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17 Mar 2026 09:55 - 17 Mar 2026 10:03 #88033 by CLO2
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MMS1 and CDS—Know the Differences

"We have received a number of questions from people asking about CDS and MMS1. In our communications it is evident that there exists a lot of confusion around this subject. Jim wrote in his MMS Health Recovery Guidebook, in Appendix A (page 307) his personal thoughts on MMS1, CDS and CDH. (Excerpts of this chapter are included at the end of this article).

Jim addressed this subject over the years, and since what he wrote in the MMS Health Recovery Guidebook, mainly during the “pandemic” era 2020—2023, Jim addressed this subject further, both in his writings which until now have not been published, as well as in personal conversations with various people, and in email correspondence.

Below is a compilation of Jim’s stance on this subject, but first, we have listed points on the differences between MMS1 and CDS. It is our hope that this will help to clarify any questions, you, the reader, might have on this vast subject, and more importantly, in hopes that it may be of help to you, or your loved ones in obtaining optimum health."

Good fortune to all of you,
Team Jim Humble (March 10, 2026) 

jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/


 
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30 Mar 2026 01:28 #88055 by Jeranie
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"A 3-drop dose of MMS1 can contain up to 24mg of CLO2. A CDS dose of only 1ml = 3mg of CLO2. That is a big difference."

That's a HUGE difference. 1 ml is around 20 drops, which would mean that 180 drops which is around 2/3 tbsp would be similar to the 3 drops of CL02 mix

I have pretty much switched to CDS because of the taste. This info is very valuable. The CL02 drops reaching the intestines and the CDS not reaching is also very important to know

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30 Mar 2026 06:46 #88056 by CLO2
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"A 3-drop dose of MMS1 can contain up to 24mg of CLO2. A CDS dose of only 1ml = 3mg of CLO2. That is a big difference."

That's a HUGE difference. 1 ml is around 20 drops, which would mean that 180 drops which is around 2/3 tbsp would be similar to the 3 drops of CL02 mix

I have pretty much switched to CDS because of the taste. This info is very valuable. The CL02 drops reaching the intestines and the CDS not reaching is also very important to know
Jeranie, please read the PDF file below. 
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01 Apr 2026 02:11 #88061 by Jeranie
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Thank you. That was a good read. I absorb any and all the information I can get. I drink CDS more as a preventative but use it for teeth and other things. My heath is, so far so good, as it were.

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07 Jul 2026 07:13 - 07 Jul 2026 08:29 #88255 by davetodd
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This thread is the reason i came here.  Some protocols are 2 part (MMS, AD, Sodium Chlorite 25% & activator) and some are 1 part (CDS 3,000 ppm = 0.3%)
There are so many different references to exchange rates between the two, that are wildly different.  There should be a single conversion rate and it should be easy to find.  Examples : 

CDS/ml : MMS/drop

1:1 - 1ml of CDS being equivalent to 1 drop of the traditional MMS product -  www.mmshealthy4life.com/cds

2:1 - 2 mms = 4ml of CDS ... 15 mms = 30ml CDS -  mmsforum.io/general/30187-cds-conversion

8:3 - A 3-drop dose of MMS can contain up to 24mg of CLO2. A CDS dose of only 1ml = 3mg of CLO2.  (Therefore 3 drop MMS = 24mg CLO2 = 8ml CDS) - jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/

1:3 - 1 ml of CDS at 3000 ppm equals a 3-drop dose of MMS -  jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/

10:24 - Goal doses of 3 AD(MMS)/hr for at least 8 hr/day (24 drops) ... Goal 1 mL of CDS (0.3%) every hour, ten times/day (10ml) -  survivalschool.com/forbidden-health-by-andreas-ludwig-klacker-2018/

Is it possible to get a definitive conversion rate?

I am leaning towards 1:3 from reading about and putting puzzle pieces together (1 ml of CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution 0.3%) = 3 drops of MMS (Sodium Chlorite 25%) ) but this is as much a guess as anything.

Interestingly, reading the linked page :  jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/ : it seems to me as if MMS is vastly superior to CDS in every aspect except taste.  If you are truely unwell, the mild taste is the last of your problems.  
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07 Jul 2026 08:33 #88256 by John Flower
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Hello,

I would invite you to try it for yourself (if you have not) and find out. Let us know.

If you ask me, 1ml of CDS is much the same as 1 drop of MMS

They are both different, work in a slightly different way and have different levels of activation.

This will give a different effect, different taste etc.

I can have 15ml of CDS in water no problem.

I can have 15 drops of MMS in water.

Both will give much the same "feeling" in my head but one will taste much worse than the other and will also go to my gut more. This will then be more likely to give Diarrhea but has the benefit of getting further into the gut. Maybe someone will want to use MMS over CDS for that purpose as they have more of a gut problem.

With a lower activation rate, this is more likely but CDS goes straight into the blood as it is fully activated.

For this reason, I also sometimes have had sodium chlorite all on its own, again to get further into the gut.


Think of them as being different recipes. Is a biscuit a 1:1 ratio to bread?

If you try both you will see the difference.

I like both CDS and MMS. Both have a place.

More important is to just get it into you.


All the best!
Borax, Brown's Gas, Vax Shedding fix, Pure Gum Turpentine, Rife, Bob Beck, MWO, Specific Carbohydrate Diet, Raw Green Juice, Zeolite, DMSO, Ozone, H2o2, Clo2 and keeping your wits about you.

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08 Jul 2026 02:44 - 08 Jul 2026 02:47 #88262 by davetodd
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I love your response, in its vibe.

Given the difference in conversion ratios in different references, it scares me that there is no single agreed conversion ratio.

I am on day 5 of starting this protocol.
Day 1 was 6 drops in a day
Day 2 was 12 drops in a day
Day 3 was 18 drops in a day
Day 4 was 24 drops in a day
Day 5 will be 24 drops in a day

This is a rushed variation of Protocol B (basic) from : survivalschool.com/forbidden-health-by-andreas-ludwig-klacker-2018/
But even that web site moves between drops of MMS and ml of CDS in a way that just doesnt make sense to me.

My issue is brain cancer and seizures, so into the head is the main target.  I was given 2 months to live, and that was 5 years ago.
I have ordered some CDS as well as the MMS i have. I am open to both, but i am looking to get the right amount in the right place, and getting a straight answer is challenging.
I will consider moving to more (30) drops in a day soon, when it feels right. Would you casually take 30ml of CDS?

I am also a big fan of : Borax, Rife, Raw Green Juice, Zeolite, DMSO, Ozone,  and keeping your wits about you.
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08 Jul 2026 06:23 - 08 Jul 2026 06:32 #88265 by CLO2
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This thread is the reason i came here.  Some protocols are 2 part (MMS, AD, Sodium Chlorite 25% & activator) and some are 1 part (CDS 3,000 ppm = 0.3%)
There are so many different references to exchange rates between the two, that are wildly different.  There should be a single conversion rate and it should be easy to find.  Examples : 

CDS/ml : MMS/drop

1:1 - 1ml of CDS being equivalent to 1 drop of the traditional MMS product -  www.mmshealthy4life.com/cds

2:1 - 2 mms = 4ml of CDS ... 15 mms = 30ml CDS -  mmsforum.io/general/30187-cds-conversion

8:3 - A 3-drop dose of MMS can contain up to 24mg of CLO2. A CDS dose of only 1ml = 3mg of CLO2.  (Therefore 3 drop MMS = 24mg CLO2 = 8ml CDS) - jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/

1:3 - 1 ml of CDS at 3000 ppm equals a 3-drop dose of MMS -  jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/

10:24 - Goal doses of 3 AD(MMS)/hr for at least 8 hr/day (24 drops) ... Goal 1 mL of CDS (0.3%) every hour, ten times/day (10ml) -  survivalschool.com/forbidden-health-by-andreas-ludwig-klacker-2018/

Is it possible to get a definitive conversion rate?

I am leaning towards 1:3 from reading about and putting puzzle pieces together (1 ml of CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution 0.3%) = 3 drops of MMS (Sodium Chlorite 25%) ) but this is as much a guess as anything.

Interestingly, reading the linked page :  jimhumble.co/2026/03/14/mms1-and-cds-know-the-difference/ : it seems to me as if MMS is vastly superior to CDS in every aspect except taste.  If you are truely unwell, the mild taste is the least of your problems.  
Trying to compare CDS dosing with MMS1 dosing is not possible due to the varying amounts of stomach acid that MMS1 needs, and was designed that way by Jim Humble. 

When MMS1 is made by combining "drops" of 22.4% SCS with an equal number of drops of an acid, and pre-activated for 30 seconds, only 10% of CLO2 will have been released from the SCS that could be available with more activation. 

CDS and MMS1 are not the same and they act differently when ingested. CDS does not travel beyond the stomach, Andreas Kalcker says. The residual SCS in MMS1 does continue past the stomach and into the intestines. That is why MMS1 can cure Malaria and Autism, and CDS can not. But, CDS can help with or cure many other diseases. 

The taste problem with MMS1 compared to CDS can be fixed if CDM is used. 
Thanks to Maria in France for making this graphic. 
   


 
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08 Jul 2026 07:34 - 08 Jul 2026 10:01 #88266 by davetodd
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When MMS1 is made by combining "drops" of 22.4% SCS with an equal number of drops of an acid, and pre-activated for 30 seconds, only 10% of CLO2 will have been released from the SCS that could be available with more activation. 

The residual SCS in MMS1 does continue past the stomach and into the intestines.

MMS may be activated elsewhere in the body, even if stomach acid is below normal.

So, even if only 10% (of the CLO2 in SCS) is released before consumption, 'more' is release after consumption.  Not just in the stomach via stomach acid, but elsewhere in the body.  I appreciate why nobody can put a number on that, how much and where, as we are all individuals with very different bio chemistry.  

This leaves me with 2 questions:

1. Is 100% (of the CLO2 in CDS) released during consumption? 

2. What happens to the CLO2 that is not released at all?  Where is it excreted, can it be measured? 
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08 Jul 2026 10:03 - 08 Jul 2026 10:10 #88267 by CLO2
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When MMS1 is made by combining "drops" of 22.4% SCS with an equal number of drops of an acid, and pre-activated for 30 seconds, only 10% of CLO2 will have been released from the SCS that could be available with more activation. 

The residual SCS in MMS1 does continue past the stomach and into the intestines.

MMS may be activated elsewhere in the body, even if stomach acid is below normal.

So, even if only 10% (of the CLO2 in SCS) is released before consumption, 'more' is release after consumption.  Not just in the stomach via stomach acid, but elsewhere in the body.  I appreciate why nobody can put a number on that, how much and where, as we are all individuals with very different bio chemistry.  

This leaves me with 2 questions:

1. Is 100% (of the CLO2 in CDS) released during consumption? 
Most, if not all, of the CLO2 in CDS is released during the activation of SCS by an acid when CDS is made. (Citric acid is best because it does not gas into the CDS water like other acids can do, such as HCL, which raises the TDS). CDS is not affected by stomach acid or other acids it meets in the body, as far as I know. 

MMS1 does contain a lot of residual SCS which can release more CLO2 if it encounters acids anywhere it travels in the body. 

2. What happens to the CLO2 that is not released at all?  Where is it excreted, can it be measured? 
CDS does not contain any residual SCS, so no additional CLO2 can be released when it is ingested. 

I do not know how any additionally released CLO2 in the body from MMS1 can be measured. We can estimate how much CLO2 can be locked up in unactivated SCS, since we know that in 0.05ml (one drop) of it, a maximum of 8mg of CLO2 exists. Not all of that CLO2 can be released, so less than 8mg/0.05ml will actually be obtained. 





 
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