supposed to kind of crush herpes. So, altogether that might ease the symptoms while you rid your body of it. Oh... also licorice root extract (glyzcyrrhizic acid) is supposed to help kill the latent virus. I learned all this studying viruses when covid hit. It seemed that everything that helped herpes also helped covid.

The throat thing... maybe silent acid reflux? I get something like that when I get nighttime acid reflux. If you're having GI bloating... that could cause GERD.  As to why you had that stomach issue... no clue. 






 
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 22 Jun 2023 20:16 #79121

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How much DMSO are you taking? (3 * 8 = 24 drops?)

As I mentioned in another post-reply, IF you are having a Mold & Fungus issue,
and that is preventing the MMS from working (well or at all), and the
Clay Protocol "fixes that", and then you "suddenly take 8 drops of MMS",
I would be surprised if that did not cause Herxing.

You might want to consider "Resetting" and starting at the beginning again.
(Startup Protocol, etc...)

I know you think you are "eating well", but I disagree.

Try the Potato Mono-Diet and see if that does anything good for you?
I can't see where it would not. See how much intestinal fortitude you
really have and can you stay on it for more than one or two weeks.

Or STOP eating Chicken (!) and eat a more plain diet, like white rice and
mashed potatoes (and other kinds, but NOT potatoes fried in oil, WITHOUT
all the crap people tend to put on and in them, like milk, cream, butter/margarine,
Sour Cream, Bacon, Cheese, etc...) with as little (or NO) Oils as possible.
And some simple (raw, or lightly cooked) vegetables (NOT artichoke Hearts,
especially in oil), like your cucumbers, and carrots, broccoli, squash, etc...

You don't have to eat like that forever, just until you get better.
Think of it as "Food Medicine".

For mucus, supposedly the best thing to do is to drink a lot of water.
And maybe gargle with salt water, as well.

I hope you figure it out soonish.
 
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 25 Jun 2023 19:51 #79163

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Here's something you might want to try for Mucus problems:


 
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 26 Jun 2023 07:14 #79167

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@ Neocosmism -- Very Interesting info - taking notes! Thank you so much for responding :)

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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 26 Jun 2023 08:54 #79168

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Hi BillPop,

Thanks so much for your response,

I haven't been taking the MMS since my last post, because something (maybe the clay + psyllium shakes on the mold protocol) messed up my gut pretty bad and now my belly is hard and distended, and my elimination is all wonky. So I started taking that Global Healing Oxy Powder to flush out my gut, but it's not doing that much. I'm hardly every constipated, but everything just seems off right now.

So I've just taken a week off to drink lots of herbal teas, eat big salads and steamed veggies and fruit and take probiotics. I still look and feel quite bloated though.

Figuring out what to eat during the protocol is my biggest problem.

I didn't think the meal I ate (chicken + artichoke hearts) was particularly healthy, but, I thought Jim Humble says you shouldn't nourish the body too much while on the protocol because you're just nourishing the pathogens as well.

I also thought you're not supposed to have too much antioxidants - so I thought that meant not to have veggies like carrots, brocoli and squash which are all nutrient dense.

Jim Humble also says not to try to alkalinize the body - he says foods don't change your PH, acid environments are actually more hostile to pathogens than an alkaline one, and the body is supposed to be slightly acidic anyways.  

My naturopath told me to eat things like meat and oatmeal because you can eat smaller amounts and they'll still hold you over for a while, and you want to keep your stomach on the empty side.

Also, something that carb-heavy (like mashed potatoes and white rice)  - isn't it just going to feed the candida?

Could you say more about why you think that chicken is a bad choice? Is it any meat? How about eggs?

I agree that I should start over.

I just don't know if I need to do more on the Mold Protocol first, and (if so) how to mesh that with my stomach still being all jacked up from the last round of bentonite/psyllium shakes, (and possibly the DMSO + MMS1).

And I don't know what to actually eat.

If I stop working out I could probably just fast until evening, but since I work out, I get pretty hungry about an hour or so later. Is it better to be sedentary for a few months so I can fast? Or is it better to come up with an eating plan and keep up with my daily workouts?

I really wish Jim Humble had more guidance about this stuff in his book!!!

 

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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 26 Jun 2023 12:13 #79171

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When you are cutting carbs to starve Candida you have to add in more fat. Chicken isn't preferred but if you cook thighs in a creamy sauce that is an easy way to up the fat. Something like Indian Coconut Curry or Butter Chicken if you don't have a reaction to the spices. Chickens are very high in Omega 6 (linoleic acid) due to a diet of grains. Locating properly raised chickens is not only difficult but is very expensive. A simpler approach would be fatty beef like a roast or a steak that has visible fat. Don't use vegetable oils, even olive oil is up to 95% seed oil and the vast majority of avocado oil is rancid. Butter (or ghee), tallow, and lard are superior fats and are the optimal source of energy for our bodies. Dairy also can feed Candida so don't switch to cheese for extra fats. Be careful not to forgo the fats and only rely on protein, that will force your body to convert the extra protein to glucose which will feed the Candida. The war on saturated fat created the fattest and unhealthiest people in history.
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 27 Jun 2023 20:56 #79187

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I always suggest people follow Jim McDougall's diet (McVegan Dietary Lifestyle),
which is curative in its own right.

You would need to read up on him to fully understand why.

I'm not sure about the Candida thing, but supposedly Clay and/or MMS get rid of that
fairly easily and quickly.
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Update, and thoughts on some confusing reactions to treatment 30 Jun 2023 04:19 #79223

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I just finished a 2 hour presentation on YouTube by Jim McDougall, as per your suggestion!

While I thought there were some logical errors in some of his comments, I found it a very interesting point of view, and I'm inclined to believe him when he says that the emphasis on high protein is industry-driven, comes with harmful side effects, and is not actually the cure-all for everything that ails us that the current trend hails it as.

Thank you so much for sharing it!

I felt a lot better eating nothing but plants today - salads, sweet potato, avocado, garbanzo beans. My stomach feels settled, my peristalsis has normalized, and I'm actually very happy to be foregoing meat, which bothers me from a heartfelt moral point of view more than anything else.

I thought it was interesting too, that he called milk, "liquid meat" - and I can see how this is a useful way of describing it.

Very clean veganism appeals to me on many levels. I will probably keep making bone broths from the Farmer's Market, and consuming fresh eggs, and the occasionally using raw honey, and let that be about it for my consumption of animal products.

Thanks again! :)

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