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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 07 Dec 2023 15:05 #80654

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Hi! I have all of the books by Jim and A. Klacker. I know Jim has a whole chapter on Animals. But I need some guidance. I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused. My 7 year old indoor cat, always fed homemade raw food, seemingly very healthy, has been diagnosed with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma. The vet basically said, "I'm sorry." It's very aggressive. I personally know of about a dozen cats who have died from it and it's a horrible death for the cat and owner. I have been giving my cat Panacur three days a week and turkey tail mushroom daily in his food as it was better than doing nothing and it was suggested it could help him a bit. I am also using one drop of CBD oil in his ears for discomfort.
I really feel I need to try everything I can and I would like to begin treating him with MMS. I understand I should start with the Starting Procedure and then move to Protocol 1000, 1000+, 2000, 3000. But how long do I use each Protocol and how long is the Starting Procedure? Jim gives the increase in dosage for the starting procedure but I don't know when to proceed to the next level. I will not be able to determine "improvement" in my cat's case. I can certainly see he is getting worse in the last two weeks. I am not expecting miracles but I need to try this on him. He means the world to me. 

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 07 Dec 2023 20:42 #80655

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My answer is more a testimony rather than an advice.
My cat had something close to an oral squamous cell carcinoma.in late december 2022 out of the blue a big lump appeared on the right side of my cat’s face.After checking his mouth I saw blood swelling under the upper molar.He was operated by the vet thinking of dental infection.

Molar was removed and infection treated.He said to me that he also saw a white mass calling it a fistula that had not to be there.All was ok until early march 2023 when exact samed thing happened. Back to vet who removed the last teeth of the area to be sure it was not a dental problem.

End of march a new lump appeared. This time the vet said we will let him without operation because he had two anesthesia in short period. Wait until the lump burst by himself applying warm water to help.
One day later the skin broke to evacuate blood and pus.

From there I started many things on my own because I knew my vet won’t be and help.First I gave him for 3 weeks colloidal silver 20 ppm 4ml twice a day with a syringe.
After that I switched to CDS. I started with 4 drops increasing to 12 drops dissolved in 5ml of water.12 drops of cds for a 13 lbs cat is about 3 ml for 150 lbs humanI tried that 4 times a days in a syringe. Hopefully that was quite easy with this cat, I know it can be tricky with some. I sometimes added 3 drops of DMSO.

Of course this should be given to the cat away from food (1hour).
I alternated CDS and colloidal silver for weeks.My cat has lasted like that until late september.

The problem didn’t disappeared.
I chose to put him down because he had lost energy, was bleeding from the mouth sometimes ans had lost much weight.
He lost a lot of weight despite eating very well until the end.

No conclusion can be taken from my case of course.
I don’t know if it was the best treatment but that’s I did.

My cat was quite old. your’s is only 7 years which is 45 years to human age. I hope you will be able to help him !   

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 07 Dec 2023 23:03 #80657

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Oh, that was definitely not what I was hoping to hear. I am so sorry this happened to your cat. The vets don't give any hope for any cat with SCC but I can't let him just go downhill without trying to help in any way I can. I know this is not an exact science with animals but I am looking for information that will offer me and him, the best chance he may have. Thank you. 

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 08 Dec 2023 16:05 #80663

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Thank you so much for all of the time and thought in your reply. I really appreciate it. I feel I only have one shot at this and I want to make the best of it while balancing how much stress this will create for my cat, who is very sensitive to even loud voices, making it even more difficult to treat him without undue stress. Yesterday I was squirting the doses into his mouth, and though it was literally only drops from the cup mixture, he would try to run and hide from me each time as if it was torture and he was good at making sure his tongue did not allow any of the drops of liquid down his throat. At the end of the day I was giving him diluted, but unactivated Part A. He seemed to mind that less. At the end of the day, I put the unactivated, but diluted (per Jim's starting procedure chart) onto his food and he didn't seem to notice. This morning, I did the same. I just don't know if it has the desired effect mixed into his food. I will try, the rest of today, going back to the activated drops into his mouth directly. I don't have my heart set on curing this cancer. I don't believe it would be worth the sheer torture to him to try to accomplish that when it's probably not a reality. What I think I would be happy to achieve, would be for him to be feeling good or as good as he can for whatever time he has, and if, in the meantime, it has a positive effect on his cancer, that would be a bonus. Yesterday for most of the day, he seemed to be almost like his normal self. If I can achieve only this result, rather than hoping for a cure, I think it will work best for me emotionally, as well as for my cat. He had been exhibiting signs of discomfort and had a lot of congestion which seems to have subsided a lot, just in one day. 
Again, thank you so much. In these circumstances, we can all appreciate any and all tips, tricks, and support that is offered! 
 

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 08 Dec 2023 22:02 #80666

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Hi. I wanted to follow up a bit more. My cat won't touch any broth (I never had a cat who would, oddly) and he has never been a water drinker (he has always been given a homemade raw diet which I am told supplies him with all the water he needs, so I have been using the diluted but unactivated Chlorine Dioxide directly to a tiny bit of food each hour or so and he doesn't seem to notice it. I am hoping it will activate in his stomach. I actually give more than what they advise for direct oral administration so I can be sure these tiny amounts are disbursed onto the plate instead of him ingesting it. He seems to almost lick the plate. I have not noticed any negative reaction and he seems calm and not distressed as he was prior to beginning the administration of the CD.
My cat begs for cream (half and half) every day, and in the past if he were to need any type of medication, I would simply mix it into his cream and he would lap it up. I wonder if the cream would affect the CD? If I were to buy the test strips, would that tell me if the food or cream was negatively impacting the CD? I read the description on Amazon's website and it seemed they were mostly used for CDS. I don't foresee ever being able to put any capsules down his throat. His tumor is on the left of his tongue at the entrance to his throat. I'm surprised he is able to swallow food as well as he does. I am walking a tightrope here, just trying to do the best I can for him without causing him a lot of stress which would make him miserable. I spent the last two weeks crying and feeling so lost and helpless. At least now that I am actively doing something which can benefit him, it makes us both feel better. 
This cat is so intelligent and so demonstrative and loving. I cannot imagine how I will be without him and I have only had him with me inside for four years. He was feral and I fed him outside for a few years until I was able to trap him and bring him in. It took him nine months once inside, to trust me enough to come out of the room where he chose to live. One night, he walked into the bedroom and jumped into bed. He began sleeping butted right up to me and even under the covers with his head on my pillow. He is so special. 

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 28 Feb 2024 20:09 #81647

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Hello there :)  Do you have an update on your kitty? Did you end up doing any of the protocols in full?  My 18 year old Trixie was just diagnosed today. I'd love to know how things have gone for you these last few months <3

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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 28 Feb 2024 20:38 #81651

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Hi.  I lost my cat to this disease on Feb 9. In the end, my three months of hourly MMS and DMSO did nothing to help him. It may have made him feel as good as he could during this time. He never lost his appetite or lost any weight and he never had any bad smells. But he had constant issues with bloody mucous. Lots of it, which was constant. His tongue was hanging out of his mouth the last two months. But I have no regrets. He only suffered the last 18 hours until I could get him to the vet. 
Be realistic. People have spent tens of thousands to try to beat this cancer. I had hope to the very end. The veterinary community has no answers on the cause or the cure. So sad. To me it was the worst three months of my life. I never left him since we had the hourly dosage and this disease ruined Thanksgiving, my wedding anniversary, Christmas, New Years. my husband’s birthday and my birthday. And in the end we lost the fight.
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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 28 Feb 2024 20:42 #81654

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I just posted an update. If you don’t see it, please let me know. 
Give your Trixie all the love you have. I’ll be thinking of you both. 
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Cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma 28 Feb 2024 21:47 #81660

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Sending you lots of love and peace @sailselan, and thank you so much for responding. I know it's hard; the grief can take a while to process.   I'm so sorry the protocol didn't cure the cancer; but it is definitely encouraging that it greatly improved his quality of life <3  To me, that's what we are here for for our animal friends--to support their time here as best as we can!  You are a good human and animal guardian, and everything you did for him was out of love and respect for your sweet companion <3

Just a little soul-rambling in the midst of my emotional day...
We have had many animals over the years, and as I've connected deeper and deeper to each of them as I myself grow and change, and my views on modern "medicine" and "disease" have drastically changed, it's my goal to take as much of a gentle approach to health issues (for my pets AND myself). Homeopathics, flower essences, Rife generators...little to no vaccines...then supplements and non-pharm remedies like MMS/CDS, DMSO, and the like. (I think in this case we may just throw in some Ivermectin as well.) Of course species-appropriate food is #1 from the time we get them (or at least the best we can do at the time!).  Not that surgeries and pharmaceuticals don't have their place; of course they do.  The last few kitties we've had that have passed we did as much as we could for them and let them tell us when it was time (22 years and 17!), and I'm pretty sure we let them live longer than some vets would advise (at least one of my vets! But don't get me started on that. lol). 

Of course that doesn't ever make saying goodbye easier, but I feel like it honors them in the best way possible--to recognize their integrity and their own life's journey. And @sailselan, that's exactly what you did. Your boy was so lucky to be in your life those handful of years!  And maybe he chose you because instinctively he somehow knew you'd help him the best way you knew how <3  Cats are extremely sensitive on so many levels...they are our teachers and at least for me, they've absolutely changed my life for the better.  Anyhoo, I could get super spiritual in this ramble, but I'll just say that the biggest lesson I've learned (not that it's easy bc it sure as hell isn't!)...is once we can love fully and deeply and feel neutrally at peace in challenging situations as these...it's beautiful, less stressful for them and us, and even after our animal friends have passed we can know they were honored fully and cared for as they deserved! <3  

I know Trixie might be gone within weeks or months... But I also know if she has the will and we somehow get this just right, she might live months or years longer. Right now she's acting like her normal crazy self. lol.  But I know she's been in pain, has had trouble eating/drinking and has lost weight...plus has some kidney issues (that we have successfully improved in the last 6 months!). 

@BillPopMMS, I'm checking out your sodium chlorite pdf!  I do have Humble/Kalcker's books and info, and have done some protocols myself as well! Even did the 6 and 6 on my chickens with good success!  Thanks so much for sharing that link.

@sailselan, thank you so much for the advice on giving her all the love I have!  It's a reminder I needed today, not just for Trix but for all our other animals, too! (We have 4 outdoor cats, 6 indoor, 2 dogs, and 10 chooks lolol)  "You get back what you give, so give good!"    Thanks for thinking of us, and know I'm thinking of you, too <3
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