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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 14:51 #6477

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David, I began protocol 1000 for HIV on Friday. This will be my third day. I have been following the protocol closely, although I may have eaten too soon before doing a dose at dinner time the first day. I am seeing in the FORUM that it is advisable to wait at least 30 minutes after a meal. Jim says to eat an apple though if nausea occurs.

I began with 1 drop the first 2 hours. Then went to 2 drops the next hour. By the 4th hour, I was up to 3 drops with no nausea. Haven't had any effects at all yet, going into my third day. The doses turn yellow and have a strong chlorine odor, even after mixing with juice. I am mixing it with organic apple juice, no ascorbic acid added. The first 5 doses, I used a drink called NAKED, a green mix with spirullina and other greens. No ascorbic acid in that juice either, so I believe that I am following the protocol correctly. Perhaps the NAKED juice neutralized the mix? Clyde told me that he was using that brand of juice so I assumed it was alright.

I was just expecting some reaction but none so far. Keep in mind that I did complete a 5 day colon detox a week ago. I am taking my ARVS about an hour or more either before or after the doses. I will do a MMS bath this evening. Any comments or other suggestions?

I was planning on doing the protocol as Jim suggests. 3 weeks then maintenance dosing. You are saying here that it has taken '40 odd days, 3-4 months for others.
I am not sure at this point just how long I should continue with the protocol as I am not 'sick.' Everyone says to do the protocol until you are well. That isn't going to work for me as I really have no sick feelings from HIV. Just some stomach bloating and spleen swelling from the ARVs. I feel pretty good actually. Not at all like the people that you have been treating there with HIV who are most likely in pretty bad shape.

So, do you suggest that I do 3 weeks (including bath protocol when I can) and then maintenance doses every day (4-6 drops a day all at once, as Jim suggests in his book) and then wait several months to get lab work done and see how it goes? Keeping in mind that I am still taking the ARVs. Thanks.

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 16:12 #6481

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Hey Terry,

from my own experience (am poz too) I had no side effects during the protocol. But when i fisnished it after few months I started feeling very very tired without doing anything. Just a fatigue. But it went away in few days. And it happened again recently.

I didnt have nausae for three drops, tho i threw up after taking 7drops. But u dont need to take that much. Three drops every hour is enough. Dont expect to feel better if you r already feeling good. MMS for example makes me happy and energetic and I def feel it working. I used to have chronic kidneys inflamation (id get it at lest once in three months) it went away since i started MMS. Also, ive treated psoriasis which went extremely easily after protocol 100 has been finished. Psoriasis is inhereted and 'untreatable' skin disease which I had for 10 years and couldnt get rid off. But voila, mms did its job.

About spirulina, I have spirulina tablets and i know that they contain antioxidants, so check urs. (Vitamin C is an antioxidant thats why we are to avoid it) I take my spirulina tablets for the night since MMS stops working after one hour. so like that they dont clash.

Im sure David will have more to tell you, but im glad i can share my experience with you too.

Be well

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 16:53 #6483

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Hi Roze...thanks for sharing. Ya know. I may have neutralized the first day's doses when I used the spirulina to drink down the MMS. Rats. So, I am confused. Did you do the protocol for 3 weeks or longer? Your message wasn't clear in that regard as you said 'when you finished it after a few months you began feeling very tired.' Did you mean a few months after you finished the protocol you began feeling very tired?

Actually, I have felt sleepy a few times after taking a dose and I felt like I could sleep longer this morning even though I was in bed for 9 hours last night. Didn't sleep all that time as I am a light sleeper but still. Was tired this morning. Once I got up, I was fine.

I am noticing today that my skin color is flushed...more color than usual. That's about it. Thanks again.

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 17:06 #6484

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sorry if i was not clear enough. I did the protocol 1000 and after i finished it few months later i tarted feeling tired. And sometimes yes MMS makes you sleepy. Jim says in his book that some people may even fall asleep straight after taking mms. Its a sign that your body needs rest. In that case i try just lie down and sleep. Day or two after im back on track full of energy.

I did protocol approx 3 weeks. But if you do four its fine too. Im on a p[rotocol now again and ill do it for four weeks this time.
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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 17:15 #6486

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Thanks for the clarity. So, did you not feel that the first protocol got rid of HIV? Did you get tested for VL and or CD4 count afterwards? I don't want to have to take MMS the rest of my life. I am very curious about test results from people who have undergone the protocol. Or anyone who has been off the ARVs for a long period of time after finishing the protocol and still showing up undetectable. There doesn't seem to be much information in that regard from anyone. Sure would be helpful to know that is happening to folks. Thanks again Roze!

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 19:05 #6491

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You see the thing is that not so many people tend to speak about HIV out loud second thing you need a long period of time to get negative results. Maybe you'll never get hiv-negative because you ll always have antibodies for the virus in your blood (as you know the tests we have now are only testing for the antibodies not for the virus)..

After my first attempt to mms i did the blood test and my CD4 went up by 100. I didnt do VL that time. My next visit in end of this year.


You say u dont wanna take mms for the rest of ur life. Well u dont have to take it daily and it is not recommended so. You take it from time to time or you do the protocol when you r ill. Simple as that

This is only my opinion, but id rather be on mms for the rest of my life than on arv's thats side effects been proved and pictures of the arv's effects on human are easily accessible on the internet. But again this is just my sincere opinion, Terry.

Also, I highly recommend you tho purchasing Jim's latest book. He has got a great chapter on ARV's and what it does and does not.
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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 19:09 #6492

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Actually thats the info from the book . Take time to carefully read it. Cheers and be strong!


ARV stands for Anti-Retroviral.

Without getting too technical, these
drugs, of which there are many dozens, are supposed to keep the
viruses from increasing in numbers, or to at least hold their numbers
steady. In theory, they do this by poisoning the virus.

I have sitting in front of me a box containing a bottle of 60 ARV
tablets. The drugs included in this box are Lamivudine, Stavudine,
and Nevirapine. The brand name of the tablets is Nevilast. The box
also has the name of the government stamped on it, I guess to show
their approval and probably to show that they are helping to finance
these tablets. I bet you didn’t think I would give the name. I could
hope they would sue me in a court of law, as I can easily prove what I
say here.

Live Longer – 5 More Years or 49?
When the ARVs first came out, it was said that if you have HIV or
AIDS they would likely help you to live 5 years longer than if you
didn’t take them. After a few years, they began to say that these ARVs
would help you live 10 years longer. The drugs didn’t change; they are
the same. Then it was 15 years longer, then 24 years longer, and now
it is 49 years longer.

The drugs haven’t improved, they are the same. If you question the
medical doctors who prescribe these drugs about it, they say, well,
they have developed better ways of prescribing the drugs. Can you
imagine, if you get HIV/AIDS now at the age of 20, you can expect to
live to 69 years of age if you take thousands of dollars worth of ARVs
during your life? Wow, isn’t that amazing. Heck, I bet we all should
be taking them. The next logical jump in life expectancy will probably
be 100 years.

However:

• There isn’t one single long-term test to prove even the 5 years,
much less the 49 years.
It’s only the drug company’s “say so.” They made sure not to put a
single claim on this bottle in front of me, or say it anywhere in
writing, that the drugs make you live longer. There are a few tests
that show short term benefits to some of those tested, but none that
show long-term benefits. Can you guess why no long-term tests are
ever cited?

• All the long-term tests show that people die and they are not
going to cite tests that prove people die, thus no long-term
tests.

The doctors here in this country of Africa tell the local people that if
they don’t take these terribly poisonous drugs, they will die. The
doctors have nothing to back up what they are saying except the word
of the drug company sales people. But the drug companies do not
have any literature that says these drugs make you live longer. Why
should they stick their necks out when the doctors will do it for them?
Don’t take my word for it -- check it out on the internet. Search on
Google for such tests. Call the ARV companies and ask for the tests.
See what they say. I have.

Some Quotes From ARV Packaging

I want to quote a few things on this paper that is shipped with the
bottle. Under “Warnings and Precautions” on one of the lines it says:
• “Lactic acidosis/severe hepatomegaly with steatosis, including
FATAL CASES, have been reported. [my emphasis]

Then it says:

• “A majority of these (fatal) cases have been in women.”
The words “majority have been in women,” tells us there were also
male fatalities.

Now look on down the page. After naming 20 or so different diseases
that can occur in people taking this drug, it says:

• “Severe, life-threatening skin reactions, including FATAL
CASES, have occurred in patients” (taking these drugs). [my
emphasis]

And then, in one other place on the front page, after naming some
more diseases that have occurred, it says,

• “Severe or life-threatening hepatotoxicity, including FATAL
fulminant hepatitis has occurred in patients treated with
Nevirapine.” [my emphasis]

On the back of the page is listed pancreatitis, hepatitis and liver
failure plus diarrhea, malaise, fatigue, headache, nausea, vomiting,
abdominal pain, neuropathy, arthraigia, myalgias, skin rash, pruritus
… and the list goes on and on for what would be a full typewritten
sheet. It includes a couple more FATAL case warnings that have
already occurred.

And yet, they have not written anywhere that this drug can give you
49 years or even 5 years more life than you would have if you don’t
take it. But the salesmen say it, and the magazine writers say it, and
the doctors say it. They don’t put it in writing because they can’t
prove it, and there are no studies proving it. But they can certainly
pay writers and doctors to give an opinion that HIV cases will live
longer with these drugs. The studies cited are such things as a group
of scientists spending months examining 43,000 HIV cases where the
patients started taking ARV drugs at different times in the progress of
their disease, and they have:

• “… come to the conclusion, and they have estimated after
examining all these HIV/AIDS cases that a 20 year old can
live to be 69 years old by taking ARVs.”

That’s just these scientists’ say so. There is no other proof. There are
no clinical trials or tests showing that, but I’ll tell you there are a lot
of local AIDS patients dying right here right now.

Can you see any possible sense in believing that this tremendously
poisonous drug that has already killed hundreds of test cases and has
given all those diseases I listed above, and another hundred diseases I
didn’t list, will enable one to live 49 years longer?

In the last 35 years that ARVs have been available, they have not been
improved. There are no tests saying any of them make you live
longer. Some of the doctors may have been duped, and others just
don’t care. But the fact is, these drugs are killing people by the
thousands in Africa and in the rest of the world. As in the world of
cancer, people step up and say, “Kill me, please Doc.”

Here is another warning that a drug company gives about its ARV.
• “Patients should be informed that KALETRA is not a cure for
HIV infection and that they may continue to develop
opportunistic infections and other complications associated
with HIV disease. The long-term effects of KALETRA are
unknown at this time.”[my emphasis]

Exploiting the Gullible

Have you ever wondered why millions of people walk into their
doctor’s office and say, “Yes, go ahead and operate, Doctor. I
understand there is less than a 3% chance that I will live 5 years after
the operation, but that is better than no chance at all.” And in the U.S.
alone, a million people do that each year without ever checking what
other options are available. In 90% of the cases you will have a 10%
chance if you do absolutely nothing.

That’s been happening for 100 years, and then along comes HIV,
created by U.S. labs and spread worldwide by WHO (World Health
Organization), and the same thing is happening. Yes, doctor, let me
take those extremely poisonous ARV drugs that have been killing
hundreds of people and keeping thousands of others sick with dozens
of different diseases, because I know that they will keep me alive for
49 more years.

How crazy is that? Well the answer is that those whose greed is so
strong that they cannot control their desire for money prey on the
gullible. They are evil beyond anything this world has ever seen
before.

Here in Africa, the drug companies take billions from the
governments and thus from the people as well, while killing those
they are supposed to be helping. WHO has convinced all these
countries here, except for one or two, that these ARVs are beneficial.

On the other side of the coin, there are hundreds of research papers
showing that vitamins and protein and other nutrition can make a
person with HIV/AIDS live longer – that enhanced nutrition can
increase the HIV/AIDS life expectancy by many years. So if people or
doctors or clinics were to follow the actual research papers that have
been published worldwide, they would have to quit using ARVs and
give vitamins and minerals and other nutrition to HIV patients. This
would save governments a lot of money and really help some people.
Of course, we use MMS, which acts much faster and more completely
than vitamins.

Missing Test Reports

Do you get it? There are hundreds of scientifically conducted tests
proving nutrients of various kinds can make HIV patients live longer,
and there are absolutely no scientifically conducted placebo
controlled tests reported anywhere proving that ARVs increase life
expectancy even 5 years, much less 49. And yet the doctors push the
ARVs. Someone is being paid off. I wonder who.

Let me mention here that the missing test reports showing that ARVs
have caused anyone to live even 5 years longer are not the only
missing reports. Can you imagine that there is not one shred of
evidence that ARVs extend life at all? Yet billions of dollars are spent
on ARVs.

Other missing reports are scientific papers showing that there is such
a thing as HIV. A complete search of the internet and scientific
libraries brings to light no scientific papers showing the HIV virus
has been isolated.

• The fact is that no one has ever proved that an HIV virus
exists.
There are laboratories that offer a cash gift if someone can find such
reports. The world has been ripped off one more time.
Further, there are no scientific papers showing that an AIDS virus has
been isolated – because it has not.

What Causes HIV?

Well, it’s the ARVs, of course. There are 25 immune deficiency
diseases that the CDC in Atlanta (Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention) declares are now HIV diseases or that they lead to HIV
(there may be more than that now). If you have any one of them, you
are considered to have HIV and you are started on ARVs if your CD4
count (white blood cells) is below 400. If is not below 400 there is
nothing they can do for you, they say. So they wait until your CD4
count drops below 400 and then they start you on ARVs.

Gonorrhea and syphilis can lead to HIV, they say, so they start you on
ARVs. Actually, most of those immune deficiency diseases were easy
to handle in the past, before HIV, but now if you have one of them,
you are declared to have HIV. So nothing is done for you until your
CD4 count dips below 400 and at that time you are prescribed ARVs.

You are not given a choice, and thus the poisonous ARVs slowly kill
you, while the drug companies collect your insurance and other
monies.

Do you see the sequence to HIV and then to AIDS?

1) If you have any of a number of immune deficiency diseases
which were usually treatable before, now you are no longer
treated.

2) Because they claim nothing can be done for you, they simply
wait, giving you nothing, until your white blood count dips
below 400.

3) Then you are started on the ARVs.

4) The ARVs then slowly make you worse until your white blood
count dips below 200 in the U.S., or 100 in Africa.

5) Then you are declared to have full-blown AIDS.

In my opinion it is the most sinister, evil thing ever foisted on
mankind.

What can MMS do about ARVs?

Well, it appears that MMS neutralizes the ARVs right in the body. We
have more than 800 people who have completed the MMS HIV/AIDS
Protocol, in other words Protocol 1000. What we have proven so far
is that in this first 800, the ARVs do not stop MMS from working. All
800 people have tossed off their health problems and are back to
normal or above normal. Heart problems are gone, cancers gone,
liver problems gone and dozens of other normally untreatable
problems gone, and they are still taking ARVs.

Out of the 800, only one or two quit taking ARVs. The doctors have
the rest convinced that they will die if they quit taking them. In all
those who have had a CD4 count done (white blood cells), the count
has gone up to at least normal. Typically, the ARVs make one feel
bad, but those taking MMS are not feeling bad.

I really hate to alert the drug companies to what we are doing, but
this is the only way I can get the information out to the world. Mostly,
the drug companies won’t believe it anyway.

MMS Neutralizes the ARVs

We don’t have the millions of dollars to prove these things, but the
evidence is pretty sure. So let’s extrapolate a little. The particular
kinds of poisons they are using are very complex. Drugs are all very
complex. These poisons don’t hold up in a very oxidative
environment. It is my opinion that MMS must be destroying the
poisons, else why would people get well and regain their health in
such a short period as three weeks while still putting tremendous
poisons in their bodies?

What holds the drugs together (or any complex molecule) is of
course, electrons. Electrons hold all the composition of matter in the
universe together. Oxidizers “steal” electrons away from molecules,
thus destroying their structure. Chlorine dioxide is an oxidizer that
itself is destroyed when it steals electrons, but it can steal more
electrons than other oxidizers in the human body.

• A molecule of chlorine dioxide can destroy up to 5 molecules
of other substances.
That is, for example, more than twice what oxygen can do, and
chlorine dioxide can penetrate much deeper into the tissues to do it.

Of course, it’s only my opinion that MMS is destroying the ARVs, but
something has to be happening, as over 800 people who were taking
both MMS and ARVs are now well and feeling good. They have had
their complaints investigated by their doctors in the local hospital.

It is agreed that they are well. We have the reports. It says on the ARV
box or the paper slip that ARVs will not correct opportunistic
diseases, yet these diseases are gone in people who take MMS.

So the next extrapolation is that I expect MMS to destroy the toxins
in vaccines, while killing the diseases that are also buried there. There
is no room here to tell you the terrible things they are doing to the
vaccines, but you can investigate it yourself if you wish. Just do an
internet search and of course read the next chapter on Vaccines.

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More from Jims Book....

"""The ARV drugs that most HIV/AIDS patients are using also
do not seem to prevent MMS from working. The people get well and I
consider that amazing, as these drugs are the most poisonous thing a
person can take that does not kill him immediately.

So the thing to do is get people to stop taking the ARVs.

But that can be dangerous in some cases, as ARVs are not something you can fool
with much.

It would be best to wait until they have finished the HIV protocol or until they have been taking MMS for 4 or 5 days. At that time, they can easily stop the ARV drugs.

ARV drugs are killing a lot more people than HIV."""

Above info is from Jims Book and here below are other sources reinforcing what Jims has been saying if you would like second opinions.........

Those who are already awake to the sad fact, it all comes down to population control, our own leaders are killing us

ARV Facts Facts about Antiretroviral Drugs

"ARV" is short for antiretroviral drugs. This class of highly toxic chemicals is promoted by the drug industry to patients with HIV-infections as "life saving."

In this effort, the drug industry is using an army of lobbyists, including celebrities and even politicians, some of whom may not be aware of the scientific facts: none of these drugs has ever been shown to cure either HIV or AIDS and they are not allowed to be sold as a cure. Moreover, these toxic drugs are known to attack the immune system of patients and eventually destroy it.

This website documents extracts from the "patient information leaflets" of these drugs, as published by the drug manufacturers themselves.

Find out more about ARV damage to:

* Immune system
* Brain
* Heart
* Kidneys
* Liver
* Muscles
* Newborns
* DNA

Deadly Side Effects of ARV Drugs

Personally I would never recommend ARV,s and other deadly medications offered by modern science, would highly suggest you look into fruit and salads and more fruit and salads and vegetables, nutrition is the key to health and end of disease, your body does it just with correct diet is my belief, at least you will stop poisoning yourself from your current diet if you are on anything like an American diet lets call it and ARV,s.... GO RAW!!!! EAT TO LIVE

More interesting reading....

LIBERATING AFRICA FROM PHARMACEUTICAL COLONIALISM ARV Drugs as Strategic Tools to Cement the Political and Economic Dependency of Africa and the Developing World Exposure of the Drug Multinationals’ Chemical and Psychological “War on Africa” As Key to Terminate Pharmaceutical Colonialism

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 21:26 #6500

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Roze,

Thank you. I have just finished reading Jim's latest book. Thanks for sharing your own story with me as well. I guess the question remains whether people are really cured of HIV in the long run. I'll have to find out for myself. I understand that the antibodies usually remain for a long time, if not forever. However, I figure if I stop the ARVs at some point after the protocol and my CD4 count continues to rise, as well as my VL stays undetectable, which it is right now, that will be a pretty good indication that the virus has been extinguished.

I just had lab work done (both CD4 and VL) last Friday. Began the protocol that afternoon. Will get lab work again sometime the end of January or beginning of February...doctor's request. I am hoping that by then the protocol will have boosted my CD4 count. It's around 400 right now. And perhaps, hopefully, the spike in VL from the MMS will have leveled off a bit so the test results don't freak the doctor out too badly. HA!

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Re: HIV/AIDs current protocol by Jim Humble 16 Oct 2011 21:28 #6501

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Good luck Terry!

Dont forget VL may be spotted even in those who do not have the virus and who test negative :))) how bizarre it is!

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