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12 Aug 2019 01:43 #61079 by mart1n
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Looking at differences in strength CHRISSTINIS, the P2O5 content of my trisodium dodecahydrate is 19%
And here a anhydrous product with a P2O5 content of 41% - which is double the amount.
You may have a point then for incrasing dosage.

What is the phosphate content of your dodecahydrate? Very few providers do list the phosphate content of their product.

One correction on my >90% purity grade. I assumed the other 10% was the water (dodecahydrate), but that seems not to bee the case. 90% is merely technical grade and contains impurities, possibly toxins. Close to 100% pure is what I will order next.

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12 Aug 2019 06:36 - 12 Aug 2019 07:07 #61082 by CLO2
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While rereading the Teeth Brushing Procedure in Jim's latest book on page 74, I noticed that he says this:

"Note: For a number of years, people around the world have been successfully using MMS1 to keep their mouths in shape and to overcome various teeth and gum infections. You don’t have to worry about the alkalinity of the sodium chlorite nor the acidity of MMS1 leaching mercury out of your teeth. This is because the acidity in the MMS activator when mixed drop for drop with the MMS (sodium chlorite) which is alkaline, is calculated to mostly cancel one another out, leaving the MMS1 solution much closer to neutral. The acidity is then much less than most fruits and cannot hurt your teeth or leach mercury from your fillings. Keep in mind that fruits and vegetables are acidic in nature more so than MMS1 doses. (For more information on the acidity and alkalinity of fruits and vegetables, see Appendix C.)"

Notice that he says the MMS1 mix of acid, acid and alkaline MMS is CALCULATED to cancel each other out, leaving a solution close to pH 7, neutral. So, the calculation must have been wrong and apparently no pH measurements were taken! Also, no mention of possible tooth enamel damage that could be caused by a low pH (acid) MMS1 solution in combination with brushing of the softened enamel.

I believe when deciding to use MMS (general term for SCS) for a particular ailment, there is usually a best SCS (MMS1, CDS or CDH) for that ailment. In the case of teeth brushing, it is obvious that CDS (WITHOUT added MMS) would be the best SCS choice.
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12 Aug 2019 06:47 #61083 by CHRISSTINIS
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Hi Mart1n,
The purity of mine was 99% technical grade
Purity: complies to the purity requirements of E339 (food additive); N13-01
P2O5: 18.5-19.5 %
Na2O: 26.0-27.0 %
And Scott found it in amazon
P2O5: 43.1% which is 2,33 more potent

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12 Aug 2019 07:18 #61085 by CLO2
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Martin said: "ClO2, if you got the time and interest for it, could you check the pH of a batch of reduced acidity (50%) CDH, and also a batch of plain MMS solution dissolved in water?"

Sure, I can do that. Probably in the next couple of days.

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12 Aug 2019 08:51 - 12 Aug 2019 10:12 #61087 by mart1n
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CHRISSTINIS wrote:
P2O5: 43.1% which is 2,33 more potent


Got it now. The anhydrous trisodium phosphate seems to have about double the amount of phosphate content compared to the dodecahydrate form.
So I'm going to adjust dosage according to that.
Thanks!
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12 Aug 2019 08:59 #61088 by mart1n
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CLO2 wrote: I believe when deciding to use MMS (general term for SCS) for a particular ailment, there is usually a best SCS (MMS1, CDS or CDH) for that ailment. In the case of teeth brushing, it is obvious that CDS (WITHOUT added MMS) would be the best SCS choice.


Agreed. And good to have pointed out what went wrong when establishing the teeth protocol.

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12 Aug 2019 16:52 #61089 by CLO2
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Martin, I have ordered the one from Amazon with the higher content. What then should the recipe be? Thanks.

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12 Aug 2019 20:28 - 12 Aug 2019 20:37 #61091 by mart1n
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ClO2, if it's this anhydrous Na3PO4 form , then you can use the original recipe. 2 tea spoons of trisodium phosphate, 6 table spoons of sodium bicarbonate, dissolved in 1/2 to 3/4th liter of water (16 to 24 ounces), preferably distilled or RO.

The original amount of trisodium phosphate is based on it's ± 40% phosphate content.

For those unable to get a hold of anhydrous Na3PO4, the dodecahydrate form (Na3PO4.12H2O) can be used as well. Dodecahydrate has a lower phosphate content, ± 20%, or half the amount. I have dodecahydrate and currently use double the amount = 4 tea spoons in half a liter of water. I can't get all the sodium bicarbonate to dissolve in this half liter so I went from 6 to 4 table spoons of sodium bicarbonate.

Preparing: What I do is first water, then add trisodium phosphate, then sodium bicarbonate. Shake to help dissolve and it's ready for use. If not everything dissolves you can either add some more water or use some less sodium bicarbonate.

Use: I've done a mouthwash with this solution 3-5 times a day the past 3 days. Also brushed my teeth with it. Do not swallow.

Everyone is welcome to add more info or ask questions.
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12 Aug 2019 21:36 - 12 Aug 2019 21:41 #61092 by CLO2
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Thanks for that recipe info, Martin. I will try it when the TriSodium Phosphate (TSP) arrives from Amazon.

When the two ingredients are mixed onto the water, what size dosing from that solution do you suggest using? And, will the stock solution need to be diluted with additional water for use as a mouthwash / teeth brushing?
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13 Aug 2019 05:27 - 13 Aug 2019 07:13 #61094 by CHRISSTINIS
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Scott, currently I am using 10 ml of the dilution and I was shaking the bottle when I was using 4 teaspoons of soda. You must mouthwash it 2-3 minutes or more if your teeth have enough damage. For me at the beginning took all the pain from my gum and as it bubble too much I had to spit it in less than a minute and to have second normal mouthwash for 2-3 minutes.
Now I need only one dose of mouthwash as it don’t bubble, and you don’t need to place more water. Now I am using less soda, so that not to shake the bottle every time I need to mouthwash and the ph of my now solution is 10 ph.
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