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Montyniranjan wrote:

I don't think this is a site commanded by the Chinese thought process. I am not going to agree to every thing everyone says and I don't have to.

you lost 15 family members, I am really sorry to hear that and that is awful.

you lost 9 since the vaccine rollout, and im terribly sorry to know that as well. as a person who DID NOT GET A VACCINE SHOT but did get monkeypox , and with every single person in my family rushing for the vaccine, and NO ONE having any physical problems because of it, I cannot and will not agree with the foolish conviction( that is your delusion) that the VACCINE caused the deaths.  I LOST NO ONE IN MY FAMILY FROM THE VACCINE, AND NO ONE WHO FACED ANY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF IT. so tough to believe this farce conspiracy. 

however, I am not ruling out that the vaccine may have hurt some of your family members, who already had some underlying issues that were not detected.
it may be something that may be true.

I have a mother who has a heart problem which started during the covid and much before she took the vaccine shots.  and even with that , she rushed out to get the vaccines and got three of them. she is healthy, and doesnt have any issues with the vaccine. so again I can't believe that the VACCINE had anything to do with it.

I am not going anywhere. I use mms , and I also have a right to be on this forum.

If you like speaking more about paranoia and other issues that are not related to mms
-  smoke trailers in the sky that you focus on more than enjoying your walk
-  pollution affecting your beautiful lives
-  and how the 'establishment ' s out to get you,  

then perhaps another forum would be BETTER FOR YOU and not me.

you could also look to jump on to
- paranoia ,
- schizophrenia,
- hallucination ,
- delusional forums.

you should get great help on there. 


My friend lost 15 family members, not me. I lost 9 personally. My friends husband lost 5 co workers to heart attacks, males in their 20's and 30's. I've had other friends who've also lost friends and family, this is not isolated. I'm glad you haven't been effected personally which is great for you but it's not everyone's experience so you can't say the vaccine is not having an impact.

I am not paranoid or delusional thanks. When I studied science you didn't rush an experimental vaccine to market without the appropriate testing involved, let alone to billions of people at once then to children who never needed it to begin with.

Do you know what the long term effects will be in 5 or even 10 years from now? Nobody does and yet here we with more boosters on the horizon. It's not about health but about profits. I've spoken to paramedics, doctors, scientists, undertakers and they're seeing a spike in heart attacks, strokes and falls since the rollout. Undertakers have seen a 15% increase in deaths since this time last year. Correlation does not equal causation but they're noticing that something's not right. Why do you think they've had to explain it away with the new disorder called SADS? Whoever heard of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome prior to all of this? Apparently shoveling snow can kill you now if you're not careful hahah.

I can only go by my experience and what I've seen with my own eyes, again I'm glad you haven't been impacted with deaths in your family and I pray it stays that way for you but not everyone is that fortunate. When your family gets vaccinated and dies in a short space of time to heart attacks, strokes and pulmonary embolism then I guess I'm the silly one for not thinking it was natural causes right?

You are entitled to your opinion as am I but will no longer waste my breath engaging with you as we'll never see eye to eye.

 

Mr Monty
It's not paranoia where they're really after you lol.
I personally only know several injured from the jabs and no deaths fortunately.

It's undeniable that the establishment has persecuted, gaslight,punished,arrested, cancelled and destroyed lives and careers,businesses all in the name of a highly survivable virus that wouldn't have hurt 99% of the population and criminalised highly effective early treatments that would have helped and saved the other 1%.

Really  - you only have to look at the ones who have profited and been totally unaffected to see the scam this has been  - definitely not a conspiracy theory for anyone with a couple braincells. 

Montyniranjan post=75808I don't think this is a site commanded by the Chinese thought process. I am not going to agree to every thing everyone says and I don't have to.

you lost 15 family members, I am really sorry to hear that and that is awful.

you lost 9 since the vaccine rollout, and im terribly sorry to know that as well. as a person who DID NOT GET A VACCINE SHOT but did get monkeypox , and with every single person in my family rushing for the vaccine, and NO ONE having any physical problems because of it, I cannot and will not agree with the foolish conviction( that is your delusion) that the VACCINE caused the deaths.  I LOST NO ONE IN MY FAMILY FROM THE VACCINE, AND NO ONE WHO FACED ANY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF IT. so tough to believe this farce conspiracy. 

however, I am not ruling out that the vaccine may have hurt some of your family members, who already had some underlying issues that were not detected.
it may be something that may be true.

I have a mother who has a heart problem which started during the covid and much before she took the vaccine shots.  and even with that , she rushed out to get the vaccines and got three of them. she is healthy, and doesnt have any issues with the vaccine. so again I can't believe that the VACCINE had anything to do with it.

I am not going anywhere. I use mms , and I also have a right to be on this forum.

If you like speaking more about paranoia and other issues that are not related to mms
-  smoke trailers in the sky that you focus on more than enjoying your walk
-  pollution affecting your beautiful lives
-  and how the 'establishment ' s out to get you,  

then perhaps another forum would be BETTER FOR YOU and not me.

you could also look to jump on to
- paranoia ,
- schizophrenia,
- hallucination ,
- delusional forums.

you should get great help on there.
 

So your assuming all the ingredients and or ingredient/dosages in the various jab batches are the same?    I'd suggest reviewing the data on www.howbadismybatch.com.

Also since it appears 'safe' in your opinion why haven't you taken it yet????  Remember what we have been told, its not just to protect you but its to protect others as well!

 

Dombo wrote:

Mr Monty
It's not paranoia where they're really after you lol.
I personally only know several injured from the jabs and no deaths fortunately.

It's undeniable that the establishment has persecuted, gaslight,punished,arrested, cancelled and destroyed lives and careers,businesses all in the name of a highly survivable virus that wouldn't have hurt 99% of the population and criminalised highly effective early treatments that would have helped and saved the other 1%.

Really  - you only have to look at the ones who have profited and been totally unaffected to see the scam this has been  - definitely not a conspiracy theory for anyone with a couple braincells. 
https://odysee.com/@laquintacolumnainternational:7/Optical-microscopic-analysis-of-a-Pfizer-vial-This-is-not-a-vaccine.:0
gab.com/alane69/posts/108459193784809326
childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccines-incurable-fatal-degenerative-brain-disorder/
 

https://odysee.com/@laquintacolumnainternational:7/Optical-microscopic-analysis-of-a-Pfizer-vial-This-is-not-a-vaccine.:0

BillPopMMS wrote:

The www.howbadismybatch.com website is typical hyper-paranoid ridiculous asinine bullshit.

ANYONE who attempts to figure out anything from the VAERS database information is an ignorant clueless idiot.

For people who don't understand, the VAERS information, which is submitted mostly by "civilians" / the public
(yes, even YOU could go on there and submit a report saying, "I took the vaccine and got a hangnail two days later")
is ONLY for use by scientific and medical researchers and statisticians to see if there is any actual, viable, verifiable
problems with a vaccine. (which is an extraordinarily difficult process and job)

It is NOT for civilians / the public / clueless idiots to try to decipher and use to build fallacious theories
or bolster their hyper-paranoid delusions, fantasies, and persecution complexes.

This should make a minimally intelligent and knowledgeable person pause and wonder:
If even 100,000 people get sick or die out of the many hundreds of millions of vaccinations,
THAT IS STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
IT LITERALLY MEANS NOTHING.
(effectively, and most probably, and I am using these numbers as an example to make a point)

(that is, MOST of the people who get sick and die after a vaccine would have gotten sick or died ANYWAY,
just statistically speaking --- if you are unable to understand or comprehend that fundamental fact, truth, and
reality, then I guess.... whatever)

Caveat Emptor

 

Sorry but that is nonsense.

Pfizer's own documents are now revealing just how bad the vaccines are.
If they are so harmless, why did Pfizer want to keep them hidden from the public for 75 years!!!! Surely, if anything, to quell all the hysterics you would WANT to release the data. 
Now we know why. Read the link below for details.

naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-friends-sorry-to-announce-a?s=r

Have you seen what is now coming out of dead people's blood vessels? 

White fibrous clots, some as thick as a small finger.
This is not post death either, they have been found in the recently deceased as well.

This is what the fibrous material/clots look like (these are small):



Some are much bigger than that.

You want to see one coming out of the leg, that is almost as long as the leg itself. It is white but is covered in blood, when washed off it looks like the ones in the vial.
And the embalmers are saying that they haven't seen this prior to 2021.
Finding this at first in about 30% of dead people, then 50% and now around 70 - 80% of people. This is something they have never seen before and only the vaccines have been introduced.

Dr Ruby has spoken to dozens of embalmers and they are too afraid to come forward for fear of losing business. There was one that did speak out and provided buckets of this white substance that is currently being analyzed.

This stuff is killing people. If this becomes as common as it seems to be, millions will die.

Here is a video of a clot being removed, go to 16:25 in the video. The removal of the clot is only about 30 seconds long.
rumble.com/vwc833-dr.-jane-ruby-extremely-graphic-images-of-post-mortem-blood-clots-of-the-va.html

This comes from the Ivermectin crowd.

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BillPopMMS wrote:

You are DANGEROUSLY listening to people who are NOT, and not CLOSE to being,
Medical Professionals OR Scientists OR true (viable) researchers.

You literally cannot believe a WORD they print or say. And if you do, you are simply asking for trouble.

They have NO credentials to be talking about the things they are talking about.
(especially with the "authority" and "certainty" and "surety" with which they mistakenly do so)
Except as mere OPINION, which should ALWAYS be taken with a very LARGE Grain of Salt and QUESTIONED.
(but they DO NOT suggest that their information is "opinion", because that weakens it, as it should)

They spout a bunch of CRAP, surrounded and wrapped in SOME truth, and facts, and reality,
and come to most probable invalid conclusions. That is what these kinds of people do.
They are preying on people whose Knowledge, Objectivity, and Logic, and Critical Thinking are not up to snuff.
(if that were not true, I would not need to be pointing all of this out --- YOU should be pointing it out to ME)

Naomi Wolf is BARELY a "Journalist" and "Author", with a highly questionable history.
She has a BA and a Doctorate of Philosophy.

Josh Guetzkow is a self-proclaimed Sociologist, Criminologist and Critical Thinker,
and a "Senior Lecturer" in those fields, with a PhD in Sociology.

And most likely the same for most, if not all, of the others. (some are worse than others)

YOU NEED to Do Your Due Diligence in sourcing these people and their sources and credentials.
Instead of just CHOOSING to BELIEVE what they espouse. (with your own Biases and the like coloring your BELIEFS)
And then spreading that misinformation.

And then, theoretically, taking their claims and such as "truth or fact or reality" accordingly.

Again, CAVEAT EMPTOR.

 

You just said a whole lot of nothing.

There are many people who's formal education is not in their now chosen field of work.

You want to dismiss, not facts, but personalities. That's not how science works. Pfizer wanted to hide their data away for 75 years, yet you say nothing.....

Are those white fibrous clots I showed you not real?? Because you didn't mention them once. Telling.

stu77000 wrote:

BillPopMMS wrote:

You are DANGEROUSLY listening to people who are NOT, and not CLOSE to being,
Medical Professionals OR Scientists OR true (viable) researchers.

You literally cannot believe a WORD they print or say. And if you do, you are simply asking for trouble.

They have NO credentials to be talking about the things they are talking about.
(especially with the "authority" and "certainty" and "surety" with which they mistakenly do so)
Except as mere OPINION, which should ALWAYS be taken with a very LARGE Grain of Salt and QUESTIONED.
(but they DO NOT suggest that their information is "opinion", because that weakens it, as it should)

They spout a bunch of CRAP, surrounded and wrapped in SOME truth, and facts, and reality,
and come to most probable invalid conclusions. That is what these kinds of people do.
They are preying on people whose Knowledge, Objectivity, and Logic, and Critical Thinking are not up to snuff.
(if that were not true, I would not need to be pointing all of this out --- YOU should be pointing it out to ME)

Naomi Wolf is BARELY a "Journalist" and "Author", with a highly questionable history.
She has a BA and a Doctorate of Philosophy.

Josh Guetzkow is a self-proclaimed Sociologist, Criminologist and Critical Thinker,
and a "Senior Lecturer" in those fields, with a PhD in Sociology.

And most likely the same for most, if not all, of the others. (some are worse than others)

YOU NEED to Do Your Due Diligence in sourcing these people and their sources and credentials.
Instead of just CHOOSING to BELIEVE what they espouse. (with your own Biases and the like coloring your BELIEFS)
And then spreading that misinformation.

And then, theoretically, taking their claims and such as "truth or fact or reality" accordingly.

Again, CAVEAT EMPTOR.


 

You just said a whole lot of nothing.

There are many people who's formal education is not in their now chosen field of work.

You want to dismiss, not facts, but personalities. That's not how science works. Pfizer wanted to hide their data away for 75 years, yet you say nothing.....

Are those white fibrous clots I showed you not real?? Because you didn't mention them once. Telling.

Just adding this in here.

It's official, the stats our government is trying to hide. 

Our team of investigative journalists compiled the latest numbers and there's a 20% increase in deaths from previous years for both New Zealand and Australia. 

If you think there are more people dying, you're not imagining it.  This quantifies what we've seen.  The numbers don't lie.

www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/over-20-more-deaths-in-nz-australia-vs-2015-2019/