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16 May 2012 21:17 #17291 by Fort
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Hi there!

As far as I now MMS2 has no problem at all when used with thuya. My wife avoided all forms of Vit. C and Ascorbic Acid, but we didn´t worry about the thuya at all. Also, from what I´ve read, MMS2 has a much higher tolerance with antioxidants. So you shouldn´t have any problems mixing thuya and MMS2 - at least from what I read and from my experience.

Spirulina, on the other hand, seems to have powerful antioxidant properties, so just to play safe, we always had a 2 hour break between spirulina doses and MMS2.

My wife was taking 5 capsules of thuya per day, along with Protocol 4000 (which we did for about 100 days) and aprox. 4 grams of spirulina.
Right now I can´t tell you the exact amount of thuya in terms of grams or miligrams because my wife is out of the country on a business trip, but she ´ll be back four days from now, then I´ll double check the exact amount.

Also, keep on using the topical spray. I have faith you´ll completely destroy your HPV :) Have faith too!

Love, Faith and Health to all of us!
Chris

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17 Mar 2014 08:01 #41480 by narutofox
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Hi, I'm new to MMS, I've read J. Humble book nr 1 and I'm finishing the second book...

I also have genital warts, In December 2013 I went to the doctor (dermatologist) and my warts were burned, had to put a cream for one month, but then the warts came back in February. I went to another dermatologist, he burned the warts again and suggested to do asap (now I'm abroad, in vacation) an HPC vaccination asap I'm back. Now I see that some small warts are back again. It's quite annoying.

My question is simple. Is it more efficient to go again to a dermatologist and ask to get the HPC vaccination, or try MMS1 (in my country I found a reseller that sells MMM1, see this link ) applied on warts + the protocol 1000 (I've read in a newer thread to try protocol 1000)?

I guess you will tell me to try MMS1, but honestly I'm a bit afraid and wonder what happens if I stop taking mms after a few months, will I be again vulnerable to HPC and get genital warts again if my immune system didn't kill the virus during the time?

Also how can I be sure that the virus is completely killed? Based on my experience I see that warts eventually come back about 1 month after burning them...

Thank you for your patience and kind answers to a newbie to this forum and mms.

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17 Mar 2014 13:07 - 17 Mar 2014 13:10 #41499 by Rev Ray
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Hi
Burning definitely WILL NOT kill the virus.
MMS WILL KILL the virus if YOU do MMS long enough.
Virus is killed by starvation. MMS kills the protein development virus need to survive.
Read up on Vaccines and see they promote disease not cure it.
If you know about PC1000 then you know it is a 3 week course and not months.

Your immune system is compromised, or warts would not grow.
Your root cause will not be addressed by burning or vaccine.
Root cause can be addressed using an antimicrobial/germicidal.

MMS is your best option.You will know the virus is gone when you feel better and no more warts appear.
Your body PH is low and allowing disease/warts to fester.
Up your PH (w/MMS) and the issue can not survive in an Alkaline state of PH.

See www.mmswiki and look for wart or skin protocols as well as PC1000.
Also Bath protocol, douche protocol to clear lymph system.
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17 Mar 2014 14:50 #41524 by fourfingerz
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Rev Ray wrote: Hi
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See www.mmswiki and look for wart or skin protocols as well as PC1000.
Also Bath protocol, douche protocol to clear lymph system.


Ray - he may have a little trouble doing a douche protocol :oops:

Try enemas instead

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18 Mar 2014 18:02 - 18 Mar 2014 18:03 #41640 by Rev Ray
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Andreas Kalcker talks about Warts at the 1 hr 14 minute mark

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01 Apr 2014 21:46 #42506 by narutofox
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Hello my friends,

thank you for your answers. I just started taking MMS as suggested in a blog post I've seen online, applied directly on the warts. In my case I used MMS1 + the 5% HCl hydrochloric acid activator, in proportion 2:1. First time I tried 10 drops mms1 + 5 drops of HCI. Waited 45 seconds and applied it (with a swap) on the warts. It didn't burn a lot, so after a few minutes I've put more. After a few minutes again. It begun to burn after around 25 minutes. Then I washed it off.

The next day (today) I could see that the warts had a browner color, so I guess MMS worked. Today I tried more drops: 15 drops + 8 drops HCI activator. It burned a bit, but not that much so this time I won't wash it off. After 30 minutes, still no pain, maybe my pain tolerance is quite good... I think MMS will burn only the parts that are infected and not the rest of the healthy skin... if not, then I guess it will burn everything when I wake up.

I tried also to drink the mms, yesterday evening. I tried 2 drops. Today I tried 4 drops (always activated).

Tomorrow morning I start the Protocol 1000. I prepare the bottle and bring it at work. Then I will divide the contents by 8 (I will measure each time I take it, I will draw a line on a glass I use, for about 1.25 dl).

Is it ok to use a bottle in aluminium , like this SIGG one?

I will do some research about food that is increasing the ph level, I think you guessed it right that my body is too acid. Probably too much meat and coffee. I want to start some juicing and reduce the crap I'm eating and replace it with healthier stuff.

Sorry for my newbie questions and if I wrote too much. I'm writing a log for myself to keep track of my results. I will share everything in the end of the process.

Cheers and thanks again for your kind support.

P.s. enema not for me, I'm a bit afraid to put stuff in my veins... I rather drink it...

...eventually I can use some DMSO but in the blog post I've linked at the beginning of this post it's listed a very strict security protocol, so I'm quite scared to use it (if I wear underwear in cotton, what happens, the material of my underwear will also penetrate in the skin?). Will check how it goes without it, or use a very small amount...

oh another thing, I noticed after drinking mms I feel awake (before taking it I was tired). MMS wakes me up... is this a typical "collateral" (positive) effect? I guess I don't need coffee anymore if I drink it every hour at work...

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01 Apr 2014 22:27 #42509 by fourfingerz
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narutofox wrote: Hello my friends,

thank you for your answers. I just started taking MMS as suggested in a blog post I've seen online, applied directly on the warts. In my case I used MMS1 + the 5% HCl hydrochloric acid activator, in proportion 2:1. First time I tried 10 drops mms1 + 5 drops of HCI. Waited 45 seconds and applied it (with a swap) on the warts. It didn't burn a lot, so after a few minutes I've put more. After a few minutes again. It begun to burn after around 25 minutes. Then I washed it off.

The next day (today) I could see that the warts had a browner color, so I guess MMS worked. Today I tried more drops: 15 drops + 8 drops HCI activator. It burned a bit, but not that much so this time I won't wash it off. After 30 minutes, still no pain, maybe my pain tolerance is quite good... I think MMS will burn only the parts that are infected and not the rest of the healthy skin... if not, then I guess it will burn everything when I wake up.

I tried also to drink the mms, yesterday evening. I tried 2 drops. Today I tried 4 drops (always activated).

Tomorrow morning I start the Protocol 1000. I prepare the bottle and bring it at work. Then I will divide the contents by 8 (I will measure each time I take it, I will draw a line on a glass I use, for about 1.25 dl).

Is it ok to use a bottle in aluminium , like this SIGG one?

I will do some research about food that is increasing the ph level, I think you guessed it right that my body is too acid. Probably too much meat and coffee. I want to start some juicing and reduce the crap I'm eating and replace it with healthier stuff.

Sorry for my newbie questions and if I wrote too much. I'm writing a log for myself to keep track of my results. I will share everything in the end of the process.

Cheers and thanks again for your kind support.

P.s. enema not for me, I'm a bit afraid to put stuff in my veins... I rather drink it...

...eventually I can use some DMSO but in the blog post I've linked at the beginning of this post it's listed a very strict security protocol, so I'm quite scared to use it (if I wear underwear in cotton, what happens, the material of my underwear will also penetrate in the skin?). Will check how it goes without it, or use a very small amount...

oh another thing, I noticed after drinking mms I feel awake (before taking it I was tired). MMS wakes me up... is this a typical "collateral" (positive) effect? I guess I don't need coffee anymore if I drink it every hour at work...


Do not use any metals in contact with MMS or derivatives. Use plastics - HDPE or glass. Keep the solutions out of sunlight (I keep it all in the dark except during dispensing). Refrigerate solutions that have been activated - Chlorine dioxide gasses off above 11 deg C .

Juicing is not recommended by Jim (and Mike Adams - the health ranger). Coffee will degrade the effectiveness of MMS - separate by 2 hours. Meat is recommended by Jim.

Thank you - do share!

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02 Apr 2014 07:31 #42541 by narutofox
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Hi, thank you for the replies.

Ok about juicing (yeha it would be nice if someone shares the post) probably I guess many fruits etc. contains vitamin C which makes MMS less effective? In the book I read to avoid taking vitamin C when taking MMS...
I will keep the juicing when I stop taking MMS after 1 month.

What happens to the MMS in an aluminium bottle?

Thanks and cheers,

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03 Apr 2014 04:27 #42577 by fourfingerz
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fourfingerz wrote:
Juicing is not recommended by Jim (and Mike Adams - the health ranger).


I apologize for the above statement regarding Jim's current position on juicing - I can find no proof that that is his opinion at this time.

I'm delusional enough to believe that reality will eventually catch up :lol:

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03 Apr 2014 15:05 #42606 by Gene51
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Hi Rev Ray,

Thanks for mentioning Dr. Max Gerson, who 75 years ago establish a good track record for curing cancer, diabetes, and many other ailments with fresh, raw vegetable juice. Likewise, a lady named Ann Wigmore ran a clinic for many years and was apparently able to cure every disease with nothing more than wheatgrass juice.

My belief is that all human ailments are caused by nutritional deficiencies. Most of the important nutrients the body requires are found in vegetables, primarily green, leafy vegetables such as kale, spinach, turnip greens, broccoli, cabbage, etc. I think if a person's diet consisted of nothing but kale, they would live to be 120 years old - and never be sick a day in their life. Vitamin C, Vitamin B9 (Folate) the mineral Sulfur are some of the most important nutrients required for good health, but they are denatured or destroyed by cooking - which is my explanation for why Americans are so sickly, and why MMS is so useful. Virtually all Americans are suffering from mal-nutrition, unless they take a big handful of supplements every day - or they drink raw vegetable juice.

The problem is that modern farming methods have caused the soil to be depleted of vital nutrients, so that a carrot or a tomato has less than half of the nutrition that it did 50 or 75 years ago. Even if you eat the recommended 5 to 9 servings of fruits and vegetables every day - you will still not be getting enough of certain vital nutrients. All of the nutrition in vegetables is in the juice, so by juicing one is able to consume more nutrition without all the chewing. A whole big bag of spinach can be reduced to just a small cup of juice, so it's quicker and easier to consume.

I'm not opposed to eating meat, and I'm sure I eat as much as anybody. But I eat meat because I like the taste, not for the nutrition. Most of the nutrients coming from animal sources is found in the organ meats - the liver, adrenal glands, pancreas, brain, etc. Eskimos eat mostly meat, and they stay healthy because they eat the whole animal - guts and all. For example, if you want Vitamin A from an animal - eat the eyeballs! Personally, I'd rather eat a raw carrot.

10 or 12 years ago, I was in pretty bad health - probably near death. This was before I'd heard about MMS, but I'd already totally lost all confidence is modern allopathic medicine. I bought a book on juicing, and gave it a try. In less than a month I was in perfect health, had lost about 30 pounds, and felt like I was 18 years old again.

The problem with juicing is that it's very hard to stick to it. It is rather time consuming to wash and prepare the vegetables beforehand, and a chore to clean up the equipment afterward. So you really need to be "motivated" to be a juicer over the long term. Fear of death is a good motivator, so cancer patients and heart attack victims are good candidates to become juicers.

Since vegetable juice has a lot of Vitamin C and numerous other anti-oxidants, it may be counter-productive to drink raw vegetable juice along with the MMS protocols. I would be more inclined to just let MMS do what it does best, clean out the system of pathagenic microbes and toxins, and then stop the MMS and start overcoming the nutritional deficiencies by eating raw vegetables (salad) or juicing. Juicing will definitely alkalinize the body, but you can also do that by taking sodium bicarbonate or even better would be magnesium bicarbonate, or potassium bicarbonate. I doubt these would interfere with the working of the MMS.
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