CDS - Chlorine Dioxide Solution: Chlorine dioxide gas put in water

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14 Dec 2024 13:29 - 14 Dec 2024 15:31 #84998 by healthfreedom79
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I have a question regarding making CDS.
I am making it right now with the shot glass inside a container.
the shot glass is very small but high and I put 5ml of MMS and 5 ml of HCL 4% in it yesterday around 1700hrs.
it is now 1400 hrs and it is still brownish inside the shot glass but the water is already very yellow.
i put 250ml of water in the container.
I know the video states to do 2 times 24hrs with 5ml each.
it is kind of cold in the kitchen where I make the solution and I was wondering how much this could affect the reaction and reactiontime of the 2 components.
 
UPDATE: almost 24hrs and still brownish/red in the small shot glass. it is nice sunflower yellow.
I am going to let it sit for another 24hrs.



 
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15 Dec 2024 10:41 #85015 by CLO2
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You can make Quick CDS in about 3 hours time. 
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15 Dec 2024 11:11 #85016 by healthfreedom79
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yes I know. I was just using the older technique because I have everything to do that.
but it is slower than I had seen on the video you shared and also it is very yellow after 24 hrs.
I now put in a bigger surfaced glass and after about 1 hr it is almost very strong colored yellow already.
I will wait until the activator is the same color as the water around. I doubt if I have to do a second round of activation because its so strong colored yellow.

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15 Dec 2024 11:40 #85017 by healthfreedom79
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have you seen this method. it is even faster than 3 hrs

dioxitube.com/w/mg85PXDp8iTbgUmohES2mQ

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15 Dec 2024 15:56 #85022 by Jeranie
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Lower temps definitely slow the process. 70 and above seems to work best for me

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15 Dec 2024 16:11 - 15 Dec 2024 16:12 #85024 by CLO2
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Yes, we used to make it that way many years ago, but we stopped because sometimes the setup would explode, which happened to me. That is why I developed the overnight methods including the dual infusion method when using 4% HCL, that Andreas shows in his video. 

See attached PDF file showing the dual infusion method. The file is on my website, which is where Andreas found it. 
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15 Dec 2024 17:59 - 15 Dec 2024 18:07 #85026 by healthfreedom79
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ok thanks, good to know. I dont want explosions in my kitchen thank you!

well I now did a new batch with a bigger glass this morning in the cold kitchen and it looks like it is ready and very well saturated.
I am going to do a 2nd time anyway just to see the difference with the first batch color-wise.
is there a maximum saturation in ppm cause I dont want to overdo it.
thanks in advance

update: seeing your pdf helped me answer that question to. thanks
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29 Dec 2024 21:34 #85160 by healthfreedom79
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update:

I did a second batch of CDS with the same technique. the second batch I did another 24hrs with new 5ml SCS and 5ml HCL.
not any difference in color though.
so I guess only a single time is needed if making CDS in colder environment.
I will test this again if I have test strips just to be sure!

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01 Jan 2025 23:19 #85186 by RJi
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I think that's a very neat method if mass producing is your goal. I would modify it with one larger container instead of bottles and a tube back to a pump that has air input to make it truly closed loop so no gas is lost. Maybe use less heat in the reaction bottle to make it safer.

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02 Jan 2025 07:18 #85191 by healthfreedom79
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i have heard of explosions while using that method. I have also seen someone who puts the bottle in icy water.
But I dont make that much CDS now so i stick with the safe method for now.
just great to see I need even less product to make the same amount of CDS.
Takes a little longer but hey no rush!

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