Opulence's Herpes Testimony

Below is one of several posts I found about Bervin. I know fraud when I see it and this is one.

"What Mr. Jackson has discovered is a way to get you to test positive via PCR Blood Testing. By oxygenating your body for 1 — 3 weeks, your body will build its immune system. This is VERY TRUE and I don’t disagree at all. However, PCR blood testing is VERY unreliable for herpes, as it only will come out positive when the virus is ACTIVE. PCR SWAB testing is very reliable, as it tests actual viral substances and gives a clear diagnosis between HSV1/2. Herpes is not a blood born virus."

So, you're saying that a DNA PCR swab test is a better test than DNA PCR blood test to determine whether you still have it or not due to actual viral substances.

Questions: Are these actual viral substances permanent markers of HSV1 and HSV2 picked up in the PCR swab test? Will these actual viral substances decline over time (similar to anti-bodies declining over time) if you have undertaken a protocol and think you have eradicated it - not experiencing any outbreaks?

If yes, than this test would be a better test to confirm or deny having it...at least better than the PCR blood test with the hiding in the nerves/spine/dormancy issue.

IMHO I still believe that the issue of potential claims of fraud on different protocols being offered out there would go away if anti-body tests were taken in 60-90-120 days time period to verify if it has been eradicated.

A PCR swab is better than a PCR blood test IF there is a sore present and the swab is taken within 48 hours. The reason being is the sore will contain viral particles for the PCR to detect. That is what a PCR does, it detects the DNA of pathogens.

HSV is not always in the blood as it hides in the nerves when latent. I agree with Research retest 60-90-120-150 etc days after you think HSV is gone and see if the antibodies fall/drop or die off as in the same way a tetanus or Hep vaccination wears off over time.

It seems to me that what is better than any medical test is to challenge yourself with things you know will cause outbreaks. My friend who had herpes for 20 years knew exactly what would cause him outbreaks.

After doing Bervin's 7 day protocol and getting his neg. PCR, he then spent 30 days doing challenges every single day. He did maximum workouts every day and those would ALWAYS cause outbreaks in the past. Some days he also ate chocolate or other things he knew would always cause outbreaks.

He had NO OUTBREAKS during these challenges. If that is not a cure, then what is?

Listening to someone arm chair critic speculate about the efficacy or inefficacy of various medical tests is a waste of time. Talk to the people who did the protocol or try it yourself and then report on it.

Opulence was also very happy to be rid of her herpes. I have not kept in contact with her, but I have kept in contact with my friend and his cure is lasting, 6 months now. No doubt reinfection is possible, but obviously he did eradicate it with Bervin's protocol as proven by actual experience and blood test.

Michael

I will say it again.

It is still possible to test negative with a PCR though the virus is still latent. A PCR will always test negative if there no HSV in the blood at the time of testing

I just want people to be aware of that fact, for themselves and those they are intimately involved with.

I'm not here to rubbish MMS, I am truly an advocate

I agree with Delite...Why not get the anti-body tests?

I know people can make money by recommending a DNA PCR blood test - because of the fact HSV 1 & 2 are NOT blood born diseases and does go dormant. I'm repeating myself as I've said before that this is a good first step, but you need an anti-body test or spinal tap test to confirm a negative result.
Why not initially take a PCR blood test and a few months later do anti-body tests - looking for fall off in the levels of anti-bodies? or if positive then hit it again with mms protocol?

Cost of anti-body testing over 3-6 months? a few hundred dollars even $500 is a small price to pay for the knowledge that you are absolutely negative. Heck, anyone battling this thing has spent well over this amount in supplements and/or prescriptions trying to control it.

I don't know anyone who wants to even take the chance of passing this horrible thing on to anybody.

As far as doing things to provoke obs, I can attest to this as this is what I've been doing for the past few weeks after completing protocol 1000+ - I also continue taking mms 1 and mms 2 sprays although at a reduced level.

I've had chocolate, nuts, coffee, a couple of beers, workout by running 2-3 km every other day, things that would usually trigger obs and I'm pleased to say that the typical feeling I used to have - prodome, lower back pain - is greatly reduced and I haven't had an ob but does that mean i'm cured? I don't know unless I take a test which I plan to do within a month. I'd like to get to the point where i don't feel anything after haivng these things, then I'd be truly confident.
I will continue doing this testing process and hopefully take a PCR blood test followed by a few antibody tests over the next 60-120 days.

Research, please keep us informed about your further Antibody tests.

Personally, I actually think antibodies will take a lot longer to fall, maybe years. Just like vaccinations last a few years then you need another shot or a booster.

The thing with PCR is that you can have many negative PCR's over time cos if you live a healthy lifestyle the virus will just sit there in your nerves.

What would be really helpful is if people took a PCR before AND after a MMS protocol. Would people be easily convinced that they are 'cured' using MMS if both the before and after(MMS protocol) PCR blood test is negative?

Also, some people dont have symptoms or may have mild symptoms they dont even realise they are having an out break.

I think you have to exercise caution with all of this.

Do you want to believe you are cured, when you may be still infected? I would not. For women of child bearing age, would you wanna believe you are 'cured' only to have an OB during labor with the possibilities of causing blindness to your child and/or any other complication HSV causes babies?

Research, how long were you taking your protocol for? I know you are doing a maintenance now.

And as for the cost, yeah its expensive, but can you really put a price of your health.

Hi Delite,

I generally agree with your observations.

However, i will continue to blast away at it with mms2 spray and mms/dmso. Been on protocol 1000+ since June 18...last week i've reduced the amount of doses to 4-5/day and use mms2 spray.
On the 3rd week i began feeling very bloated as if I was full of taking mms/dmso - couldn't stand the taste - again, etc. and backed off a little, then ramped up again when that feeling passed.

I'm still optimistic and you know where i stand with testing. If i get a negative with PCR blood test than good but i'm really trying for a negative antibody test - falling antibodies < .90 - no matter how long it takes. Don't forget i've been taking mms on an off for 3 years, although without dmso and mms2 sprays/baths.

Any woman - childbearing age or not - should take it very serious because i've heard (anybody with any documented proof feel free to add) that hsv settles in/damages the organs (liver/kidneys) over time...this is not something to look forward to.

Hi Mike, look at link please I got swallowed eyes- not sure what to do+ what that means-
please need help

many thanks

www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=11&id=21347&Itemid=66

Fruit Tree,

If i may add something...
Have you been diagnosed with herpes?

herpes does and can infect the eyes and skin around the eyes...along with other organs in the body.
it also shows up on skin around the nose, mouth, ears and neck (front and back) area.
A classic "sympton" of herpes on the skin around the eyes is a "raccoon effect" (darker) appearance...people with herpes have this develop without using mms.

I have read that a doctor who is developing a vaccine has an associate working on a vaccine for herpes in the eye (ocular). Not sure if this will help with skin issues caused by herpes.
herpesvaccineresearch.com/

IMHO perhaps the citrus acid is causing this irritated (red skin) and swollen condition. The mms works at killing pathogens so maybe it's stirring up the virus as it dies off...who knows?

I would cut back on the amount of drops you are using in your spray....and maybe add some aztec clay as JH says to see if this helps.

Just trying to assist here.