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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 16:54 #40441

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Hi Penny

Animal protocol 1 drop dose per 25 pounds of animal, hourly is the guide.
Using CDS for tumor applications, better with DMSO.
DMSO is used and sold in Vet shops across the globe.
It is also used to transdermally introduce drugs to horse cattle and more.

A couple things,
1) MMS2 in food. Not enough water in my opinion.
2) unactivated MMS in water bowl, to me seems like could cause nausea etc from unactivated MMS activating in stomach with bodies supply of Hydrocloric acid.
As I understand CDH, CDH is longer activation which reduces or eliminates nausea due to FULL activation external to body.
So I feel that its an error to put MMS2 in food, and also to put unactive MMS1 in water bowl.

That said
How I treat animals is simple.
I add 5-10 active drops to water bowl adding more over the day.
Once the MMS starts to work, appetite will return.

Mark Grenon leaves MMS and Moringa for Native Peoples in Columbia etc, so the two are compatible but I do not yet know the procedure/protocol for Moringa and MMS. Actually Mark was leaving CDS.

Try changing title of thread or PM Jeffers and or blessed1
they are both very helpful animal lovers

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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 16:58 #40442

pam Offline Platinum Boarder Posts: 4593 Thank you received: 3702	If your dog will take MMS with a broth, go ahead and use that. I have some baby food meats that I'll take a little bit and put it in the syringe for my cats. Moringa is taken 2 hrs after the final dose. Have no idea how long it stays active in the system.....
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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 17:13 #40447

penwah114 Topic Author Offline Senior Member Posts: 62 Thank you received: 12	thank you. how do I pm. I have been looking but don't see button for that
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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 17:15 #40449

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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 17:39 #40453

penwah114 Topic Author Offline Senior Member Posts: 62 Thank you received: 12	the moringa has high vitamin C, thought Vitamin stayed up to 48 hrs and will diminish or counteract the mms? I am confused. I would like to continue the moringa for the nutrients but will stop for best benefits of mms for my dogs. and please clarify dosing. one drop per day to start or one drop per hour to start? Thank you for your patience, this is new to me and I want to get it right.
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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 18:07 #40455

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Vit C does diminish MMS however most of the C is used up within 6 hrs.
Whatever is left will not diminish MMS much if taken well apart.
This to me means Moringa at night after MMS, overnight Moringa works and in AM most is cleared and MMS is free to do its work.

Start can be anything you want it to be.
as the care giver you will decide what is best.
So you will need to find the threshold of what is beneficial dose and what is not.
Given what I know about your case, I would 1 per hour as I feel a certain urgency here. If however you choose to start with 1 drop per day, results are farther off in my opinion.
Based on your statements, I would CDS the tumor and activating water doses all day and provide only water with MMS active in it.

I think you have it right.
The protocols are guides but not mandatory
In other words you can smudge the lines some and still get great results.
MMS lasts up to two hours in body so the idea is to keep MMS in system for 10 hours or more a day to eliminate root cause of illness.
1 drop per 25 pounds hourly however you will be 3 drop doses for the two dogs and as its difficult to gauge how much MMS is actually reaching the root cause when using a water bowl, I activate more and keep it happening.
I find animals respond fast, or the ones I treated have.

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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 19:28 #40458

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Thank you.
What does CDS the tumor mean? I was going to start with mms1 using the baby bottle method so it is made in the am and easier for me to track and a bottle for each of us.

if they take the mms1 ok, I was not going to make CDH (I am thinking that is what you meant by CDS the method using citric acid and pre mixing and storing in refrigerator and three drops = one mms1) in my case as I have HCL4% as my activator. I understand that making cdh with 4% means making twice to get to 3000ppm. I did not purchase test strips so for now just mms1 and mms2.

I will give Moringa in the evening, I feel this is important for nutrition. maybe 1/4 dose. after a week or two, maybe three on mms 1000 and 2000.

1 drop per 25 pounds hourly however you will be 3 drop doses for the two dogs and as its difficult to gauge how much MMS is actually reaching the root cause when using a water bowl, I activate more and keep it happening.

I will be giving directly by syringe in mouth or broth for hourly, I will activate the water as well, but they don't drink all that often to catch them with fully activated water (activation only lasting 90 minutes)may be a little more challenging. I am planning to take time off work to make this happen.

Thank you for clarifying. I know I am being annoying but this is very important to me. My pets are my kids and my personality is overly detailed orientated.

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Orange Juice 24 Feb 2014 22:21 #40464

penwah114 Topic Author Offline Senior Member Posts: 62 Thank you received: 12	Thank for your clarification. do I just not give the mms2. what is your experience with mms2 and animals? I have read that with cancer he needs it. Thanks, Penny
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Orange Juice 25 Feb 2014 02:07 #40474

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CDS
there are 3 methods of MMS
MMS
CDS
CDH
CDS is just active ingredient gassed off into water and held in water just the gas. I hear it works best topically.
Is easy to make. search how to make or seek index.
Possibly what we might see is enough recovery in the build and 3 day phase that appetite comes back enough that you can somehow get the small amount of MMS2 into stomach AND enough water to activate so Pam's idea of broth after a MMS 2 pill in food? may be the answer.

CDS is the collection of active gas.
Soon you will know most of whats required to help many.
There will be how to make CDS videos on web, here and soon....everywhere...

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