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Orange Juice 20 Feb 2014 17:48 #40217

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I drink a powder energy drink in the morning, it is my wakeup. I take it with orange juice and it also has antioxidants in it. How long after taking this can I start on the mms/cds protocol? I will not stop taking my morning waker upper.

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Orange Juice 20 Feb 2014 17:59 #40220

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Like you I love my Coffee in the morning and no going to stop so in order to accomodate the MMS protocol you need to give couple of hours so that antioxidant get out of your body. You will lost your time and effort if you mix antioxidant with MMS. :(
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Orange Juice 20 Feb 2014 23:10 #40233

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typically Jim has stated 2 hours after your coffee or 2 hours after your last dose. The onl y thing we don't know is how long the antioxidants last in the system - if it's like cannabis oil - it's moot - you will find that cannabis oil lasts from 48 hours to longer - so those two protocols are incompatible.
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Orange Juice 21 Feb 2014 06:32 #40245

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After using MMS one often no longer needs stimulants to wake up.
Instead they wake up clear, ready to go.
Sharp.
That was my experience.

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Orange Juice 21 Feb 2014 15:58 #40263

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I will have to research to see if anyone actually knows how long antioxidants stay in system. What about colloidal silver? I am currently giving colloidal silver to both dogs as well which is keeping the blood in urine at bay. although today there was sign of small blood clot so hopefully a sign of healing. The tumor dog also gets 1tsp baco water a day, which is almost gone.

What about Moringa and Green Vibrance (I give my dogs these as well)? I thought I read that it is important to incorporate nutrients into the system as the mms does not provide any. I thought it said to give in the evening 2 hrs after completing mms for the day. Both of the above contain antioxidants, so what do I do with that? If it is recommended to give the above at night I am assuming it has been done with the expected results of the mms - hence the answer to the length of time antioxidants stay in system?

So far as the dog with tumor, I have just started the Budwig protocol and will use that for a few more weeks to see if there is any improvement as there is a lot of positive with that and most say tumors reducing fast. any thoughts as to which has seen better results. I am not opposed to switching to mms1 and mms2 with him if anyone has strong indications that that is a better way to go. I am thinking 48-72 hours off Budwig before I switch to be sure no interaction? I believe that different animals/humans react differently to different protocols.


I am looking for more information on the protocols for dogs and results. I guess I am apprehensive about the first signs of nausea as I won't know, I fear by the time any signs show it will be worse than it should be. Because of this, I have decided to use the capsule method for me and my dog. I am thinking 1/2 drop each (mix 1 drop mix and add maybe .4 ml h20 then put half in each capsule) dog weighs 90lbs.. Also, I was reading that the max dose for pets is 3 drops for @ 25 lbs. is that 3 drops per hour per 8-10 hrs? I am using mms/4% hcl. I ordered yesterday and it is on its way. I am thinking if I take I can gauge the nausea on myself and maybe it will tell me if my dog is the same. I also ordered the mms2 and need to read more on how to use that.

I thought I read somewhere that there is pretty bad odor that I will not be able to smell. Is this true? I will have to check my schedule for the detox protocol.

Thank you all for responding, I am new to this and the information is somewhat confusing. I just know I like the idea of using this as a regular detox and the longer I work with it the easier it will become, so thank you as you all have that experience and I appreciate your sharing.

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Orange Juice 21 Feb 2014 16:26 #40264

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It is true, there is zero nutrition in MMS. And if doing MMS long time, you will need to feed your body nutrition.
However, I feel that should you miss some days of supplements, this will not be a big deal.

As to nausea, external longer activation with HCl is key to less nausea, as well I believe capsule method also reduces nausea due to taste/smell.

Others will be more helpful than I on pet protocols

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Please explain the longer activation. My understanding is 20 seconds, then add water. Won't the potency be dramatically diminished - gases escaping before adding water with longer activation? Also, any thoughts to making cds with 4% hcl, my supplier says I need 10% which I did not purchase.

Thanks, Penny

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I just called Green Vibrance and they say the antioxidants cycle out of your body within 4-6 hours.
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Orange Juice 21 Feb 2014 17:53 #40273

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Hi Penny

Longer activation means better activation, more power, less nausea.
Yes, some ClO2 may escape if you activate in open air shot glass, but not a significant amount.
I offer the idea of using a closed bottle with dropper top or similar to activate in for 60 seconds before ingestion however if using capsules, you can activate IN capsule if you like and drink down with glass of water.
In the CDH threads you will find graphs that show activation times for all Activators currently in use or JB or Scott may read and post for you.
If I understand CDH correctly 10% or less down to 4% is required for CDH MMS activation.
Are you sure you are talking about 10% HCl and not 10% Citric Acid? Just need to be sure is all.
I expect and will wait for Scott or JB to confirm, that if using 10% HCl that only half the active drops would be required. So a 4 drop MMS dose would be activated with 2 drops HCl

Thanks for the antiOX call.

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