Pain on 5th day

Good to hear from you BG!

If I was you I would give the MMS2 a try. It won't hurt to see what happens and it may be really good. The mechanism of action for the two MMSs is different so it may be easier on you. Plus, your kidney needs some serious support and both MMSs can only be good I think.

Just start with only a quarter capsule or even less if you want and just see how you feel.

Michael

Thanks Michael, will do just that tomorrow morning! Raising back to 3 drops P1000 too.

BG

Wow, Michael, you are right about trying MMS2 out.

I was on P2K/3Drops, and once I pop in a 3/4 capsule in the evening, I had a flareup (rusty urine) and nausea was moderate. Have mild ache and pain in BOTH kidneys and tract area just at the bladder.

Back onto P1K/3.

BG

Hi BG,

It is good you at least tried the mms2. 3/4 of a capsule is a pretty good dose. Bruce was saying he gets quite a benefit from just 1/4 capsule. If you run into too much pain on mms1 you could switch to mms2 and see if it helps.

You can also put a capsule or half a capsule of mms2 into a cup and a half of water and drink gulps of it periodically. That's how I take it. Follow with plain water or something else because it can be acidic.

Seems like to me your urinary tract was really in need of help when you started this, and it is a good thing you did. If you wait till there's a major malfunction then you need doctors to help you out of it sometimes. I think you are doing the right thing just going slow and keeping everything bearable. I think that is what Jim would say.

Plus your urinary tract (UT) is part of your detox/elimination system so it gets more work if the MMS is killing off other things in your system. The fact that you got that one stone out already proves that you are making good progress, and the best thing is just to maintain patience and do the best supporting your UT that you can do.

Thanks very much for the updates and feedback; everyone can learn that way.

Keep up the good work,

Michael

Hi Michael,

I'm off MMS for a few days now, and noticed there is still blood in urine when I have not enough to drink. Should I continue to pop vitamin C or continue with lower dosage of MMS?

There is no pain in the kidneys now, just mild discomfort in the UT.

Apart from taking lots of fluid, I am researching what else I should take as well.

I was wondering, since MMS2 is what the immune system produces naturally, and that Vit C is for helping it as well, can they be taken together?

BG

Vit C is needed to strengthen cell walls, connective tissues. It will help speed up the healing in your kidney. While you take a break from MMS, take elevated quantities of Vit C.

I don't know of any information that Vitamic C interferes or interacts with MMS2 - the active principal in MMS2, hypochlorous acid, is operating in the body all the time, and healing is generally positively affected by intake of Vitamin C. So, should be fine.

Vitamin C will neutralize MMS1/chlorine dioxide in the bloodstream. Not dangerous, but counterindicated. Take Vitamin C one to two hours after last dose of MMS1 for the day.

Thanks guys, for all the guidance and tips!

A little update again.

No visible blood now. Taking plenty of water. There is increased pain when urinating, at the base (more to the left) of the genital.

Really have no idea what this problem is exactly as it does not seem as simple as just the problem with kidney stones. Certainly some 'battle' is going on in my urinary system.

Existing Dosage:

- MMS2 1/4 capsule twice a day + Vitamin C (500mg)

Resuming:

- MMS1 on P2K/2Drops, so taking Vit C out.

I agree BG, it looks like there is just a battle going on in your urinary system. And based on the prior history that's seems to be your main area of weakness. The bleeding and the pains are symptoms of the healing battle that is taking place in that system. This is not unlike the people with heart palpitations from taking MMS and it's because that's their area of weakness where healing has to take place.

On the vit. C you can still take it at the end of the day 2 hrs after your last dose on hourly protocols. And you should not have any problem taking 2,000 mg. doses of the vit. C. My family has done a lot of mega dosing of vit. C for detox and healing. Most people can take 2,000 mg. every 2 hrs without reaching bowel tolerance (ie diarrhea) and then if you have something going on like the symptoms you are having, people can even take more and take that much every hour. My brother has even taken that much ever 15 minutes for hours at a time without reaching bowel tolerance when he was under major detox/healing stress or beating a cold.

Michael

Hi Michael,

Pain gone since this morning, and... another stone came out just a while ago!

That explained those pains...

Moving to P2K with confidence tomorrow!

BG

Edit: Btw, it is 7mm big. Ouch...