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08 Feb 2012 03:35 #11835
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Sorry for a probably dumn question. Just wanted to make sure.
You dont have to add soium bicarbonate to MMS to increase its effectiveness and it is done only in case you cannot tolerate the taste of the original formula, right?
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You dont have to add soium bicarbonate to MMS to increase its effectiveness and it is done only in case you cannot tolerate the taste of the original formula, right?
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08 Feb 2012 03:53 #11836
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08 Feb 2012 05:10 #11842
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Thanks Dr Ron for your contrabution of the baking soda. I've been using it for over a week now and the taste is great much better than the CDS. Some time in the last month or so the forum someone said that 1 ml = 25 drops so tonight I wanted to see myself so I tried the metered hdpe caps and it was under 1 ml, tried the eye dropper bottles from the drug store and it was under 1 ml, tried the blue and green bottles with the reg. snap closure caps and it was almost 2 ml's. So I guess because you said your measurements and amounts were done with the snap closure caps that to me would be the only way to do the 1/8 baking soda protocal to be on the target , correct. Thank you Orv
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08 Feb 2012 12:53 #11857
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Hey Steve
We had a great trip and wonderful visit with Jim Humble and accomplished alot
What we are trying to accomplish here is a way to do it that most people have easy access to, that being baking soda and kitchen measuring spoon. So they do not have to buy something else
The key to this method being so simple and easy is by mixing the standard protocol 1000 full day eight doses at same time. This is the eight 3 drop doses activated, then add quart of water then add 1/8 teaspoon baking soda.
This method is the least amount of daily mixing and can be taken with you and will last a month in the fridge
I know drop counting sounds easier but in fact it is more labor intensive, requires one to buy something else and the margin of error can lead to a larger than needed ph change which would lower the ppm chlorine dioxide substantially and change the effectiveness of mms mix
We have a video coming out that will show just how easy this is.
We had a great trip and wonderful visit with Jim Humble and accomplished alot
What we are trying to accomplish here is a way to do it that most people have easy access to, that being baking soda and kitchen measuring spoon. So they do not have to buy something else
The key to this method being so simple and easy is by mixing the standard protocol 1000 full day eight doses at same time. This is the eight 3 drop doses activated, then add quart of water then add 1/8 teaspoon baking soda.
This method is the least amount of daily mixing and can be taken with you and will last a month in the fridge
I know drop counting sounds easier but in fact it is more labor intensive, requires one to buy something else and the margin of error can lead to a larger than needed ph change which would lower the ppm chlorine dioxide substantially and change the effectiveness of mms mix
We have a video coming out that will show just how easy this is.
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08 Feb 2012 13:12 #11858
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Could you achieve the same effect if you use alkalized water. If you ex have the water with ph of 10 or 11.. would that remove the taste as well, and keep the same effect?
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08 Feb 2012 13:21 #11861
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hi Orv
What I have experienced is that all the droppers yield about the same and that being 25 drops is a little under 1 ml.
They all form close to same size drop. Some caps just take more carefulness in getting the drops to come out slow.
I just repeated the test with the snap closesure caps and carefully counted out 25 drops into a medical volumetric cylinder and got just under 1 ml
What we have just demonstrated is that if we measured everything we use in mils or teaspoons or in a volumetric way then we would be much more accurate in our measurements than with drops
This is precisely one reason why I recommended using 1/8 teaspoon baking soda instead of drops or so many pinches
What I have experienced is that all the droppers yield about the same and that being 25 drops is a little under 1 ml.
They all form close to same size drop. Some caps just take more carefulness in getting the drops to come out slow.
I just repeated the test with the snap closesure caps and carefully counted out 25 drops into a medical volumetric cylinder and got just under 1 ml
What we have just demonstrated is that if we measured everything we use in mils or teaspoons or in a volumetric way then we would be much more accurate in our measurements than with drops
This is precisely one reason why I recommended using 1/8 teaspoon baking soda instead of drops or so many pinches
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08 Feb 2012 13:35 #11864
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Bagalamukhi
This is a very good question. I have tested this with concern as many people now have alkaline water
in our reaction where we activate sodium chlorite with activator, the reaction is very ph critical of what products you yield.
For example if we use 4 oz distilled water ph 7 in a three drop dose we get a lower ph of final mix and one set of by products
if you use 4 oz of the alkaline water you mention with ph say 10 then you will get totally different ph final solution and totally different by products that will not give you what you were wanting
So if you want to use the alkaline water to raise ph after the activation step then you would need test strips and add it until you reach ph 5.2 but you should always use water close to ph7 to activate then buffer ph up slowly to 5.2
Anyone using high ph alkaline water to mix with their mms is getting a final mixture with much less chlorine dioxide ppm in it than Jim is recommending in his protocols and would most likely have a mix that is not strong in taste
This is a very good question. I have tested this with concern as many people now have alkaline water
in our reaction where we activate sodium chlorite with activator, the reaction is very ph critical of what products you yield.
For example if we use 4 oz distilled water ph 7 in a three drop dose we get a lower ph of final mix and one set of by products
if you use 4 oz of the alkaline water you mention with ph say 10 then you will get totally different ph final solution and totally different by products that will not give you what you were wanting
So if you want to use the alkaline water to raise ph after the activation step then you would need test strips and add it until you reach ph 5.2 but you should always use water close to ph7 to activate then buffer ph up slowly to 5.2
Anyone using high ph alkaline water to mix with their mms is getting a final mixture with much less chlorine dioxide ppm in it than Jim is recommending in his protocols and would most likely have a mix that is not strong in taste
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08 Feb 2012 13:57 #11865
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That seems complicated since you will not know how much water you need to add, and then you would have to measure again the single dosages..
does it has any relevance if you use distilled water for the process with the bicarbonate.. Is it just as good to use normal pure water?.. but to keep of course the ph at 7 when mixing.
Thanks a lot for your answers!
Thanks a lot for your answers!
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08 Feb 2012 14:04 - 08 Feb 2012 14:07 #11866
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Thanks, Dr. Ron - I think that where some of the confusion has occurred is that when Jim came out with the information that 25 drops = 1mL, people started measuring the drops from THEIR droppers - and some got 17, some got 20, etc. - and then there were those who were using the old blue/green bottles with flip caps, and sometimes the drops were huge, sometimes small, sometimes they wouldn't come off the cap until they came off all at once in a stream. I think that what you're seeing here is people who really want to be sure they are "doing it right" - We appreciate your patience, and your desire to make it as easy as possible. I think that at some point, everyone will be on the "accu-drop" or controlled drop bottles, and there will be no more confusion. (well, at least about drops, LOL) (Not to mention the fact that US measures are not the same as European measures in terms of drps ad teaspoons, etc. <sigh>)
Regarding my earlier testing strip question - did you all use the strips or the tabs (paper that comes in a roll)? I'm looking at Amazon and it looks like the roll ones (Hydron by MicroEssentials) or strips by Phinex are the majority of those offered.
I ask because I'm not on city water, I'm on filtered but untreated (has been tested) well water, so don't have the same issues - plus, I'd like to avoid distilled water if at all possible. So, this information will be of use to me.
Regarding my earlier testing strip question - did you all use the strips or the tabs (paper that comes in a roll)? I'm looking at Amazon and it looks like the roll ones (Hydron by MicroEssentials) or strips by Phinex are the majority of those offered.
I ask because I'm not on city water, I'm on filtered but untreated (has been tested) well water, so don't have the same issues - plus, I'd like to avoid distilled water if at all possible. So, this information will be of use to me.
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08 Feb 2012 14:09 #11867
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ok
you want to use pure water, distilled, RO, bottled any good water that has ph close to 7 when mixing with the activated mms
then if you need a better taste to tolerate mms and want to use something other than the 1/8 t baking soda and are wanting to use your alkaline water than you will have to get ph test strips and add it after activation and 4 oz the good water added until ph 5.2
you will not need to measure single doses again if you mix it up a quart at a time.
I think you might want to follow the instruction given and then just drink your alkaline water throughout the day.
each person should drink their weight in lbs divided by two in ounces of water a day. ie if weigh 200 lbs should drink 100 ounces water day
you want to use pure water, distilled, RO, bottled any good water that has ph close to 7 when mixing with the activated mms
then if you need a better taste to tolerate mms and want to use something other than the 1/8 t baking soda and are wanting to use your alkaline water than you will have to get ph test strips and add it after activation and 4 oz the good water added until ph 5.2
you will not need to measure single doses again if you mix it up a quart at a time.
I think you might want to follow the instruction given and then just drink your alkaline water throughout the day.
each person should drink their weight in lbs divided by two in ounces of water a day. ie if weigh 200 lbs should drink 100 ounces water day
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