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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 08 Feb 2012 23:46 #11926

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It is a bit tricky because a teaspoon is a measure of volume. The easiest conversion into a metric volume is 5 ml for a teaspoon and 15 ml for a tablespoon. Our cups (8 ounces = 1/4 of a US quart) are around 225 ml, while Europeans use a "metric cup" which is 1/4 of a litre = 250 ml.

As it happens, the relative density of granulated salt and sugar (which includes the "empty space" between grains) is very close to 1, so that 5 ml of salt and 5 ml of sugar are both equal to 5 grams (roughly 1/6 of an ounce in weight); this makes a tablespoon equal to roughly half-an-ounce (in weight), at 15 grams.

If you want to be super-accurate, you would have to use the more precise value of 1.154 for the relative density of bulk granulated salt, so that 5 ml would weigh 5.77 g.
If you had a block of pure Sodium chloride (NaCl) and managed to carve out a "spoonfull-shaped" piece of exactly 5 ml in volume, it would weigh 10.83 g.

These values are for "dry" salt. Granulated table salt rarely remains pure in a kitchen shaker. It takes up moisture from the atmosphere (especially if it is kept near the stove) and the water molecules find room between the molecules of salt, so that wet table salt has a slightly higher density than dry table salt. So, lets say that, at most, a teaspoon of granulated table salt could weigh as much as 6 g.

1/2 a teaspoon = roughly 3 g (or closer to 2.85 g for extremely dry table salt)
1/4 of a teaspoon = 1.5 g (or 1.42 g)
1/8 of a teaspoon = 0.75 g = 750 mg (or 710 mg if you are using extremely dry salt)
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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 08 Feb 2012 23:56 #11927

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these are some nice calculations, not sure what they explain as we are working with sodium bicarbonate not sodium chloride as your data is based on salt

one US teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate or baking soda weighs 5.9 grams and one eighth of teaspoon weighs .74 grams

so it is simple to either use 1/8th US teaspoon or .74 grams or simply add to protocol 1000 mix until ph is 5.2 or in range 5 to 5.5

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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 01:00 #11934

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Thanks to both Dr. Ron and Charlotte - Testing strips sound like a good idea -

Dr. Ron, the whole
"pinch, dash" etc. spoon sets actually have been calibrated to measurements - the tiniest is 1/64th of a teaspoon, which would be an eighth of an eighth of a teapoon.

But I'm going to get testing strips myself - I got sorta attached to them when doing the CDS calibrating <G>.

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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 03:20 #11951

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Maybe Charlotte Arm and Hammer baking soda measurement in volume and weight is different to ?????? brand.

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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 04:12 #11954

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Charlotte

your results are interesting. it is possible for us both to use 1/8 t and the weights to be different and the ph to be in the target ph range of 5 to 5.5

my 1/8 teaspoon here in usa yielded ph 5.2 and jim's 1/8 teaspoon in dominican yielded ph 5.2

Please let us know what ph your tests show when you get your test strips

the target ph is 5 to 5.5
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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 08:31 #11962

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Charlotte, woofy
the difference between soda batches is in their granulometry, i.e. the size of grains (crystals) and the size distribution of grains. The weight of the same volume of large grains is different than the same volume of smaller ones. Mixture of various grain size weights more as monodisperse one, as the smaller particles can fill the volume between the larger ones. Another factor is the shape of particles. The only way how solve this problem is to weight 1/8 teaspoon of your baking soda at least the first time. Tomas
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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 09:14 #11965

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Not to mention that UK teaspoons and US teaspoons are a whole 1mL different in size. So, charlotte, really looking forward to your information - I have dithered about getting strips, will do that tomorrow.
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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 11:57 #11973

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Charlotte

we are looking for final ph to be in range of about 5 to 5.5

our testing yielded results that 1/8 teaspoon will put you in the center of that range and also allows for the variations that have been discussed

Your new ph test strips will help to see where your baking soda 1/8 t is. Find the volume that works for you and then you will not have to weigh it out each time

Iim Humble and I observed same ph results using two different soda brands. Good luck with your testing
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Re: Welcome from Dr Ron Neer DDS 09 Feb 2012 12:02 #11974

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Pam

our tests used US teaspoons. Jim and I got same ph results with two different soda brands.

To avoid weights everyone should use the volume of measurement that they have available that yields for them a PH range of 5 to 5.5

Happy testing
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