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Hi everyone! My name is Adam and I am new here

I have been dealing with something unknown for about a full year now. My main symptoms are chronic daily headaches and sinus pressure 24/7, tinnitus, vertigo & dizziness, brain fog, fatigue, joint pain. Doctors have zero answers for me and say all my tests say I'm perfectly health. Nothing further from the truth- recently had to leave school for semester because it is so bad. 2 rounds of antibiotics did nothing. Steroids did nothing. Nothing eases the pain and discomfort of these 24/7 headaches. I am seeing a naturopathic doctor now but I want to try this first.

I am thinking this is either a virus, fungus, bacteria, or parasite. a few other people have the same issues in my immediate area and it has persisted for them as well. One girl got it same time as me. It seems like a virus but I don't know.

After researching and watching some of the YouTube videos I decided I would try Protocol 115. I started with 1 ml of CDS on each dose every 15 minutes. But after that I continued to take the same dose every hour for 6 hours. I feel like when I started taking CDS all the areas where this illness seems to be affecting me is going through a lot of changes. It seems like it is kicking up whatever has been reeking havoc on my body. So its maybe a little more than I was feeling earlier. I wouldn't say I feel all that bad, but I do notice its had some kind of effect. I hope that it is either virus/bacteria/fungus just dying off and making things temporarily worse because of the die off. Here is my first question.

1. Does the illness get worse before it gets better when taking CDS or MMS during first 24 hours?

I would imagine that would be the case especially for a fungus or virus. So that's where I'm at so far but I have a bunch more questions. I read about diet and avoiding antioxidants as much as possible during protocol hours. Its hard to find food that doesn't contain some level of antioxidant. But for the most part I have been fasting through those periods. Today, I waited 3 hours from the last time I had a meal with antioxidants. Then I started the protocol. I had as little to eat as possible for the additional 6 hours where i switched to protocol 101.

2. I will avoid coffee and tea, and foods high in antioxidants as much as I can while attempting this, but is it ok to eat and drink some of that stuff on my off time from the protocol?

3. What happens when we are in the off time? Doesn't the virus/fungus/bacteria just reproduce and come back in the off hours like when I sleep? In other words, If I do protocol 115 or 101 for 6 hours, what is happening in the body? Why don't we need to take it every hour 24/7?

4. Would it be more or less successful if I stick to just those 2 hours dosing every 15 minutes (protocol 115), and stop the protocol 101? Obviously I am not as ill as many other people who use this, but I want this illness to go away bad!

I also bought DMSO 99.95% to add if I need.

I can't seem to find the Jim Humble Recovery Guide book because the bookstore is down or under construction. Does it go by other names? Is it the same as Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Century?

Those are my questions. Thanks, Adam

Hello Adam and welcome to the G2C Forum.

You can buy Jim Humble's latest book MMS Health Recovery Guidebook here.

The book is full of great info on MMS, but you won't find much on CDS or CDH. I have made charts that I believe will allow you to use CDS and CDH with MMS protocols found in the book. Those charts are here.

I would not worry about eating most foods that contain antioxidants except those known to high in them. You don't need to fast while following MMS protocols. You can eat anything and take all supplements one hour after the last MMS dose of the day.

Yes, you can take MMS hourly for as many hours as you want for possibly better/faster results. CDS protocols 101 and 115 are not G2C approved. That does not mean CDS and CDH don't work, because they do. I am a big fan of both, but use all three; MMS1, CDS and CDH. They all have their place. Some say that MMS1 is the best, but I think that is because it has been around much longer than CDS or CDH. Another reason is that in the past, both CDS and CDH were under dosed causing a lower intake of CLO2 compared to MMS1.

If you are getting results doing what you have described, then continue doing so. If not, then try something else. The Health Recovery Plan (HRP) described in Jim's book may be what you are looking for. One always begins by following the Starting Procedure. My version includes dosing with CDS and CDH.

Its been almost 48 hours and the symptoms have not gone away but I can feel a lot happening when I started the protocol again this morning for day 3 using 2ml of CDS every 15 minutes for 2 hours followed by protocol 101. Then I got really tired and my symptoms got worse by the end. I am starting to think this is not a virus or bacteria but either fungus or heavy metal related. Perhaps a systemic fungus/mold infection. I can handle the CDS just fine it doesn't seem to make me sick at all. No nausea, no upset stomach, no diarrhea, etc. I don't feel like too much CDS is the issue here. The symptoms are the kicking up of whatever has infected my body. I have these symptoms even when I don't take CDS. It seems they go dormant for a week or so and then they get really bad for reasons unknown. I wish I had a definitive answer as to what my illness is.

Would I be correct in saying that if this is a fungus/mold I should expect to feel worse from all the die off? And that any fungus/mold would take longer to clear because of the biofilms they use to keep their operation going against anything anti-fungal?

And using MMS/CDS for mold/fungus would take about 3 weeks? Or longer? Would it help to take antifungal herbs while in my off hours?

The CDS is going fast! I think it would be better for me to start over with MMS because I will be running out of the CDS soon and I won't be able to order again until Monday. Then it will be at least 3 days before I have it delivered. MMS would last me way longer. I'm sure I'll be able to handle the taste. Then I will just follow the protocol exact and hopefully I can get my health back!

I don't think I am going to buy that paperback version of Health Recovery Guide on Amazon because it is $36. Too expensive. Hopefully the Jim Humble book store will be back online soon so I can buy the ebook version. I would like to get the E-book. What about Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millenium? Isn't that just an updated version?

Jim's new MMS book is very different from his previous MMS books. You really need all three of them.

If you suspect you have a fungus/mold problem, then try using clay. Jim's new book has a nine page fungus/mold protocol for internal and external use.

It is easy to make CDS with MMS and activator, once you have the proper containers, using the overnight method. If you buy MMS I suggest not to buy 50% citric acid activator. Four percent HCL will taste better and should not bother your stomach like citric acid can.

Whatever your ailment is, it will probably take time to eradicate it using MMS1/MMS2/CDS/CDH. Tiredness is a common side effect when following MMS protocols.

Ok I will get these books but it would be nice if I could find the first one for cheaper than $36 or as ebook. I should look into the clay. Is this the same as diatomaceous earth?

Is 4.6% HCL ok or do I need 4% exactly?

I am almost certain this is exposure to mold. I used to grow plants indoors and last year there was mold on my air conditioner unit. Not to mention, they are finding mold and mycotoxins used in geoengineering and we're getting absolutely hammered by it where I live.

If this stuff works, I hope to take the class and possibly become a member of G2C. I want to help the world and heal people because its needed more than ever and the modern medical establishment is a big screw job. Most of the people working in it mean well and want to do good but they function in a paradigm and school of thought that doesn't really understand health at all and treats symptoms as the illness. Then the ones at the top withhold information keeping people sick because it makes them money. Cures are not good for business. Its a shame really! I'm tired of watching people poison themselves with chemotherapy and all these drugs with horrible side effects!

In the Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium, he says only to use citric acid, has this changed? does he recognize Hcl acid now?

Jim still uses citric acid, but prefers 4% HCL. HCL is the same acid found in our stomachs, citric acid is not! Many people can not tolerate citric acid. They now believe many of the problems people experienced in the past using MMS was caused by the citric acid activator. And, too much was used in making MMS1.

Sure, 4.6% HCL would be fine to make MMS1. If you want to make CDH, then 4% HCL should be used. It is easy to dilute down to a lower percentage by adding distilled water.

DE is not the same as clay. To quote from Jim's book:

The clay I recommend to use for this protocol has several names: Aztec clay, bentonite clay (calcium bentonite is preferred, or montmorillonite clay (from France).

If I was you I would grab the new book while it is available. The G2C is having problems in getting the book to market due to the same problem people you described in your last paragraph (post #55520).

I did grab the Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millenium. I do have that now. I have been reading through it since that time. I just also picked up a MMS kit with Hcl activator. This should last me much longer than the CDS that was pre-made. When 2 ml of CDS equals one drop of MMS you really just fly right through that stuff. Hopefully I will get it this week because I'm already out of CDS.

What are some good places to get MMS from?