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Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 03:27 #2602

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Today is my 5th day on MMS1 with 3 drops/hr with the intention of a full detox. Just this morning, I woke up with pain in my lower left abdomen (localized) and has been with me since.

I read that I should be off the MMS until the pain goes off and to resume with reduced dosage.

I have issue with my urinary tract before, same side. Could this be a parasite?

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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 04:02 #2604

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Hi BG,

Maybe someone will correct me but I am not aware of pain being one of the reasons to reduce dosage. I guess if it was severe enough to be like diarrhea or vomiting then maybe it would indicate backing off. Or if it interferes with your work and you have to be able to function then maybe back off.

Pain could be many different things and you want to try to learn to listen to your body and your intuition. But in my experience with many detox therapies over the years and considering you are on day 5 of protocol 1000 which is pretty intensive, the pain is probably some kind of healing reaction, something that needs to happen. If it is too great, you can reduce dosage and slow it down or draw it out longer so it is not so intensive.

Could be die off of parasites/pathogens or detox from that area. Jim mentions in the book a few people have had heart palpitations and pain upon taking MMS and Jim says it is a healing taking place as bacteria infecting it are being killed off. What Jim says makes sense and there are alternative doctors specializing in detox/supportive therapies that will say things just like that as well. They may also confirm this view with muscle testing or biofeedback devices, giving it some measure of more objective validity.

I think it is a good sign and shows you are making progress with intensive healing.

Keep up the good work,

Michael
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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 12:08 #2607

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Hi Michael,

I really hope this is a parasite, because that will explain why I have been eating so much and still not gaining weight for so many years. =D

Here's an update:

I am typing this with high fever (37.6 Degree Celsius).

The pain is exactly where I used to have it and potentially bad enough to make me bed ridden. But this time, it is different; it diminishes as soon as I drink more water! Not completely, but enough to keep me restful.

Nausea is kicking in. So dropping it to 2 drops/hr instead of 3. Apple didn't quite help, perhaps because I didn't grate it as instructed.

Background of ailment:

Urologist claimed it to be kidney stone, but they were not able to identify the primary cause of the pain in my lower left abdomen. They only manage to X-Ray 'lots of gas' in that area. They never did diagnose me specifically, and I had to approach an 'underground' acupuncturist, who managed to relieve me of the pain within 2 sessions (and perhaps more than a couple hundred needles...).

So I guess this parasite/pathogen is resting dormant right there all these while, eating away at my nutrient intake.

I am positive, and not afraid. Will update on further changes. :lol:
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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 12:27 #2608

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Quick update. Blood in urine now, the kidney is trying to get rid of the 'bad blood'?

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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 15:57 #2612

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Hi BG,

I definitely think you body is using the support from the MMS to try and heal this problem. Especially since it is probably your main health problem at this time (as far as your body is concerned). This is just how healing flareups in gerson therapy work.

Once your body gets a steady supply of support via hourly MMS or hourly juices as in Gerson, then it launches into an assault on the illness/disease tissue/tumors. In my first gerson flareup my colon got extremely sore and in a day or two I passed some tumor like fleshy nodules out of my colon.

Blood in the urine is not so good. I think it is quite likely it is part of a healing flareup but you probably should try reducing MMS dose and see if it will help stop the blood in the urine.

The post menopausal woman I am helping with protocol 2000 for advanced cervical cancer has bled a lot from her female organs, and gerson says that can happen with flareups. Once I was with a missionary in the jungle who got hepatitis and blood in the urine was apparently a sign of that, at least that is what he said at the time, I was young and don't have all the details.

If I had blood in my urine in your situation, try to listen to your body and intuition, I would reduce dose or even stop the MMS to see if I could get the blood out of the urine. You need to find out if the MMS dose can be used to affect the blood in the urine.

Then the other thing would be to try and research more about what blood in the urine can indicate. You don't want to let it make you become fearful though so if that happens then just forget the research and just remain calm focus on supporting your body and let's just see what you need to do to get the blood out of the urine.

From what you have said about prior experience, the doctors don't know what is going on in your case. This is just how it was with me 15 years ago when I was in really bad shape. I tried 7 different doctors and these guys could not figure out what was wrong, and mostly I had gut pain. We are on our own with this stuff.

BG I think you are doing a good job with supporting your body. I am convinced the MMS cannot hurt you. But healing flareups will involve complications and blood in the urine doesn't surprise me as one that could occur. I would say treat it like it is vomiting and you want to reduce dose as much as necessary to get it to stop.

Please keep me posted; I'll be around all day.

You are in my prayers and healing wishes,

Michael
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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 21:15 #2622

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Hi Michael,

Thanks so much for the explanation!

Just woke up; fever gone, no more visible blood, minute residual pain. Just like you said, I think my body was trying to remove the dead organism.

The previous time I had blood in the urine was when I took a certain chinese medicine mixture (boiled) and a large stone passed out after that single 'rusty' discharge. Only this time, it was in larger quantity and fresher in color.

There was no pain in the discharge, so I was safe from tract infection.

The fever I had was not a bad one, in fact I felt comfortable with it. Just felt different from those sickly ones.

Steady as it goes, shall update here if there are any changes.

Wishing you well from Singapore! :)

BG
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Re: Pain on 5th day 17 May 2011 22:00 #2625

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Soooo glad to hear the good report BG!!!

All the way from Singapore too, isn't that neat. Sounds like a wonderful place.

Clearly that is the area where your body needs healing and I think the protocol 1000 is working beautifully.

You probably already know the immune system uses fever to kill off cancer and pathogens. The lady who is curing the cervical cancer takes MMS baths and sweats heavily for 3 hours following. I know they use thermal therapy in some of the alternative therapy hospitals for cancer too.

Wishing you continued and complete healing,

Michael
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Re: Pain on 5th day 18 May 2011 08:44 #2631

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Hi Michael,

I spoke too soon! After just 3 doses (2,2,1 drop <- pain slowly crept back), I was literally crawling around my room in agony for the entire morning (the kind of pain one gets from kidney stone). High fever shot back up. And pain did not go away even with water. Nausea was quite bad, too much water probably. This time, the urine did not show visible blood in the bowl but the accumulated pool indicated otherwise.

Just about an hour ago, the pain went away again. Fever down. Now still with some pain. In addition, my chest is experiencing a little pain too.

I think I need to really back off and take just 3 doses a day and start working back up to hourly again. The pain was unbearable though I have bee through worse...

Totally underestimated this parasite/pathogen! Once he comes out of my body, hopefully in one piece. I will have a good hard talk with it. :lol:

Well... Singapore is alright, just that we need to pay for almost everything (using the road, entering city zones, mandatory medical savings, etc.) Feeling safe to be away from the radiation fallout. But the food are mostly imported. Got to be extra careful now with our choice of food. :\
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Re: Pain on 5th day 18 May 2011 14:24 #2633

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Hi BG,

Here is what Jim says in the book about the heart palpitations cases,

Two people have called to say that after starting MMS, they noticed
heavy heart palpitations. Later, they called back to say that the
palpitations were gone. In my opinion, the palpitations were probably
an indication that bacteria that sometimes grow on the heart valves
were killed. The palpitations may have been uncomfortable, but if left
untreated, the bacteria could have killed the person at a later date.


I have heard the story from one of those people Jim is talking about, and because of the palpitations and pain that person thought for sure the MMS was harming him. But I think Jim was right. It seems like your fight against this parasite or stones is very similar. The hourly doses really are directly affecting it.

I do believe it is healing action, but it has to go slow enough to be bearable. Are you able to try MMS2? It may be more bearable. Also I wonder if you can use MMS1 baths or foot soaks and that might make a difference.

It sounds like the pain and blood in urine are both from the kidney on that side. We don't know if the pathogen/parasite being killed off is in the kidney or if it is elsewhere in the body and just the die off is stressing the already weak kidney too much. Kidneys are elimination organs so die off from anywhere will add additional burden to them.

In between MMS doses or maybe at night two hours after the last dose it might be good to find kidney supportive supplements to take. Vitamin C and other antioxidants if nothing else. I think there are kidney supportive foods too that could be taken any time of the day. Supporting the kidney like this should be very helpful.

I'll try to find more info on kidney support myself today.

Thanks much for the valuable feedback. It is all definitely showing a weakness that needs to be healed.

More healing wishes,

Michael
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