How to make CDS in only 3 minutes!

CLO2 wrote: Measuring concentration with an eXact Chlorine photometer showed the 300 ml of CDS to be 2700 ppm. Using a dilution calculator, that would be 810 ppm in 1000 ml.

Excuse me, and correct me if I'm wrong!
But if you measured 2,700 PPM in your solution of 300 ml, it doesn't matter if you have 300 ml or 30 ml or 1 ml of this solution! You will still read 2,700 PPM, unless you dilute the solution with something else.
It will still be 2,700 PPM per volume, or did I misunderstand some procedure?

CLO2 wrote: That is a good question. But, the dilution calculator gave the number I quoted. Tomorrow when I run the test again, I will add 700ml of distilled water to the 300ml of CDS and then measure the concentration. Will that work for you?

Ok, now it does!
It just didn't make sense that you would get a different reading with the same solution, just changing the quantity

Another way to look at this question is, if there was 1000ml of DW in the receiver, would the concentration be less than if there was 300ml? Seems like the amount of CLO2 gas generated depends on how much NaCLO2 & citric acid is in the reactor.

I am referencing concentrations of CLO2 to 1000ml for all my testing to eliminate one variable.

--Charlotte

It would just take more time to saturate, but in your case, you would still get your 2,700 PPM.
As I mentioned on the video, I get a full saturated gallon in 6 minutes.
I have tested up to 10 minutes, and there's just no change at all in color density beyond 6 minutes, with one full tablespoon of SC and CA.

BTW, what is your height above sea level? I am almost 100% positive that full saturation will be different to everyone, depending how high they are above sea level, due to atmospheric pressure.

And thanks for testing!

CLO2 wrote: Karl, I am 2500' above sea level. I would like to know more about concentration vs altitude. Let me know if you find out more.

Great!
I'm only about 100 feet above sea level, but I don't have any test strips on hand right now.
It would be great if anyone (volunteers? ) here at close to sea level do a test, and someone say up at Denver, Colorado (5,280 feet above sea level) could do the same test.

Yes, heating the reactor makes a big difference in the time it takes to release CLO2 gas.

Just keep the water below boiling point!

By the way, I forgot to mention that your idea of a small vent hole in the receiver cap must help with the concentration by keeping the escaping gas to a minimum, yet without the bang factor!

Thanks.

--Charlotte

Yes. Just a hole small enough to release pressure, but to keep some pressure inside to avoid gas from escaping too quickly.
Just use a "Bobby Pin (tm)" to poke the hole

Do you think these results would be the same if four tsp were used at one time? Seems to me a second receiver bottle should be in play

CLO2

Besides altitude possibly having an effect, also barometric pressure. The bp does affect cooking time and outcome.

I observed as having and using an ozonater, that the water needed to be chilled to "hold" on to the ozone prior to drinking it.

I just thought I'd toss that out FWIW. Because hearing how other things interact may help one to better understand the processes that are going on.

kw

As soon as I am up and running I shall help. I went to Wally World today looking for a glass baby bottle without success, just plastic bottles & nipples of unknown composition or strength.

Is it acceptable to use empty Commercial Water Bottles to use as both receiver and the solution activator container? I plan on using three 500ml Dasani water bottles(with DW) (two receivers, with one used as a solution host)...silicon tubing with a vent hole in the last receiver bottle(pin hole)...all silicon tubes sealed with silicon caulk and a small aquarium pump. Please advise your thoughts on this set up.

So, it looks like we have saturation variables of altitude, bp, and temp. I'm thinking that because CDS is so much easier to manage physically than the MMS, maybe it doesn't matter so much. I made my CDS by blowing thru the tube like Jim Humble did but with the heated reactor bottle and the cold receiver bottles x 3 in series like Andreas showed. (Next time will use a pump.)So I'm assuming 24000 saturation in the first bottle that did not get any darker after a while. I'm using it 1:1, CDS:MMS. In any case, I'm new to using CDS and am just thrilled with the results. Many chronic inflamations are clearing up in this first week. I'm on Protocol 2000 for a recurrance of a liposarcoma tumor on my scapular muscle. (Most women my age just tend to get fat...I have to go get fat cancer. That stinks!) I can see and feel the tumor area. The inflamation in the area is way down and the pain is almost gone. Hope to get an MRI soon that will confirm if there is any tissue still enhancing. If this tumor resolves as a result of using CDS, it's going to change the course of my life. At the very least, I will no longer have to mind that our medical system is such a mess. I'll just cure myself.

I purchased over twenty 4oz HDPE bottles for storage of products....I should have thought the whole process out and also bought some 8/16 ounce bottles as well. You know what they about hind sight.

CLO2 wrote: Welcome to the club! I received the third order of syringe needles yesterday to be used with CDI. The first two I ordered won't work.

--Charlotte

Could you further explain "won't work" in regards to syringe needles used with CDI?

I have yet to produce CDI (waiting for Andreas's book as drgreen has mysteriously vanished from the forum), but I will be. drgreen's experience with CDI would seem to indicate that injection is far more effective than oral ingestion.

I would also like to say that I'm very appreciative of your documentation of your investigative work. You're clear and concise, making repeat-ability very easily understood. I learn lots from your posts - thanks

OK THEN....3.7 grams of SC & CA in 3 tsp of DW run into a 300ml receiver run twice = 1000ppm

What went wrong?

25 drops of solution with 250 drops of DW for a 1 to 10 ratio...

unless something is VERY wrong this should be 6000ppm!


What if I went 1 drop to 10 drops...would that work instead of all the counting of drops and errors???


help please