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I have been reading protocol 2000. Before I bought my size 3 capsules, I thought I read somewhere that the updated capsule size was #4, (store didn't have that size so I bought size 3) and I have not been able to find that discussion. Does anyone know if this is correct? Also, I am not sure if my dog is in "life threatening situation". But I would rather err on the side of using 2000 to be sure and I have all of the ingredients.

His appetite is good, he is not lethargic etc. He has a large tumor on his side which we believe is cancer as he had a tumor removed a year ago, vet said it was obviously cancer - he did not test it he just said it was obvious, so I am assuming this is cancer.

I am wondering if I should keep him on protocol 1000 for a couple of weeks and see how he does (he is up to 1 drop dose/hour and I will go to 10 hours today - he seems ok), then go to 2000 if no improvement? I was reading that is a way to go as well. I don't have an issue going to protocol 2000, just wondering about the capsule size. I am sure I can use what I have but if the protocol changed to the smaller capsules I want to be sure to be correct with dosing,

Thank you in advance.

I would presume one would shave off any hair over the tumor area down to skin? Who knows what DMSO might find in hair and drive it into the skin and below.

I am uncomfortable using dmso. I did do more research and it seems that the blindness that occurred was with dogs that were treated "regularly" whatever that means. I would like to become comfortable with and use the dmso. I have 99% and I understand that has to be diluted to 70/30.

My other concern is handling it. I could put it in a small spray bottle and spray it on the tumor, or just an area of skin on it, I don't think I have to shave the whole thing. I don't want to touch the dmso to rub it into his skin as it will also penetrate my skin and can carry anything from my hands, or gloves (they say not to use rubber or latex - what else is there) into his body.

I did some research on dmso when I first heard about it on the cancer tutor website, there are so many precautions to be taken with dmso - it scares me, I also read that there can be a very strong odor emitted from the body when using dmso or applying it (not exactly sure of the context at this time, I read it months ago and dismissed its use) and I would not be able to smell it, I am in close contact with people with my work.

I would love to hear from anyone here who is using dmso or have used it and if they have experienced any of my concerns. I would appreciate any methods of applying without issues.

re:mms2, the protocol 2000 says mms2 MUST be added on day three and yet here I see it is recommended after getting to 3 drops per hour/I like that better and will wait a week or so, thank you RevRay? Also, it says to give as many drops as someone can take (for cancer) = no 3 drop limit/what is the thought on that - I think 3 drops/hr should be enough for a dog?

Thank you, Penny

Hi Penny
I just posted an article on DMSO from CancerTutor.com
DMSO The Magic Bullet.
Spray will wrk. Use CDS for spray if not using DMSO.
Use DMSO with CDH or MMS.
Do not worry about your hands.
Do not use gloves.
No trong odor have I ever encountered.
Worst case is a garlic smell, not offensive, not over powering.

The drops per hour, yes, well things change and here on Forum is the latest and greatest info as well as test mules etc.
You may get results faster with more, and results may take longer with less drops per dose but either way you will get results.

If you could post the blindness info I'd like a read.

There are warnings if you DON"T use DMSO...
like MMS will work but not as fast.
Read the Magic Bullet article if you have time.
I felt it was worth posting.

RevRay, I don't see the article, but I can go to thecancertur no problem.

What did you mean when you said use cds for spray if not using dmso? will this penetrate as well as with dmso?

The cancertutor is where I first learned about dmso, and hence I did a google search about it because of the precautions they talked about. That search is where I read about it causing blindness in dogs, only dogs. I will have to check my bookmarks and see if I saved that particular article, if you google it, you will find pages that talk about it. I have recently only seen where it talks about it happening with dogs with "regular" use.

Because of that I dismissed the use of dmso. My dogs are Australian Shepherd mixes and Aussies tend to be sensitive to some things other breeds use without issue.

I have decided that because there are those of you on this forum that have used the dmso to go ahead and use it. I will have to find step by step instructions. I am thinking a spray won't work because I am not using enough to get into the spray tube - any clarification or direction to read clarification here? and that tube is a plastic - no concern there?

Anyway, Thank you RevRay for easing my concerns about using dmso as I am sure this will be very beneficial to my dog and once I use it, my concerns will be eased.


One more question as my doses are going to two drop/hour today.

On protocol 2000 (as many drops as can handle). Is the max dose for dogs 3 drop/25lbs which would mean for my dog 9 drops per hour max - even on 2000? A week to 10 days on 1000 before adding mms2 is my plan - any thoughts both dogs seem to be handling well so far. What about when I add the dmso and cdh directly on the tumor - does that count as a portion of a dose - do I lower the drop/hour when I do that?


How did you get the animals to drink the necessary 6-8 oz. water with the mms2 bi hourly/10 - (12 hrs on 4000)? I am planning on giving the water first and if he drinks it I will give the mms2, but if he doesn't I can't give the mms2. 6-8 oz. is a lot of water for a dog especially 5-6 times a day, even with a broth - this dog could care less about a broth he is not food driven. will food/water mix with lesser amount of water work? I will do the best I can and get as much in him as possible - because I am also dosing the cdh with 15ml water/baby food mix 10x day and that gets hard to get him to drink toward the end of the day. Just thought asking ahead of time from those with experience will help me have more success.

a side note, I left my dosing bottle out of the refrigerator for 11 hours, I am sure temp went to 66 degrees, can I use this for anything? I put it back in the refrigerator -- maybe in the water bowls? My cat?


Thank you. Penny.

OOPS, my mistake 1 drop per 25lb my dog 75lb max 3 drop per hour as in protocol 1000. More for 2000?

RevRay, I am making cdh. what about that with dmso instead of mms1. I am thinking less irritation at delivery site?

Hi Penny,

I think the consensus is that CDS is best on skin and can be used with or without DMSO.
If you were not using DMSO, CDS on its own is the best bet.
I have read some spray dmso after application of active MMS CDS or CDH but CDS is thought to be best on skin.
I just rub or wipe DMSO onto the area, or mix with MMS active solution (CDS or CDH) and mix all together after activation period and rub wipe brush, however you decide.
2-3 drops per hour should get things right.
You can build.
Add MMS2 when you want.
Any DMSO MMS topical doses don't count as part of the 3 per hour.
Maybe use small amounts of MMS2 so not as much fluid is required.
A few grains.
I think the CDH/S applications especially with DMSO are he answer.
But internal is also beneficial.
After ten days of MMS/CDS/H the dogs may be better, heading in right direction and the MMS2 might not be as critical.
Small amounts. It is water that activates the MMS2.
I have not dosed any with 2 myself, just MMS in water bowls was the fix for the animals I've treated for lesser conditions than Cancer.

But I think you have it.
MMS or CDH hourly.
DMSO with CDS topically.
MMS or CDH with or without DMSO.

It's best to sneak up on the disease and surprise it with some stealth moves....
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If your 11 hour out of fridge solution still has colour, its still good
Remember no metal bowls.

CDH and DMSO a very potent solution to the issue at hand.
Probably the most potent and powerful mix yet.

I think you're going to be fine.
And I think the dogs tumor treated with CDH and DMSO doesn't stand a chance.

RevRay, thank you for the explanation.

My tumor dog had some loose stool/diarrhea this morning. I am backing off to 1.5 ml /dose of cdh today.

Now to the dmso. dilute (99%) with dw to 70/30.

How many drops of dmso or is that irrelevant or is dmso like the water I mix the cdh with when dosing? My understanding is to make sure to spread it lightly and evenly and possibly to different areas to caution for skin irritation? Can there be irritation from dmso as well - so I mix the two with some water?

My understanding and execution will be: I mix the 2-3 (1-2 to start) drops cdh with some water (does it need some dilution to lesson irritation?) then add 2-3 drops of dmso - put into 1 oz. glass bottle, spray and rub? The plastic tubing it travels through to spray is no concern? I think the spray will allow me to get more even and handle less.

I am still waiting a bit before I add the mms2. I think I will take your advice and add the dmso first.

That cancertutor site/conversations with Webster is where I got all of my concerns about using dmso - I will get over it. Of course, not that I am overly detailed and wanting to know all information before I execute - can't help it - my personality flaw and I am aware of it. LOL I am sure not funny to you.