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CDS - Chlorine Dioxide Solution: Chlorine dioxide gas put in water
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08 Apr 2021 20:33 #68591
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Hello i wondered if anyone has any thoughts about this. I am taking 40 ml of cds a day, if i drink a gallon of water normally throughout an 8 hour period, would there be any reason to not mix the cds in my gallon of water and drink it all throughout the day. In doing this i will avoid the burning in my throat and it will keep cds in my system constantly for 8 hours
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08 Apr 2021 20:53 #68592
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That idea is basically an all-day bottle of CLO2, dosed hourly until gone.
It is important, if possible, to keep the bottle cold, below 10C (50F), so CLO2 will outgas less when the bottle is opened to take out a dose. You might want to split the gallon of CDS water into smaller bottles. And keep sunlight away from the bottles, as ultraviolet light will cause outgassing.
Since CDS is highly diluted in that much water, there is no need to add additional water to each hourly dose.
It is important, if possible, to keep the bottle cold, below 10C (50F), so CLO2 will outgas less when the bottle is opened to take out a dose. You might want to split the gallon of CDS water into smaller bottles. And keep sunlight away from the bottles, as ultraviolet light will cause outgassing.
Since CDS is highly diluted in that much water, there is no need to add additional water to each hourly dose.
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08 Apr 2021 21:05 #68594
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would there be any issue keeping it in a stainless steel bottle?
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08 Apr 2021 21:23 #68596
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If using CDS, stainless steel should be okay to use. But not okay if using MMS1 or CDH.
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16 Aug 2021 23:18 #70490
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This is from Andreas Kalcker's site:
andreaskalcker.com/cds-clo2/precauciones-del-cds.html
"Do not use metal containers! Metal containers react with chlorine dioxide as they oxidize. This includes stainless steel, as it is an alloy that contains various metals, such as nickel and chromium."
"Do not use metal containers! Metal containers react with chlorine dioxide as they oxidize. This includes stainless steel, as it is an alloy that contains various metals, such as nickel and chromium."
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16 Aug 2021 23:31 - 16 Aug 2021 23:34 #70491
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Yes, I know AK says that. Others say the opposite. AK does not know everything.
"The Myths and Misconceptions of Chlorine Dioxide Gas"
Myth: Chlorine Dioxide Corrodes Stainless Steel
This myth originated due to some commonly used liquid chlorine dioxide products. These liquid solutions are produced by mixing a base and activator which create liquid chlorine dioxide as well as chlorous acid and acidified sodium chlorite. It is these acidic byproducts which can cause corrosion of stainless steels. Chlorine dioxide itself has been shown to be compatible with stainless steel through exposure studies using the pure, gaseous form."
www.clordisys.com/pdfs/articles/myths_of_CDGas_ALN92013.pdf
"It is these acidic byproducts which can cause corrosion of stainless steels." If CDS is not acidic as AK says, then how can it corrode stainless steel?
"The Myths and Misconceptions of Chlorine Dioxide Gas"
Myth: Chlorine Dioxide Corrodes Stainless Steel
This myth originated due to some commonly used liquid chlorine dioxide products. These liquid solutions are produced by mixing a base and activator which create liquid chlorine dioxide as well as chlorous acid and acidified sodium chlorite. It is these acidic byproducts which can cause corrosion of stainless steels. Chlorine dioxide itself has been shown to be compatible with stainless steel through exposure studies using the pure, gaseous form."
www.clordisys.com/pdfs/articles/myths_of_CDGas_ALN92013.pdf
"It is these acidic byproducts which can cause corrosion of stainless steels." If CDS is not acidic as AK says, then how can it corrode stainless steel?
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17 Aug 2021 15:48 #70505
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Good points. However, I thought I saw you say in a post that you have measured the ph of CDS and it was 4 which would be acidic. Is that correct?
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17 Aug 2021 21:44 - 17 Aug 2021 21:47 #70516
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The pH of CDS varies considerably. I have measured from about pH 4 to pH 7.
The reason for low pH may be due to the water used to make CDS and which MMS acid activator is used. And, activating CDS in a fridge seems to result in higher pH.
At the moment, it seems that using Phosphoric acid (H3PO4) results in the highest pH when making CDS. Still testing to see which H3PO4 concentration is best. Looks to be between 12% and 25%. I am leaning toward 25% from recent testing results.
Short video to show CDS at pH 6 . Thanks to Sergio for his testing and video.
The reason for low pH may be due to the water used to make CDS and which MMS acid activator is used. And, activating CDS in a fridge seems to result in higher pH.
At the moment, it seems that using Phosphoric acid (H3PO4) results in the highest pH when making CDS. Still testing to see which H3PO4 concentration is best. Looks to be between 12% and 25%. I am leaning toward 25% from recent testing results.
Short video to show CDS at pH 6 . Thanks to Sergio for his testing and video.
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