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Hi,
Jim Humbe told me NOT TO GET ANY VACCINATION EVER before traveling, just take MMS with me and use the protocol for MALARIA if I ever get it.

However do you take then those MALARIA TABLETS 2weeks before trip to e.g. New Delhi-India, Amazon Forest etc.?
or ANYTHING ELSE or nothing at all???

And how to cure with MMS1 or MMS2- other VACCINABLE ILLNESSES then like:
1. BLACK COUGH,
2. YELLOW FEVER,
3. THYPHUS,
4. PIG FLU
5. anything else one usually gets TRAVEL VACCINES FOR???


6. And how about TETANUS-
in EU we should get a JAB every 10 YEARS-
so if one works in the garden with clay, mud etc. is there a risk???
And what protocol to use? Would that not happen too quicky then to be late for MMS1 or MMS2- if one gets TETANUS???
Anyone has any experience with it? And in the USA do you also have to have TETANUS VACCINATION every 10years or it is just something made up in EUROPE???????????????????

And how about newborns? Anyone tried not to give them those regular jabs for childrens illnesses???

I would really like to know more about this topic and believe that many people out there too-
so if you know anything at all, please write here your experience or what you have learnt.
As it is a bit freeky thinking that if I took 120days MMS2- 6xday size 0caps. and with MMS1 in my pocket, I can now feel totally safe without any vaccines...or do you all go without it????????

Many thanks
LOVE

Here's a fascinating blog post from a friend of mine recently, talking about vaccines. I've had a lot of them in my lifetime - no more, if I have any control over it.

phaelosopher.com/2012/08/28/hela-cells-great-for-the-business-of-medicine/

Hi Pam,
thanks for the link...
(The problem is digged too deep in our postmodern society- it would be lovely, but one will need to become an angel first or be very rich to start with:) However, without a birth certificate you cannot go to school, neither can you travel far- no passport, work officially etc.etc. and without vaccinations children cannot go to schools etc.etc. So what is the solution to that- any at all??? MMS is just a sparkling surface of a mirror in all that... Only if you are very rich you can get your private jet, private tutors, your own food, own land far away from the destroyed ones etc. etc. Anyone going to the Space?

However due to my 1.bad experience with MMS for FLU, I am not 100% convinced it would save me in a case of MALARIA etc. if I dont take any vaccines, malaria tablets etc. before travels!!!??? I would like to convince myself though:) CAN YOU HELP ME?


Recently I have got a really bad flu (teeth and joints pain,green/yellow mucus big pieces- so probably a flu...)

So starting with day one of this flu I also started with my first ever INTERNAL MMS TAKE each hour:
(before that I used MMS bath for 3months- 2,5ml+ 12,5ml ACVinegar and 10drop FACE spray for 1mths for a MILD ROSACEA)
1) 1 drop+ 5 Fresh Lemon- drops- 3mins wait+ 125ml tap water+80ml BAKING SODA-tasted good + I was totally ok
2) 3drops+15drop ALL SAME AS ABOVE-ok
3) 5drops-ok- Tooth and joints pain+ sore throat went away
4) 6drops-ok
5) 6drops-ok
6) 6drops-okish
7) 6drops at 4pm=diarrhea+ small nose bleed
5pm diarrhea a bit 2x bad one, so I have stopped taking MMS as I felt I will make myself very bad if I continue...
6pm diarrhea water+ vomiting (yellow mucus no food it seemed)+diarrhea
stomachache+ really bad feeling
10pm huge vomiting 2x (same as before)- diarrhea a bit
I felt better
10.30pm a bit of diarrhea
11.45pm 2:1 BSoda: Ascorbic Acid 1g in 1/8l
IS 1g of ASCORBIC ACID COMPULSORY EACH NIGHT 2h after last MMS dose- when taking 24drops of MMS a day???Or can I take vit.C slow release as well- if so, how many hours before the first moning dose of MMS???[/b]
followed by 10days of DIARRHEA only:

Obviously I have tried to do the Claras 6x6 FLU PROTOCOL, but there was absolutely no way to take it all.
It has been 10days since my ONE MMS day and I still have DIARRHEA- but not after each meal,
but just several streams 1x a day as the only BM, which is very strange...
SO I WOULD CONCLUDE THAT MMS PROBABLY DAMAGED MY INTESTINES SOMEHOW as its effect can last only up to 2hours max(not that it is just parasites reaction as the process I stopped by taking 1g of ASCORBIC ACID +BS for the night the first day. OR DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION???

So, now I cannot continue to try even 3drops per hour untill my intestines HEAL!?

And how could I be able to take 15drops 3x a day after 4hours for MALARIA- if I womit and get diarrhea after the dose one??????????????
And I have already done those 120days of MMS2...so what is happening? Can I be allergic to MMS??? TOO SENSITIVE TO IT??? ANY REPERTED CASES LIKE THAT???

Interestingly my face went almost WHITE and WITHOUT PIMPLES straight after the vomiting (I dont have Helicobacter Pyroli- got tested for that) or maybe before not sure-
but after few days ROSACEA came back and much worse than before (did I woke up the devil again?- so it seem to have some effect on it, I just have to be able to somehow HEAL MY INTESTINES to be able to continue use MMS-
any idea???
Or can I continue even if I have diarrhea?

AS IF I BURN MY FACE AND USE PARADOXLY MMS SPRAY ON IT- IT SEEMS TO SLOWLY HEAL THE MMS BURN:))) BUT IT MUST BE MUCH WEAKER THAN THE ORIGINAL WHICH BURNED MY FACE...

COULD YOU SUGGEST WHAT TO DO? ANY BEST NEW PROTOCOL FOR ROSACEA? P1000 for 3weeks+spray+bath? Any 100% NATURAL MOISTURISER I could add to MMS (e.g. ALOE JUICE after MMS SPRAY, COCNUT OIL tingles and itch on MMS mild dry-burns)??????????????
MANY THANKS

If you're doing protocol 1000, it's max 3 drops activated an hour. That's 24 drops in a day, and you did 33 drops that first day. Diarrhea and vomiting are traditionally signs of a herx reaction - the MMS is killing off the pathogens faster than the body can excrete them -- and at the first signs of a herx reaction, you're supposed to drop your drops back - even to as low as 1/2 a drop an hour.

I will tell you that I can only do the chewable vitamin C - the regular vitamin C pills tear up my stomach something fierce. I'm not sure why you're doing the ascorbic acid. It's not really part of any protocol, other than what Jim has mentioned for ateriosclerosis. The timed release - it's hard to know what the timing is on the release. If it says "over 12 hours" you would need to do it 2 hours after your last dose and 14 hours before your first dose of MMS.

You will have to make your own decision re: whether or not you get vaccinations - you are ultimately in charge of your own health care. I, personally, think vaccinations are dangerous - but I can't tell you what to do or not do. I will say that some people in the US who choose not to vaccinate their kiddos will homeschool them. But that requires a parent that can stay at home with the child or children.

Your flu was self-diagnosed? Whatever it was, it does sound like a viral infection - and when those viruses get all caught up there in the biofilm (mucous) it's sometimes hard to get to them. It's too late now, of course, but I would have suggested a neti-pot and some careful inhalation.

There is currently some question re: the use of baking soda - in terms of what it does to the MMS. We've pretty much stopped recommending it - it's easy to get too much.

I seriously doubt that MMS has damaged your intestines - particularly since I've known people who have done much higher doses than you have. MMS does not attack body tissues. It only attacks those pathogens that have a oxydizing potential of less than .95v, which is basically pathogens and heavy metals. Body tissues are much higher in oxydization potential.

The most interesting thing that I have read is that people who get malaria don't seem to have the same herx reaction to the 15 drop dose... I don't know why.

MMS1 and MMS2 work differently in the body. So I can't assume that the use of the MMS2 has somehow made you less susceptible to catching an opportunistic virus. Do you have Jim Humble's latest book? He explains the differences quite clearly.

I have used the MMS spray (10 drops activated per ounce of water) on the most sensitive parts of my body and NOT had a burn. I'm not sure what paradoxyl MMS spray is..

I don't know that I've answered any of your questions, maybe just led you in directions to explore -

Fruit Tree,

If you file a UCC1 on your children, it tells the state you claim they are yours. [ folks forget, the marriage certificate asks permission from the state to get married which nobody really needs but since everybody does it, people just do what everyone else does!!!, then that joins the state in on your business, like your children and the state steps in on regulations etc ]

You would file it with your local courthouse...possibly check online for UCC filings where you live.

So, once you establish that, you also establish the rules such as no forced vaccinations and only the parent will give permission if they happen to agree or whatever wording suits you better. That may go on a UCC addendum....you'll have to check out that part....but you need the UCC1 to mark your territory so to speak.

post back how it goes.

best wishes

kw

Thanks Pam,
even your suggestions as well as answers helped a lot.

I stopped using 100% Apple Cider vinegar and I have tried to use the 50% citric acid...
AND MY SPRAY DOES NOT BURN EVEN MY EYES- NOTHING AT ALL, EXACTLY AS YOU SAID!!!
THANK YOU, PAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pam, I have probably read it on other webs suggesting to use VIT C- ascorbic acid 2h after each daily dose of MMS to balance it out- oxidation-reduction reactions in the body...
So do you ever use vit C say after the 3weeks course of MMS
or you just carry on with the PROTOCOL 1000 until well (even a year) and you dont need any vitaminC etc?

Did you try vit C (citric acid) with soda 2:1+ half glass water on your stomach?

And what about GREEN TEA (which apparently is 20x stronger as antioxidant than vitC), (coffee)
is that ok 2hours before the first MMS daily dose?



Yup, self-diagnosed- I think the aching teeth and joints- I never ever had- suggested the flu symptoms as well as the nasty mucous, however whatever it was...the aching went away after the first few doses of MMS, just the mucos stayed in my nose+throat- those 10-14days, which I had everyday diarrhea- after the first day of over-using MMS (still I am a bit puzzled if you say it cannot destroy the intestinal walls and the reaction of MMS is well over, could the already dead patogens cause 14days of diarrhea afterwards???),
then I started MMS again one drop first hour 2drops second 3drops third= 24drops a day and these symptoms went magically away:)

I was ok with the taste of MMS, but after 3days I had to use BAKING SODA (my stomach wanted to womit just when I thought about drinking more of MMS...) so I use only up to 400ml BS in the daily dose 24drops in a 1l bottle-
thats much less than it was suggested (700ml I think- 1/8 of a teaspoon-5g/ml) by Jim, so I cannot be overusing it (and I must say I feel much better using it,
however every morning I still have a diarrhea 1-3x, but that I suppose its just that the patogens must get out somehow, I do not have any diarrhea during the day after any meal I take- while I take my Daily bottle 24drops)...is there any other issue with using BS- e.g. like that MMS does not cure at all?



One thing I must ask- sometimes the drop skip and goes through the second hole (in a dropper) and I lose count a bit- so if I accidently do 25drops of citric acid and just 24drops of MMS
or 25drops of MMS and 24drps of citric acid- IS THAT A PROBLEM???
DOES 1 or 2 drops less can cause any harm???

The other thing, when I activated with a vinegar the reaction went dark and smelly but after 3mins the liquid was light color again and not so smelly.
BUT WITH 50% CITRIC ACID after 20s its still dark brownish and too smelly-
so I did rather 30-40s(+ there are already about +24s as I am dropping the MMS into 24drops of citric acid...) so my question is how many seconds can I ACTIVATE MAX BEFORE MMS LOSES ITS POTENCE FOR HEALING?
AND IF IT IS STILL DARK BROWNISH AFTER 20s SHOULD I ADD WATER AND NOT WORRY OR CONTINUE TO SWIRL FOR FEW MORE SECONDS untill yellowish in color???



Thanks, good to know that with Malaria one does not get this strong reaction.
So I assume people who rely on MMS do not take even those MALARIA PILLS before their journey???
AND THE SAME MALARIA PROTOCOL IS USED ALSO ON YELLOW FEVER, THYPHUS, AND ALL OTHER USUALLY VACCINATED TROPICAL ILLNESSES??? Or are people rather using 24drops a day or less? while in tropical environment to prevent any illness? I would like to know how others go about it, so I can be safe without vacinations.

Many thanks Pam, I hope all will be clear now and I will not need to ask any more questions, just to report the good results:)
Kind Regards & Love!

Hi kw,
thanks for the info- i understood the UCC might be helpful, but if one does not get married at all how one then protect the house etc. for children in case of separation and all other protection things which comes with official marriage?

I am just curious, it does not apply to me yet, I just want to know how people does it to gain more freedom from the government:)

By filing the UCC form, dont you get on goverment black-list more quickly then if you simply dont visit vaccination clinics etc, and homeschool your children as Pam suggested?

Many thanks for any tips
Love

Just out of curiosity - do airlines cause problems with taking MMS on the airplane? I guess if you put it in your suitcase - it is fine but just wondering if going through customs/inspections at some of the countries, if they challenge anyone.
We are looking to do some travel next summer so this has been helpful for me. I am just reading the books on MMS and DMSO and I would love to have them as part of our emergency kit. It is really amazing some of the stories in there.

Ever wondered what is in vaccines?
Have you ever wondered what's really in vaccines? According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control's vaccine additives page, all the following ingredients are routinely used as vaccine additives:

• Alum
inum - A light metal that causes dementia and Alzheimer's disease. You should never inject yourself with aluminum.

• Antibiotics - Chemicals that promote superbugs, which are deadly antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria that are killing tens of thousands of Americans every year.

• Formaldehyde - A "pickling" chemical used to preserve cadavers. It's highly toxic to the nervous system, causing blindness, brain damage and seizures. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services openly admits that formaldehyde causes cancer. You can see this yourself on the National Toxicology Program website, featuring its 12th Report on Carcinogens.

There, the formaldehyde Fact Sheet completely neglects to mention formaldehyde in vaccines. This is the "dirty little secret" of government and the vaccine industry. It does state, however, that "...formaldehyde causes myeloid leukemia, and rare cancers including sinonasal and nasopharyngeal cancer."

• Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) - A neurotoxic chemical called an "excitotoxin." It causes brain neurons to be overexcited to the point of death. MSG is toxic even when consumed in foods, where it causes migraine headaches and endocrine system damage. You should NEVER inject MSG into your body. But that's what health workers do when they inject you with vaccines.

• Thimerosal - A methyl mercury compound that causes severe, permanent nervous system damage. Mercury is highly toxic to the brain. You should never touch, swallow or inject mercury at any dose. There is no safe dose of mercury! Doctors and vaccine pushers LIE to you and say there is no mercury in vaccines. Even the CDC readily admits vaccine still contain mercury (thimerosal).

In addition, National Toxicology Programs admits in its own documents that:

• Vaccinations "...may produce small but measurable increases in blood levels of mercury."

• "Thimerosal was found to cross the blood-brain and placenta barriers."

• The "...hazards of thimerosal include neurotoxicity and nephrotoxicity." (This means brain and kidney toxicity.)

• "...similar toxicological profiles between ethylmercury and methylmercury raise the possibility that neurotoxicity may also occur at low doses of thimerosal."

• "... there are no existing guidelines for safe exposure to ethylmercury, the metabolite of thimerosal."

• "...the assessment determined that the use of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines might result in the intake of mercury during the first six months of life that exceeded recommended guidelines from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)..."

• ..."In the U.S., thimerosal is still present as preservative in some vaccines given to young children, as well as certain biological products recommended during pregnancy. Thimerosal remains a preservative in some vaccines administered to adolescents and adults. In addition, thimerosal continues to be used internationally as a vaccine preservative."

The report then goes on to say that the FDA studies thimerosal and somehow found it to be perfectly safe. It also states that vaccine manufactures are "working" to remove thimerosal from vaccines, but in reality it's still being manufactured right into the vaccines.

By the way, this report also reveals that the FDA requires preservatives like thimerosal only in so-called "multi-dose" vaccines -- vials that contain more than one dose of the vaccine. Drug companies could, if they wanted to, produce "clean" single-dose vaccines without any mercury / thimerosal. But they choose not to because it's more profitable to product mercury-containing multi-dose vaccines. As the report admits, "Preservatives are not required for products formulated in singledose vials. Multidose vials are preferred by some physicians and health clinics because they are often less expensive per vaccine dose and require less storage space."

So the reason why your child is being injected with vaccine boils down to health care offices making more money and saving shelf space!


"Mercury in vaccines is a conspiracy theory!
I've been told by numerous "skeptics" and doctors that there's no such thing as mercury in vaccines, and that any such suggestion is nothing more than a "wild conspiracy theory." That just goes to show you how ignorant all the skeptics, doctors and health professionals really are: They have NO CLUE what's in the vaccines they're dishing out to people!

All they have to do is visit this CDC vaccine additives web page, which openly admits to these chemicals being used in vaccines right now. It's not a conspiracy theory, it turns out. It's the status quo of modern-day vaccine manufacturing!

And just in case the CDC removes that page, here's a screen shot, taken October 22, 2012, showing exactly what was on the CDC vaccine additives page:

Feel that headache after a vaccine? That's the feeling of chemicals eating your brain
Now, consider this: The most common side effect of a vaccine injection is a headache. The CDC admits that over 30 percent of those receiving vaccines experience headaches or migraines. Gee, think about it: What could possibly be in vaccines that would cause headaches, migraines and brain damage?

Ummm, how about the mercury, the formaldehyde, the aluminum and the MSG!

Even if you believe in the theory of vaccines as a helpful way to train the immune system to recognize pathogens, why would anyone -- especially a doctor -- think it's okay to inject human beings with mercury, MSG, formaldehyde and aluminum?

The argument of the vaccine pushers is that each vaccine only contains a tiny dose of these highly toxic substances, and therefore it's okay to be injected with them. But this argument makes a fatal error: U.S. children are now receiving over twenty vaccines by the time they're six years old! What's the cumulative effect of all these vaccines, plus the mercury from dental fillings and dietary sources? What's the effect of injected mercury on an immune-suppressed child living in a state of chronic nutritional deficiency?

Scientists don't know that answer because such studies have never been conducted. So they pretend that nothing bad will happen and keep pushing more and more vaccines on infants, children and even expectant mothers. They're playing Russian roulette with our children, in other words, where every injection could cause a seizure, coma, autism or death.


Why doesn't the vaccine industry offer "clean" vaccines free from all toxic additives?
If vaccines are supposed to be good for you, why do they contain so many additives that are BAD for you? You wouldn't want to eat mercury in your tuna fish. You wouldn't want MSG in your sandwich, and you certainly wouldn't want formaldehyde in your soda. So why would you allow yourself to be injected with these deadly substances?

And just as importantly, why wouldn't the vaccine industry offer CLEAN vaccines? Without any brain-damaging additives?

Think about it: When you buy health food, you want that health food to have NO mercury, NO MSG, NO aluminum and certainly no formaldehyde. No sane person would knowingly eat those neurotoxic poisons. And yet, astonishingly, those same people literally line up to be INJECTED with those exact same brain-damaging poisons, with the justification that, somehow, "This injection is good for me!"

Absurdly, the vaccine industry says these toxic ingredients are intentionally added to vaccines to make them work better! Yes, that's the reason: Mercury makes vaccines work better, they insist. Click here to see a video news report actually claiming mercury makes vaccines work better, granting children "improved behavior and mental performance."

No, I'm not making this up. The mainstream media literally claims that mercury is GOOD for babies. Vitamins might kill you, they say, but mercury is good for you!

But hold on a second: I thought the theory behind vaccines was that weakened viruses would give the immune system a rehearsal so that it would build up antibodies to the real thing. Where does mercury, MSG or formaldehyde fit anywhere in that theory? Does your body benefit in any way from exposure to formaldehyde? Of course not. The very idea is ludicrous.

So are there such things are clean vaccines? I challenge you to try to find one. They simply don't exist for the population at large. Nearly all vaccines for the masses are deliberately formulated with neurotoxic chemicals that have absolutely nothing to do with the science of vaccinations, but everything to do with autism, Alzheimer's disease, early-onset dementia, immune suppression, and the mass dumbing down of brain function.


Vaccines are designed with chemical additives to poison the population, not to protect the population
That's the real purpose of vaccines: Not to "protect children" with any sort of immunity, but to inject the masses with a toxic cocktail of chemicals that cause brain damage and infertility: Mercury, MSG, formaldehyde and aluminum. The whole point of this is to dumb the population down so that nobody has the presence of mind to wake up and start thinking for themselves.

This is precisely why the smartest, most "awake" people still remaining in society today are the very same ones who say NO to vaccines. Only their brains are still intact and operating with some level of awareness.

The system wants you to stay dumbed down, of course. It makes you easier to control. Watch George Carlin brilliantly explain the concept of "Obedient Workers" (explicit):