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CLO2,
thanks for the hint of making it in the fridge, I will next time , it seems a good idea

Thanks for measuring the acidity of the solution - given that it is acidic, I think that I will just brush my teeth as normal,
and then swish the CDS/water solution in the mouth afterwards as opposed to brushing it on.
It seems to me that that would be more benign for the tooth enamel .

I did read about the DMSO killing of the CLO2 so I will add that just as I am about to use it..

Generally the protocol with acids on the teeth is that you dont brush after teeth have been exposed to something acidic - so i think extra safety
precautions with using CDS or similar is to just let the teeth settle afterwards and make sure they arent exposed to anything for a while at that point-
or swish with a baking soda/water mix to return alkalinity?

i think I am going to rest my teeth for longer to make sure they are truly restored, and then approach it all pretty carefully.
I dont want to give up on this idea of being able to get rid of the infection - if I cant i cant, but its worth trying, otherwise its goodbye teeth!

Scott,
thanks for your analysis, it is helpful for me to get a perspective on this, and how to approach it.

I did actually originally watch a video of a guy on you tube who was using straight DMSO and activated MMS to kill his tooth infection, no dilution,
brushing it on - and it seemed to have worked for him without negative side effects -
I would say I could not get away with this though!

I agree with diluting it to an appropriate concentration and rinsing after - that is what I will be doing

I have used DMSO quite a lot in other applications - topically for excercise recovery, strains, joints etc.
And I do take it internally at high dosage, 3-6 tsp a day, on days when i am not doing close socialization (the smell).
Originally I used to take it every day - and when I first started taking it it actually nuked the infection in my mouth for many months, it was completely silent-
but eventually came back , and the continuance of the internal DMSO did not seem to have a further effect.
Anyway - so i know it can have a positive effect of knocking back infection , even on its own.

I am not sure how it will work with taking the CLO2 into tooth cells - but I guess i will find out, lol

It seems to me that the trick is to get a high enough CDS/MMS concentration to kill of infection , without damaging teeth,
and then being able to factor in the penetration powers of DMSO into that.

I will let you know how it goes..

cheers
Nola

Poler wrote:

and others develop issues?

It's the citric acid residue in MMS1, as CLO2 mentioned early on. HCL residue has same effect - MMS1 makes the problem worse. Learned that the hard way myself.
Use CDS or CDH.

Problem is solved it looks like but doesn't hurt to repeat that MMS1 is a no-no for abscessed teeth.

Thanks, Mart1n
I appreciate your input - its good to be able to understand these things - and good for anybody who comes behind to see too!

I have been using only the CDS and find it good - it hasnt completed resolved my teeth situation yet, but it is a lot better.
Mostly I have been using CDS on its own, in water - started with about 20 drops in a larger amount of water, and have worked my way down to 20 drops in 2-3 tsps of
water, with which I swish around the mouth for 5 minutes and spit out (after a normal tooth clean).

Some days I add about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of dmso to this mix and swish as above.
I dont use dmso often because it does make the breath emanate an unpleasant smell.

I am still contemplating increasing the strength of the CDS a bit more to see if it will completely resolve the tooth situation, but have been cautious so far -
also too busy to focus on much experimentation.

I have had no problems with tooth sensitivity with the CDS or the "gummy" feeling of the teeth that I had after MMS1.
Mainly it just feels super astringent in the mouth, in a way that feels useful for knocking back infection

Mostly I am glad to have found this kind of a solution , and will keep working on it to see if I can get full resolution.
Because of busyness i havent been putting all my energies there yet..

cheers..

Poler wrote:

I dont use dmso often because it does make the breath emanate an unpleasant smell.[...] I am still contemplating increasing the strength of the CDS a bit more to see if it will completely resolve the tooth situation, but have been cautious so far -

From my experience there is a limit to what ClO2 can do for abscessed teeth. Maybe because ClO2 reacts with the minerals in the teeth - minerals that would be needed for regeneration, if possible.
It seems you manage to control the abscess part somewhat. That is what I have done for years - by use of CDH.
I'm currently looking for ways to strengthen teeth by use of certain minerals and vitamins. Phosphorus, Vit D and K2 are implicated in the utilisation of calcium. Also, sufficient levels of stomach acid are needed to actually be able to employ the minerals from both food and mineral supplements.

Without the essential minerals ClO2 may only delay further damage.
The disinfection part alone is not enough. The actual cause for tooth decay has to be eliminated.

I recently ordered trisodium phosphate. This should be one of the teeth-regenerating components. I got the wrong kind though and have to find one that is 99% pure. No other chemicals added.
Will update later on what I'm doing.

Ok, thanks, good to hear this information - that is pretty much where I am at at the moment - controlling the infection with the CDS.

I looked up the tri-sodium phosphate for regenerating teeth and found that video by Tony, that shows mixing it with baking soda and distilled water and gargling
to regenerate teeth - very interesting - i am going to try that.
Just trying to find out where to buy a pure tri-sodium phosphate - in New Zealand..

I know somewhat about K2 and other tooth regenerating ideas, but had never heard of the above - it seems simple and worth a try.
The comments below the video from people who tried it were pretty positive too.

cheers

Regenerating your teeth - Tony Pantalleresco

I think I found a good enough trisodium phosphate at a DIY beer brewing shop here in Norway. It's used to clean beer brewing equipment. Specified as being "phosphoric acid - trisodiumsalt - dodecahydrate - >90%".
"Dodecahydrate" is supposed to be "12 molecules of water" - meaning the salt is somewhat hydrated. Chemical formula is Na3PO4.12H2O. CAS № 10101-89-0.

Understanding PubChem correctly there should be at least 2 usable trisodium phosphate salts; the anhydrous pure form, and the hydrated form. Anhydrous lacks the 12H2O and has CAS № 7601-54-9.

Going to try the dodecahydrate-one and see what happens.

Nola, where did you find the teeth brushing procedure you followed? I looked in Jim's three MMS books and did not find it there.

Today I measured the pH of 5 drop MMS1 doses in 60 ml water solutions made with 50% citric acid and 4% HCL, as well as CDS and CDH. All 4 of the solutions supplied the same amount of CLO2, 3.4 mg. I used Jim's 5 drop MMS1 teeth brushing procedure found in his latest book, MMS Health Recovery Guidebook, which starts on page 73. DMSO was not added to any of the SCS solutions for this testing.

When I finish writing up the test results, I will post them here. You may be shocked when you see the results.