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Dr Robert Willner Injects "HIV" into himself on TV



Dr. Willner is author of Deadly Deception: The Proof that Sex and 'HIV' Absolutely Do Not Cause 'AIDS'. So determined was Dr. Willner to prove to the world that 'AIDS' was not spread sexually or through blood contamination, that he stunned the nation of Spain in 1993 by inoculating himself on TV with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a haemophiliac said to be 'HIV positive'. The footage was broadcast throughout Europe. Encouraged by the coverage he was receiving, Willner repeated his performance with different patients in front of the cameras of ABC and NBC. Surprisingly no US network reported this dramatic news on national television. Up until his untimely death, Dr. Willner remained 'HIV negative' in spite of constant testing.


Robert Willner (21 June 1929 — 15 April 1995) was a doctor from Florida who became famous for his role in AIDS denialism, the view that AIDS is not caused by HIV infection.

Willner described himself as originally an "orthodox" physician who slowly transitioned to alternative medicine, particularly following his wife's 1978 struggle with cancer chemotherapy.[1] In 1995, Willner asserted that "I am convinced you can prevent all diseased with diet, lifestyle changes, sanitation."[1]

Willner's Florida medical license was suspended in 1990 following a Florida Board of Medicine ruling that Willner had made inappropriate medical claims for food products.[1]

On October 14, 1993, in a press conference at Arrecife de Lanzarote, Spain, Willner jabbed his finger with blood from Pedro Tocino, hemophilia patient who tested HIV positive after VIII factor transfusions.[1][2][1]

Willner authored a book presenting his point of view on the relation between HIV and AIDS, titled Deadly Deception: the Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS.[3] The book was published shortly after Willner's medical license was revoked for, among other things, treating an AIDS patient with ozone therapy.[2]

The following month, on October 28, 1994, in a press conference at a Greensboro, North Carolina hotel, Willner jabbed his finger with blood he said was from an HIV-infected patient.[1][2]

Willner died April 15, 1995, of a heart attack.[4]

Source.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Willner

So, what causes AIDS in his opinion?

That is a very interesting report znzMagic.

It is really a big issue here in my country as our previous president was ousted from his job due to the backlash of him claiming the fact that HIV does not cause Aids. One only has to wonder how deep the pockets of the detractors are when they go all out to make a case on behalf of the MIC.

Since ARV's have become standard practice here being issued "free" from the clinics, not much evidence is at hand of the scourge abating. The "officials" keep claiming they are have great successes, but one never sees verified statistics.

All we experience is a continued stream of funerals as families are decimated as time goes by. Unofficially, I have gained information from hospital doctors that autopsies are indicating sclerosis of the liver in many cases. Officially that is not acknowledged, and death certificates keep indicating indifferent causes of death. So it does appear to me at least that the claims of ARV cocktails are really poisoning the users of the drugs. There seems to be a two year stay in the physical health of patients and then a sudden downturn is evident from there.

It makes it difficult to advise the people I see as how they handle their ARV's when starting an MMS regime. I prefer to tell them to continue their meds and keep their doctor informed what they are doing. Then only to consider desisting with the ARV's once they get better. So the mix of improved health with taking ARV's and MMS gives the treatment staff the opportunity to claim success. But at least the lucky ones that we assist have a chance of a normal life.

It really is a massive task to consider outreaching to more people that MMS can help them along with a good diet of vegetables and mineralisation - but we believe in doing it one person at a time.

Education is our only tool we strongly believe in. The results speak the truth and we we just trust the message will go viral at some point.

Veronica - we here believe strongly that Aids is caused by a multiplicity of factors, the biggest of which is poor nutrition. It is in our opinion not the HIV mitochondria, which has been proven in studies to be rather harmless. When the immune system becomes depleted it is an easy path to have auto immune response factors going wild.

Why is the standard type test for HIV not to look for an HIV virus? It is merely a white blood cell count (CD4) and when that is low enough, the patient is classed as HIV+. They also do a viral count with this and this typifies the diagnosis when the V-load is very high.

Upon re-nutrisation and good exercise the CD4 count shoots back up as the immune system responds to proper food intake. We achieve a serious correction to health when the patient is taken on an MMS protocol.

Hi Veronica.

Thanks for your question regarding what causes aids, have not read Dr. Willners book yet but here is common info from different sources.

PUT IN A NUTSHELL HIV-AIDS IS CAUSED BY POVERTY.......

HIV-AIDS is supposed to be caused by total breakdown of your immune system, lets call it or say it is brought about by autointoxification, which is helped by several co-factors.

The first reason autointoxification can occur is lack of water.

Water is the key...

If you're thirsty then you're already dehydrated. So drink lots of fresh clean water. And I mean water. Soda's, coffee, tea, and other sorts of drinks you can purchase are not the same as water.

They are treated as foods by the body.

Water is one of the best purifiers for the body and a necessary ingredient for life.

Without proper water and hygiene you are going to sooner or later pick up diseases which are all than thrown into one basket and are known as HIV-AIDS.

Without water how does one grow your vegetable and fruit patch to keep you on healthy diet.

Other autointoxifications include to much alcohol and drugs and smoke, could even be your coke and fanta that you drink, heard some where that a bottle of soda conatins up the the equivalent of 20 teaspoons sugar, sugar is a destroyer of the immune system, cigarrettes probably reduce your immune system by 40% or more, quit smoking HIV hates that....... add the damage from the sugar and we have not even started with other co-factors such as stress, lack of rest and sleep and all them designers drugs you really gonna breakdown one day whether you have 1000 sex partners or not. Pollution........

In Africa it is well known that AIDS-HIV rates where very high along major roads and settlements on these roads.

One theory I heard about from a doctor in London in the mid 80,s was that this was caused or spread by truck drivers who drove long distances and each evening they spent a night in different villages taking different women along the way, they then drove the whole day in heat, after each session every night in a different village most wake up and drive on without a proper shower, theres no water or it is dirty and expensive to get, so after 3 or 4 nights without proper water what do you think is going to happen, it is not likely that people out there in remote places are getting the best diets nor without proper water hopw do they keep diseases at by in the heat.

The AIDS-HIV establishment wants HIV-AIDs centers in remote villages with free ARV,s handed out, but clean water has not even reached most of these villages, how does someone avoid diseases with out water let alone for watering your healthy vegetable patch.

Its the lifestyle that causes things to go bad, if you live in a city with water and you have proper nutrition and excersize and good life style, enough sleep and love etc, it is very difficult to catch HIV-AIDS, according to that Dr. in London and this is well before all the modern day theories came about what causes AIDS-HIV any intellegent Dr. knows that, but if you party every weekend on coke and tequila you going to become a number, a statistic sooner or later.......

There are only two explanations for a new epidemic of “acquired” diseases:

Germs or lifestyles, associated with chemical or physical health risks.

Hardly anybody remembers that in 1981 AIDS researchers had already
advanced the lifestyle-AIDS hypothesis in the “prestigious” New England
Journal of Medicine (Durack et al. NEJM 1981).

According to this hypothesis the massive use of recreational sex and party drugs, like nitrite inhalants, amphetamines and cocaine, is causing AIDS.

Since viruses or microbes do not transmit AIDS, the recreational and antiviral drugs “must be the truth”:

How often have I said to you, that when you have eliminated the
impossible, whatever remains however improbable must be the truth.

Sherlock Holmes

According to this hypothesis the causes of AIDS are

• Recreational drugs,
• Anti-HIV drugs, and
• Malnutrition.

Checkout the quiz below for more info how cocaine and heroin addiction and rise floows the HIV-AIDs rise in the US...... for example

A multibillion $ Quiz:

Is AIDS a viral or a chemical epidemic?

Peter Duesberg
Lew Rockwell conference
Foster City
December 1-2, 2006

PLEASE GO TO THE QUIZ ON BELOW LINKS.....

duesberg.com/presentations/$bnAIDSQuiz.pdf

duesberg.com/presentations/$bnAIDSQuiz.ppt


Read more info about HIV-AIDS and its causes on the forum...

www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=showcat&catid=23&Itemid=66

Thanks.....

Hmmmm, died of a heart attack - my conspiracy side is showing, but that's certainly a "common" death in those who teach against established paradigms.

Ha, ha, did wonder myself what he had died of, but not one moment did I have a tinge of a conspiracy theory.

Wonder how many more denialists could fit into any conspirary theories out there.......

I don't think that I can agree with Dr. R. Willner. I lived 7 years in a rural area in South Africa with about 80% of HIV.
Most of those I know even personal and at the many funerals I was, they all got HIV through sex.
You may now answer that the water is the problem - maybe that's even true - but there will be no change of water situation for the next century.
Therefor you can't tell the people 'drink clean and a lot of water' - they just don't have it. But what they have is a lot of sex outside marriage and that's the one who get HIV.
1. Men who been married in a village and working in town are not all faithful to there wife. After a few months they come home, in the meantime they slept with other ladies in town and got HIV - now sleeping with there wife at home and infect the wife, who gets diagnosed with HIV latest by the birth of the next child.
2. Too many young once who are just sleeping around with a boyfriend.
Believe it or not - I witnessed this for 7 years

Not read Dr. Willners opinion yet about how HIV-AIDS is caused, just pointed out what other specialists have by saying, and I totally agree with you in Africa the majority do practice unsafe safe, guess most of the world still does as from statistics condom use has not risen significantly in countries like Germany where people also enjoy their sex before the HIV-AIDS era and after, but in Africas case yes I agree with what you are saying people are all very much closer interlocked and weaved together, but is there enough evidence pointing to sex as the main culprit, if that was the case then why has the population doubled in an odd 30 years in Africa instead of decreasing if a sexually transmitted epidemic of sorts was underway as the experts say, think there would probably be alot more cases of going to funerals, bars wiped out, no prositutes let alone husbands and wives and early age sexually active teenies, just trying to say is there scientific evidence that it is sexually transmitted, from what research I hear people are talking about they say yes it can be transmitted sexually but very rarely, many couples are living for years together one positive and the other negative, how come......

As far as I know the HIV-AIDS virus itself in the first place has never been scientifically proven to exist...... so where do we go from here as no one really seems able to solve this riddle once and for all..... does it exist or does it not exist, as Archbishop Jim says he is to dumb to understand and will not even bother to get into the HIV-AIDS debate, but we have so many clever people all around the world can they not solve it........