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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 18:11 #8459

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Thanks Pam! Excellent video, here is the link to his wall http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002553201592#!/mark.grenon?sk=wall .

Here is the video link www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150991514880160 .

Mark says the CDS has lasted for 6 weeks so far in a bottle and they think it will go longer, but that is how long they have had it so far. They are still experimenting on how much MMS/activator to use to get saturation of the CDS. Andreas said 5% each of MMS/activator but Mark says they are still experimenting.

Recipe Mark is using in this video is 50 cc/ml of MMS and 50 cc/ml of citric acid and 500 cc/ml of saline solution.

1 cc/ml of CDS is equal to 4 drops of MMS and he adds 3 oz. of water for a tasteless dose.

Mark also stressed to use the stiff tubing; he calls it 1/4 inch 'pressure hose' but it looks and sounds just like the HDPE icemaker tubing at home depot, that says polyethylene on the label. It is stiff and translucent whitish.

Mark also reports a remarkable testimonial from a famous doctor who called him. Mark had shown the CDS making process to the doctor 3 weeks earlier. The doctor had a leukemia case confirmed by 3 positive blood tests that he treated with the equivalent of protocol 1000 using the CDS. 6 ml of CDS daily put into one liter of water and drink 1/8 each hour for 8 hours. Six cc/ml of CDS is equivalent to 24 drops of MMS, so drinking 1/8 each hour was like protocol 1000.

After only 1 week of CDS, a blood test verified the leukemia was cured!

Bravo Mark, Jim and Andreas!

Michael
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 19:51 #8461

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Hello.
On friday I made CDS. Unfortunately, I can not upload photos to my computer to show it to you.
I used:
50ml. - 28% sodium chlorite
50ml. - 50% solution of citric acid
500ml. - Distilled water

3 days, I drink to the following schedule:
1 day - 1ml. per dose.
2 days - 2ml. per dose.
Day 3 - 3ml. per dose, 8-10 doses per day

However, several questions arise.
1 - If the intake of CDS does not cause nausea or diarrhea, how will we know if it works? Until now, these symptoms indicate, that MMC works!
2 - If 1ml. is equal to the dose of 4 drops, then in a solution of 1 liter is 1000 doses, right?
3 - Why Mark says that we must use only rigid hose? I used silicone.
4 - How they found that 1ml. CDS is equal to 4 drops of MMS?

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 21:19 #8462

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Thanks for getting the link up there. I went out to do laundry, and when I got back saw Mark's note to me to put it up - thanks for getting it up earlier, Michael.
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1. For many of us it will be the amelioration of our symptoms, Polak. And for some of us, there will be laboratory tests to prove it, as Michael shared. They're still experimenting.
2. A litre is 1000 doses, yes. at 3 to 4 drops a dose.
3. I don't have any idea on the hose. I used vinyl the first time and now am going to be using polyethylene the second If you think about it, there's a low density polyethylene tubing and a high density polyethylene tubing. The HDPE (which is what we get in the bottles that MMS comes in) is food grade and sturdier - but I don't know for sure why he made that comment.
4. I'm sure the "how do they know" answer involves math, and I'm a social scientist, LOL = maybe someone else can do the numbers.

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 21:35 #8463

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I use silicone tube, i have it from my Ozone generator. Silicone is the only thing you can use with ozone because other kind of plastic will be destroyed by the Ozone. I think that Silicone is the best for CSD as well.
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 22:14 #8464

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Pam, at the standard dose MMS, some people need higher doses to have progress in treatment. How will we know whether we should increase the dose CDS?
Yes, I know that they are still experimenting, but we need to ask questions, because people will ask us the same, and we need to know the answers.
Also, our own experience, will also be of great benefit. So far I feel nothing after these doses, because there are no symptoms. For this, I will drink CDS constantly to see what changes will have! There should be some indication that the CDS works, without any laboratory test. I say this, because there are people who will think that the CDS does not work, when they have no symptoms.

And, how to understand a cancer patient what dose CDS needs, when no symptoms? Now, based on what we can determine the dosage? Until now it was according to symptoms, but once they are gone...?

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 22:33 #8465

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Polak - a long time ago, when i was still taking antibiotic (before i moved to natural alternative medicine) when i had a Strep throat i used to take penicillin. i had no symptoms from the antibiotic, no side effect and i didn't think that because i do not have those the antibiotic is not working. not everything you cure gives you reactions. but after a few days the Strep throat was gone and that is how i knew the antibiotic worked.

why do you think that if people will not feel sick they will think that the CSD is not working.
If they do not have the Patience to just take it like any other medicine and see if they feel better after a few days or weeks then give them MMS1 not as a CDS but drops in water, maybe they will feel sick and everyone will be happy.

About all the questions - the CDS is only out for two (plus) weeks. there are no answers yet. nobody is trying to hide the information and as soon as more information will be available i am sure that you will be able to read it here in the forum.

Until then, we all experiment on ourselves and anybody else that is willing to be experimented on without answers.

So.... Patience, Patience, Patience all will be answered in good time.

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 22:58 #8466

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Nir, I'm just trying to understand, the mechanism by which to determine the dosage of CDS. A client of mine, with lung cancer, feels very bad drinking MMS1 and I would like to know, what dose of CDS can recommend. 1ml, 2ml...?

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 27 Nov 2011 23:10 #8467

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well, i really do not think we will have new protocols for CDS for a few months, until more data will be available from people that experiment on CDS.

So, for now all i can say is that if the protocol for cancer is as many drops as one can take without getting sick for 10 hours + MMS2 every 2 hours, I would suggest taking 3-4ml every hour for 10 or more hours a day + MMS2.

or to keep taking the protocol of MMS drops and wait with the CDS for a while until answers will start coming. for now there are no protocols or suggestions for use of CDS for a specific illness except for the idea that 1ml of CDS is equal to 3-4 drops of MMS1.

For now, people should use their own judgment on how to use it or if to use it at all....

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 28 Nov 2011 00:14 #8468

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OK, I will throw this in - a cancer patient traditionally would be on the 2000 protocol. Which is start low with MMS1, and increase - (beyond the 3 drop dose) to as much as they can take without being sick. This is hourly for 10 hours. Plus you do the calcium chloride (MMS2) every 2 hrs, 4 or 5 x a day, again starting LOW, and building up.

I would think that the protocol would remain the same. The value is that someone who can't stand MMS1 can do the CDS - I'd start at the 3 drop dose (1mL) if they can do that, in a day or so, I'd go to 1.5mL, increasing slowly, just as you would with MMS1. If they have a problem with the 1mL dose, I'd drop back to .5mL. Just as you would do with MMS2. The thing you're looking for is the herx reaction to determine the dosage. You're going to have to do the same thing with the CDS.

I can't do MMS1 at anything greater than a 2 drop dose. I started CDS on a 3 drop (1mL) dose with no problem

LOL, I just read Nir's post and realized I'm basically repeating what he said.

This is about the best thing I can state, and it's based on common sense, not on anything that has been published.
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