- Posts: 27
- Thank you received: 3
New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
- aseall13
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
Less
More
02 May 2014 20:51 #43905
by aseall13
Replied by aseall13 on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Hi pam, we'll the main problem is me....having had persistent candida issues and the fact that i had a dreaded csection with dreaded antibiotics (i could kick myself for allowing that!)....my son seems to have great health (i breastfeed him and don't plan on weaning for a while, I/we eat gaps/paleo, I give him daily various probiotics in goats milk yogurt mixed with goats milk kefir, I give him fermented veggie juice, and aim for daily fermented cod liver oil. All that aside I just worry t with how tenacious these pathogens are that even though he may not be presenting symptoms now, I want to make sure that these bad guys are not setting up shop in his gut and I am determined to clear my body of them not only for him but for the next baby too.
All that being said, I am utterly overwhelmed with all the info there is to learn. I am so confused on whether I should add in the parasite protocol for myself too. I think it's a good idea for myself, but isn't 17 months too young for the PP for my son? I would be very hard pressed to get ANY supplements in him....I am going to do mms protocol for him but I think I'm going to give it to him in a dropper (good idea?). And I'm going to *try* to give him DE in some water. Idk about the meb though and I really don't know about the enemas. Same with trying to give him OW....that's going to be tough. Baths will be easy, but enemas for a 17mo?
Idk...do you guys think 1) I should be doing the pp protocol for myself? 2) if so do I indeed need to keep up the pp for a full year or is that just for autistic kids? 3) should I be doing the pp for my son, even though idk how I'm going to get any of that stuff in him. 4) if you think I should, how long...a year? That seems like a long time at his young age, esp when he's displaying zero behavior issues? 5) how long do you guys recommend I do the mms protocol 1000 for myself and for my son? Jim says 21 days....do most ppl do longer? 6) I am thoroughly confused about dosing, esp for my son. The book hasn't arrived yet, so I'm sure it will explain, but I am thoroughly confused on how many total drops to activate for my 22 lb son as the final ramped up dose and how many drops I need to activate for myself (155lbs) as my final ramped up dose.
I am really trying to find these answers in previous posts, as I hate being the newbie asking redundant ?s wasting mods time, but I'm having difficulty wading through all the info:/
Tia!
Alexis
All that being said, I am utterly overwhelmed with all the info there is to learn. I am so confused on whether I should add in the parasite protocol for myself too. I think it's a good idea for myself, but isn't 17 months too young for the PP for my son? I would be very hard pressed to get ANY supplements in him....I am going to do mms protocol for him but I think I'm going to give it to him in a dropper (good idea?). And I'm going to *try* to give him DE in some water. Idk about the meb though and I really don't know about the enemas. Same with trying to give him OW....that's going to be tough. Baths will be easy, but enemas for a 17mo?
Idk...do you guys think 1) I should be doing the pp protocol for myself? 2) if so do I indeed need to keep up the pp for a full year or is that just for autistic kids? 3) should I be doing the pp for my son, even though idk how I'm going to get any of that stuff in him. 4) if you think I should, how long...a year? That seems like a long time at his young age, esp when he's displaying zero behavior issues? 5) how long do you guys recommend I do the mms protocol 1000 for myself and for my son? Jim says 21 days....do most ppl do longer? 6) I am thoroughly confused about dosing, esp for my son. The book hasn't arrived yet, so I'm sure it will explain, but I am thoroughly confused on how many total drops to activate for my 22 lb son as the final ramped up dose and how many drops I need to activate for myself (155lbs) as my final ramped up dose.
I am really trying to find these answers in previous posts, as I hate being the newbie asking redundant ?s wasting mods time, but I'm having difficulty wading through all the info:/
Tia!
Alexis
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- pam
-
- Offline
- Platinum Boarder
-
Less
More
- Posts: 4593
- Thank you received: 3706
02 May 2014 22:18 - 02 May 2014 22:28 #43909
by pam
Replied by pam on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
If you treat your child for parasites, you should also be treating yourself for parasites. The whole protocol is the best bet, however, if you are breastfeeding, Kerri would say to wait until you are finished with that process before doing a detox. .
Have you read Kerri's book? It would be good to do that. It sounds as though you're really not ready to have your son on the protocol, 17 months is awfully young - you may want to wait until the child is older or you actually see symptoms.
Pam
Have you read Kerri's book? It would be good to do that. It sounds as though you're really not ready to have your son on the protocol, 17 months is awfully young - you may want to wait until the child is older or you actually see symptoms.
Pam
Last edit: 02 May 2014 22:28 by pam.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- aseall13
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 27
- Thank you received: 3
02 May 2014 22:28 #43910
by aseall13
Replied by aseall13 on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Hmmmm, well I was pretty set on having my son go through the mms protocol, just unsure if I should have him on the pp protocol as well. You say that if I treat my son for parasites I should treat myself for parasites, which is very logical....but my question really is for the other way around: If I'm treating myself for parasites, which sounds maybe like a good idea, should I then also try treating my son for parasites, or is he too young?
I'd be interested to learn your results of the email survey!
I do have kerris book, just got Jim and kerris book today actually, but since all the kids in kerris book are autistic, and are older I'm not sure how much of it would really apply to our situation? (I am skimming through kerris book but i actually plan on gifting it to my neighbors who have a severely autistic 15 yo who I think they have lost hope for:/.)
I'd be interested to learn your results of the email survey!
I do have kerris book, just got Jim and kerris book today actually, but since all the kids in kerris book are autistic, and are older I'm not sure how much of it would really apply to our situation? (I am skimming through kerris book but i actually plan on gifting it to my neighbors who have a severely autistic 15 yo who I think they have lost hope for:/.)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- aseall13
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 27
- Thank you received: 3
02 May 2014 22:36 - 02 May 2014 22:38 #43911
by aseall13
Replied by aseall13 on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
There is another candida protocol by another dr that I was considering, ie detoxing, where it is guaranteed safe for breastfeeding, and that seems encouraging that a mms protocol would also be safe for breastfeeding. ...plus the fact that Jim says that mms is safe for pregnant mothers....it seems to follow it is also safe for breastfeeding? It seems that either way my son is getting toxins, either from the toxins released by my current candida overgrowth and/or the ones my son may possibly have being released from potential pathogens in his own gut (again I don't know this for sure, but he did have cradle cap when a baby and it does make sense that he would inherit some of my pathogens). I would rather act now than have to do the mms protocol for him later on. So yes, I actually am ready to have him on the mms prtocol, just completely unsure about the PP:/.
And i plan on letting him self - wean and would also like to get pregnant again in the next year or so, as I am already 34 and am no spring chicken.
And i plan on letting him self - wean and would also like to get pregnant again in the next year or so, as I am already 34 and am no spring chicken.
Last edit: 02 May 2014 22:38 by aseall13.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- pam
-
- Offline
- Platinum Boarder
-
Less
More
- Posts: 4593
- Thank you received: 3706
02 May 2014 22:47 #43912
by pam
Replied by pam on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Here's the information from Kerri's book:
I knew there was something in the book on this, but it took me a while to think of the right word to search to find it (p141):
"How young is too young for CD?
There is no age that is too young. If a baby is showing signs of cold/flu,
etc., you can start with the baby bottle method, one drop in 8 fl. oz. of
water, so they are getting 1/8 of 1 drop per dose. The protocols are based
on weight."
I knew there was something in the book on this, but it took me a while to think of the right word to search to find it (p141):
"How young is too young for CD?
There is no age that is too young. If a baby is showing signs of cold/flu,
etc., you can start with the baby bottle method, one drop in 8 fl. oz. of
water, so they are getting 1/8 of 1 drop per dose. The protocols are based
on weight."
The following user(s) said Thank You: aseall13
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- aseall13
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 27
- Thank you received: 3
02 May 2014 22:57 - 02 May 2014 23:04 #43913
by aseall13
Replied by aseall13 on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Nice! Thank you!
You know I think I am actually going to keep kerris book and just order another copy for my neighbors. I'm looking through and finding tons if useful info.
Ok, so I am set on doing the mms protocol 1000 both for me and for my son. [...including douche for me and cd baths for us both. I am going to do enemas for myself and *try* to attempt them for my son. Not sure how to handle this though bc he hasn't even used the potty once. (Any tips for the enema part? Should I avoid them altogether with my son or attempt them?)]
Now this leaves me to the PP decision. I would like to do it myself, but do you think I should do the PP for my son? If so, how long should I do it and how long should he do it? A full year?
again, thank you so much!
(Forgot to mention that I am anemic and B12 deficient....I've had issues with that before and got my iron up with blue bonnet iron. ...I am wondering if the deficiencies mean parasites)
You know I think I am actually going to keep kerris book and just order another copy for my neighbors. I'm looking through and finding tons if useful info.
Ok, so I am set on doing the mms protocol 1000 both for me and for my son. [...including douche for me and cd baths for us both. I am going to do enemas for myself and *try* to attempt them for my son. Not sure how to handle this though bc he hasn't even used the potty once. (Any tips for the enema part? Should I avoid them altogether with my son or attempt them?)]
Now this leaves me to the PP decision. I would like to do it myself, but do you think I should do the PP for my son? If so, how long should I do it and how long should he do it? A full year?
again, thank you so much!
(Forgot to mention that I am anemic and B12 deficient....I've had issues with that before and got my iron up with blue bonnet iron. ...I am wondering if the deficiencies mean parasites)
Last edit: 02 May 2014 23:04 by aseall13.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- pam
-
- Offline
- Platinum Boarder
-
Less
More
- Posts: 4593
- Thank you received: 3706
03 May 2014 00:08 - 03 May 2014 00:10 #43917
by pam
Replied by pam on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
I have found that the online version (which is cheaper) is a lot easier to search for things - just as an aside.
Many moms have found that the enemas are not an issue - or, to be more truthful, that the enema is THEIR issue, not their childs
. Does the child understand language? If so, you could show an enema on you and do a little social story. Usually, fairly quickly, they realize it makes them feel better, and some even ask for them now. I can recommend the FB CD/Autism groups for lots of good information on how to do it via that protocol.
The traditional kalcker protocol is done 12-18 months - unless the child gets below a score of 10 on an ATEC - at which point, the child has lost the autism diagnosis, pretty much. Anemia and B12 may be an issue re: parasites - just had a mom today tell me that she has been anemic forever (single kidney, too) - and that just doing the PP (and she added the keto diet) - her anemia is now gone. Her doc was in shock. B12 is also something that feeds parasites. They're just happy campers in there, feeding on our food!
Many moms have found that the enemas are not an issue - or, to be more truthful, that the enema is THEIR issue, not their childs
. Does the child understand language? If so, you could show an enema on you and do a little social story. Usually, fairly quickly, they realize it makes them feel better, and some even ask for them now. I can recommend the FB CD/Autism groups for lots of good information on how to do it via that protocol.The traditional kalcker protocol is done 12-18 months - unless the child gets below a score of 10 on an ATEC - at which point, the child has lost the autism diagnosis, pretty much. Anemia and B12 may be an issue re: parasites - just had a mom today tell me that she has been anemic forever (single kidney, too) - and that just doing the PP (and she added the keto diet) - her anemia is now gone. Her doc was in shock. B12 is also something that feeds parasites. They're just happy campers in there, feeding on our food!
Last edit: 03 May 2014 00:10 by pam.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- aseall13
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 27
- Thank you received: 3
03 May 2014 00:30 #43919
by aseall13
Replied by aseall13 on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Great advice actually....he understands commands, has a handful of words and is a very good little pointer and communicator, so there is a chance he may understand. i will attempt to show him mommy doing the enema and we do have a little potty i could put him on do try his. And if i try a few times and he hates it, well then i wont force the issue.
i am wondering, do you think i could administer the mms to him in a dropper? same with the OW and DE?
i have a new fb friend who is 2 months into the cd protocol for her autistic 5yo and she added me to the cd autism group the other night, so i have been reading through the documents absorbing as much info as i can.
hmmmm, that is very interesting that she was able to get her iron up! i am hoping that mine will come up too. i read that iron also feeds candida, but its very interesting to me to find out that parasites also love it. i have also been B12 deficient. should i not supplement iron and/or B12 while doing the mms and pp, or should i just wait a couple hours after my last dose of the day?
ok, I am becoming convinced that the pp is for us and i will attempt what i can with my son.
i am wondering, do you think i could administer the mms to him in a dropper? same with the OW and DE?
i have a new fb friend who is 2 months into the cd protocol for her autistic 5yo and she added me to the cd autism group the other night, so i have been reading through the documents absorbing as much info as i can.
hmmmm, that is very interesting that she was able to get her iron up! i am hoping that mine will come up too. i read that iron also feeds candida, but its very interesting to me to find out that parasites also love it. i have also been B12 deficient. should i not supplement iron and/or B12 while doing the mms and pp, or should i just wait a couple hours after my last dose of the day?
ok, I am becoming convinced that the pp is for us and i will attempt what i can with my son.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- postmarkedheaven
-
- Offline
- Premium Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 80
- Thank you received: 44
04 May 2014 16:08 #43990
by postmarkedheaven
Replied by postmarkedheaven on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Hey Aseall13,
I am a homeschooling mama so I am limited how much I can check the forum and reply. You are on the RIGHT track. I can give you exactly what we are doing so you don't have to hop around to different treatments because that is tough. I did that for years and my husband was frustrated with me because I would start something and the not get the quickest results and then hop on to the next fad candida diet or supplement. I am finding that what I am doing now with mms is the best and safest detox and cheapest. I am feeling better and better. I have Kerri's book and Jim's book and both are good at explaining but for young ones with candida it still leaves some gaps in that Kerri's book and Jim's book give us just enough but not the specifics that you and I as concerned mamas desire for our questions.
First things first focus on you getting healed:
Start protocol 1000 for yourself, do douche protocol and water enemas in the evening. Constipation is your worse enemy. I find that I did not do enemas if I had to do an mms enema, but just water to get the toxins out is easier so I will do that.
Take Magnesium oil, try to get enough minerals in at least one cup of bone broth a day. We also do water kefir with pastured egg shells in the mix to get the natural elemental calcium carbonate.
Here's a website for easy perpetual bone broth in a crockpot:
nourishedkitchen.com/perpetual-soup-the-easiest-bone-broth-youll-make/
Magnesium oil, spray on yourself and kids, if it stings lower the concentration:
wellnessmama.com/5804/how-to-make-your-own-magnesium-oil/
Diatomaceous earth for family: this is the only parasite protocol I would do until you stop breastfeeding:
wellnessmama.com/13213/uses-diatomaceous-earth/
DO NOT DO ANY DAIRY, even fermented. Candida love mucous and dairy is mucous loving so do water kefir. If you don't have a friend that you can get water kefir grains from here is a great site. We do a little cheese and yogurt once a week but have limited our raw dairy until we are done with the mucous. You will notice that MMS will be causing loads of sneezing, blowing, coughing up loads of biofilm mucous.
www.culturesforhealth.com/
I am a homeschooling mama so I am limited how much I can check the forum and reply. You are on the RIGHT track. I can give you exactly what we are doing so you don't have to hop around to different treatments because that is tough. I did that for years and my husband was frustrated with me because I would start something and the not get the quickest results and then hop on to the next fad candida diet or supplement. I am finding that what I am doing now with mms is the best and safest detox and cheapest. I am feeling better and better. I have Kerri's book and Jim's book and both are good at explaining but for young ones with candida it still leaves some gaps in that Kerri's book and Jim's book give us just enough but not the specifics that you and I as concerned mamas desire for our questions.
First things first focus on you getting healed:
Start protocol 1000 for yourself, do douche protocol and water enemas in the evening. Constipation is your worse enemy. I find that I did not do enemas if I had to do an mms enema, but just water to get the toxins out is easier so I will do that.
Take Magnesium oil, try to get enough minerals in at least one cup of bone broth a day. We also do water kefir with pastured egg shells in the mix to get the natural elemental calcium carbonate.
Here's a website for easy perpetual bone broth in a crockpot:
nourishedkitchen.com/perpetual-soup-the-easiest-bone-broth-youll-make/
Magnesium oil, spray on yourself and kids, if it stings lower the concentration:
wellnessmama.com/5804/how-to-make-your-own-magnesium-oil/
Diatomaceous earth for family: this is the only parasite protocol I would do until you stop breastfeeding:
wellnessmama.com/13213/uses-diatomaceous-earth/
DO NOT DO ANY DAIRY, even fermented. Candida love mucous and dairy is mucous loving so do water kefir. If you don't have a friend that you can get water kefir grains from here is a great site. We do a little cheese and yogurt once a week but have limited our raw dairy until we are done with the mucous. You will notice that MMS will be causing loads of sneezing, blowing, coughing up loads of biofilm mucous.
www.culturesforhealth.com/
The following user(s) said Thank You: veritas, Horsefeathers, aseall13
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- postmarkedheaven
-
- Offline
- Premium Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 80
- Thank you received: 44
04 May 2014 16:18 #43993
by postmarkedheaven
Replied by postmarkedheaven on topic New to mms....general questions @ diet, how to mix up mms, breastfeeding
Here is how to do water kefir with eggshells or you can make eggshell water and give everyone a tablespoon twice a day.
www.deliciousobsessions.com/2012/07/52-weeks-of-bad-a-bacteria-week-26-how-to-make-water-kefir/
Eggshell water:
www.bulkherbstore.com/how-to/Make_Eggshell_Water
So... get plenty of minerals and if you are constantly constipated like me then that is a sign you are magnesium deficient. I make concentrated magnesium chloride pills using parts mag chlor to one part water dissolved stored in glass jar with dropper and fill a size 00 capsule and take morning and night and spray the mag oil on tense muscles and where the girls have leg cramps.
www.deliciousobsessions.com/2012/07/52-weeks-of-bad-a-bacteria-week-26-how-to-make-water-kefir/
Eggshell water:
www.bulkherbstore.com/how-to/Make_Eggshell_Water
So... get plenty of minerals and if you are constantly constipated like me then that is a sign you are magnesium deficient. I make concentrated magnesium chloride pills using parts mag chlor to one part water dissolved stored in glass jar with dropper and fill a size 00 capsule and take morning and night and spray the mag oil on tense muscles and where the girls have leg cramps.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Researcher, Horsefeathers
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 1.587 seconds