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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 10 Dec 2011 13:58 #9072

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Hmmm - Nir and Truth, what I have found is that cooking measurements are somewhat approximate, as opposed to scientific measurements, which tend to be exact down to the yumpty-ump places beyond the decimal <G>. That may be where the difference lies. On my measuring cups (in the US) - the L line is a bit higher than the 8 oz/1C line.

(and I won't even get into my thoughts about "what if the cup got out of line in the manufacturing line and the screening of the paint for the measuring lines is a little high or a little low" LOL I finally decided that whatever I did, I just needed to be consistent - use the same measurer -

Now, this is all JMHO, and I'm personally not going to worry too much, when I do a measurement for saturation, whether the 2oz is 2oz or 2.02oz, or 60mL or 63mL - but I am OC enough to use the same measuring cup, and be sure to bring it up to eye level (hmm, is the water at the top of the line for the 2 oz, the bottom of the line for the 2 oz or the middle of the line? - see there goes the OC again!!! <G>)

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 10 Dec 2011 14:07 #9074

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Pam

with all do respect I DO NOT live in the US I live in ISRAEL we use milliliters. we use 250ml as a cup in the kitchen and in the labs.

I have no idea about OZ, for me it is a complicated way for measuring things, same thing with inches we use centimeter.
So i will not try to teach you about Oz and inches and all of you US people don't try to teach us about liters and centimeters.
OK? :-)

Nir

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 10 Dec 2011 14:30 #9077

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Hi Nir,

I live in Indonesia - a land of millimeters, and I agree with you, millimeters and centimeters are truly the best way to go - and the scientific community agrees. I see my mix up now. I (and Michael) have been referring to the US cup measurement which is 236.5882368 ml and you are referring to the Metric cup which is 250 ml.

In the future, in order to be clear, I will try to state "US Cup", or "Metric Cup".

I apologize for my confusion.

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 10 Dec 2011 15:07 #9081

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LOL, Nir, I figured you didn't live in the US - and was just commenting that I thought that the different ways of measuring may have been where some of the confusion came from. IMHO, as long as we're consistent in our own specific measurements - whatever we use - we should be fine.
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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 11 Dec 2011 16:34 #9113

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I recently received a copy of a private email Jim Humble sent to a friend in reference to the dosing and measuring of CDS. Jim is still studying the CDS and may eventually come to different conclusions. This is not an official statement from Jim, it is only what he said in a private email in response to a question. Nevertheless, this is at least something for us to go on right now till we have an official statement.

Here is what Jim wrote:

I assume that saline water will hold less chlorine dioxide than distilled or reverse osmosis water. Also all the wrinkles have not been iron out yet. Preparing CDS is a saline solution was for injection into the muscles of cows, although one could also use it orally. The final important figure is that any drink used in any protocol for MMS should read 8 ppm for each drop of MMS in the drink. In the case of CDS no matter what protocol you are doing, you should add CDS until the drink measure in ppm at 8 ppm for each drop that is called for in the MMS protocol instructions. That means a 3 drops CDS drink or MMS drink will measure 24 ppm for both drinks.

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In a subsequent email I asked Jim for clarification that a "drink" of MMS is 4 oz. and he said yes. Thus a 3 drop dose of MMS in 4 oz. of water should test at 24 ppm chlorine dioxide. A 6 drop dose will test at approximately 50 ppm. These numbers are consistent with the testing I did and reported here genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8942&Itemid=66#8942 earlier in this thread.

It is apparent that at this time Jim is treating the CDS just like the MMS so that they should both test the same using the test strips to have equivalent doses. The dose of CDS needed to match a 3 drop dose of MMS will depend on the strength of the CDS. If 1 ml of the CDS diluted with 4 oz. of water tests at 25 ppm, then a 1 ml dose is equivalent to a 3 drop dose of MMS. If 1 ml of the CDS in 4 oz of water tests at 50 ppm (such as CDS made using Jim's instructions) then use only .5 ml to equal a 3 drop dose of MMS.

Jim also said in his response email to me that 1 ml equals 25 drops. Thus, CDS made using Jim's instructions will need 12 drops to equal a 3 drop dose of MMS.

3000 ppm per liter CDS. Steve has said about this strength, "I have also found that 3000 ppm will keep well in 77 degree temps, with no pressure buildup, or refrigeration." (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8942&limit=6&limitstart=6&Itemid=66#9029). It appears this would be a good strength for commercial sales of CDS. People can use 1 ml to equal a 3 drop dose of MMS and it seems to be stable and safe. If you make CDS and dilute 1 ml of it with 2 oz of water you should get a test of 50 ppm using the 0-500 ppm chlorine dioxide test strips; the color of the reading should match pretty clearly.

5900 ppm per liter CDS (typical result of Jim's video instructions). Myself, Pam and another friend are all getting 5900 ppm CDS using Jim's method. 1 ml diluted with 2 oz of water should give a clear test of 100 ppm and 1 ml diluted in 4 oz of water should give a clear 50 ppm reading using the test strips. Therefore, only .5 ml (12 drops) of this CDS is needed to equal 3 drops of MMS. Based on Jim's response to me I believe he agrees with these numbers.

Michael
found here also genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=8725&limit=6&limitstart=24&Itemid=66#9114
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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 13 Dec 2011 11:53 #9204

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Hi all :-)

does anybody know where i can buy on the Internet the chlorine dioxide test strips?

I cant seem to find it in my country so the only way to get it is from another country :-(

Thanks

Nir

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 13 Dec 2011 13:23 #9208

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Thanks, but that web site use only expensive delivery method for international delivery.

Maybe there is another site that will use USPS?

Thanks

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 13 Dec 2011 13:29 #9210

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Nir, check your PMs, pls.

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Re: MEASURING CDS for saturation 13 Dec 2011 13:32 #9211

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what is PM ?

Edit-

Haaa private message... didnt know i can get those... :silly:

There were a few over there... :lol:

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