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08 Jul 2026 14:29 #88274 by John Flower
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Good to hear back from you,

Would you casually take 30ml of CDS you ask?

I really only have 20ml at most at once in one glass of water but over a day can easily have 75ml or more. I might have 10ml, 10ml, 15ml etc when I get to it. Again I built up to this and starting at that might make you feel off!!!

If you feel you are coping with the herx or clean out and are not getting too sick from anything, go for it. Clo2 will not hurt you.

I do not do this all the time, just when I need to.
My wife also, if she gets Mastitis for example, she will hammer it and being cleaned out already, we do not have to deal with a herx from a lifetime of buildup. Only from what we just hit, which is minimal if anything.

When I started, I did get a bad herx from it all but I did not back off.

It is good to ask questions, I had them too but over time, I got a good feel for it and that helped me. Conversions are just tricky for this as it is not the same thing.

It helped that I took it at my pace, one thing at a time to see what was working and how I felt and kept at it (the important part).

Never stop learning!

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09 Jul 2026 02:31 - 09 Jul 2026 02:33 #88278 by davetodd
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Everything you say makes sense, even if its not what i want to hear :)

Trusting your gut, feeling into what feels right, this is the correct answer, even if i just wanted some numbers.

I have done so many cleanses and rinses and detoxes over the last 5 years that i never herx any more either. Yes it was a long path to get to that state from the state i started in.

So, how much should i be taking right now?  The right amount, obviously.  Easy.
 
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10 Jul 2026 04:28 - 10 Jul 2026 04:29 #88281 by davetodd
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So last night i felt very yukky in the stomach.  I suspect that i dropped in an extra drop of HCl into my dose.
I make doses on demand rather than use a daily bottle, but i am changing as daily bottle has a number of advantages such as keeping track of consumption and only measuring once.

Anyway yesterday i went from 4 drops each hour for 8 hours (32 drops total) to today just doing 24 drops over 8 hours in a daily bottle.  Lets see what happens.

So i am starting to see the light on CDS vs MMS, and think i would like to move over to CDS now.
How much CDS is 24 daily drops of MMS, how do i move over?  I still just dont get it.  

Any advice on what is a good amount of ml of CDS i should start with?
 
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10 Jul 2026 07:58 #88282 by CLO2
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So last night i felt very yukky in the stomach.  I suspect that i dropped in an extra drop of HCl into my dose.
I make doses on demand rather than use a daily bottle, but i am changing as daily bottle has a number of advantages such as keeping track of consumption and only measuring once.

Anyway yesterday i went from 4 drops each hour for 8 hours (32 drops total) to today just doing 24 drops over 8 hours in a daily bottle.  Lets see what happens.

So i am starting to see the light on CDS vs MMS, and think i would like to move over to CDS now.
How much CDS is 24 daily drops of MMS, how do i move over?  I still just dont get it. It is not possible to compare dosing between MMS1 and CDS. CDS is fully activated when made, and only contains CLO2 gas in water.

The SCS in MMS1 is only 10% activated when pre-activated for 30 seconds. Stomach acid is needed to further activate the residual SCS. BUT, how much more activation will happen depends on the amount of stomach acid that is available at the time of MMS1 ingestion. 

If you will be using CDS, then follow CDS protocols. 

When using MMS1, follow MMS1 protocols. 

CDS and MMS1 are different and act differently when ingested. 


Any advice on what is a good amount of ml of CDS i should start with? Try CDS Protocol-C10 and increase as needed. 

 

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10 Jul 2026 09:40 #88283 by davetodd
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CDS C-10 it is :)

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10 Jul 2026 11:28 #88284 by John Flower
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This is a link to it if anyone needs it

andreaskalcker.com/en/cds-protocols/protocolo-c/

One might build from this to having more, either multiple 1 litre mixed bottles or stronger bottles or both. This is what I have done in the past but to follow the protocol when starting is a good idea. Go from there.

I remember the sick feeling and we did all the work with MMS. We only switched to CDS recently as family would only consume that and I was already making it.

If you go a long way with CDS and progress then stalls, try switching back to MMS at that point.

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10 Jul 2026 11:56 #88286 by CLO2
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This is a link to it if anyone needs it

andreaskalcker.com/en/cds-protocols/protocolo-c/

One might build from this to having more, either multiple 1 litre mixed bottles or stronger bottles or both. This is what I have done in the past but to follow the protocol when starting is a good idea. Go from there.

I remember the sick feeling and we did all the work with MMS. We only switched to CDS recently as family would only consume that and I was already making it.

If you go a long way with CDS and progress then stalls, try switching back to MMS at that point. Or, try CDM. 

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