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Third week in dealing with Diverticulitis attack. First week 4 days of pain started mms on second day pain went away three days later but still weak. colon was still uncomfortable some. used mms for four more days and was feeling good so stoped mms then five days went buy and pain started again, { shouldn'd have stoped mms should have done a three week coarse } started mms again trying to be concestant but sometimes can't do it every hour. Have had two other times 6 or7 years ago had same attack and took antibiotics and it stopped it. Didn't want to use antibotics again. Of coarse any time you get an attack which is infection it can be much worse than another time. Doctors either give you antibiotics or due surgery and cut out some of your colon, if its abcesed it can eat thru your colon into your system and within hours your dead the DR. says. Didn't go to the Dr. this time. I've been using mms off and on the last couple of years with minor things and reading about it a lot. Been eating not a lot mostly veggies , some boiled eggs and fruit some. and not mixing any carbs and protiens or fruits together. Waiting three hours in between. Also two days ago started juicing organic spinach and carrots a quart a day. Resting mostly. Not in pain anymore but still not strong like normal . Taking two differnt kinds of Probotics for long time also. Micheal & Bruce do you have any Ideas to help along for this attack ? Or any body else with experiense...Thanks Orv

Hi Orv,

I think you should consider escalating yourself to Protocol 2000, with MMS2. Also, for gut issues, MMS1 and MMS2 enemas may be an effective way of getting more help to the gut with less strain on your whole system - you could lower the doses of oral MMS while using enemas.

Definitely keep on with the probiotics. Also using MMS mouthwash should accelerate healing (my "recipe" is 6 activated drops MMS1, after activation add 2 tbsp. (30ml) water and 12 drops DMSO - swish in mouth for at least 1 minute. You're dealing with healing the digestive tract, which is the foundation of health for the whole body, stay with the program that works for you for a good while, at least 1 to 2 months. "My 2 cents"

Thanks for keeping us posted,
Bruce

Thank you Bruce, Were talking about just in the colon not high enemas ? How many a day ? Orv

Hi Orv,

Yes, I would just use "home colonics" - if you had something like a colema board that would make it easier, but lying back in the bathtub would work. Massaging the fluid around the colon works for me.

I would think 2 enemas a day, perhaps one with MMS1 and one with a capsule of MMS2 dissolved in a quart of water. I'm emailing Michael to see if he has any suggestions.

Bruce

Thank you Bruce. I do have a old colema board but need to buy the hoses and other parts again , on the mms 1 how many drops per quart for that ? and for use you would just hold it in laying there for 10 min. and let it out and keep it up like that until the quart is done rite ?

Hi Orv & Bruce,

I apologize for taking so long to get to this. Partly I wanted to think about this situation since there is a lot going on here.

If I was concerned about infection or even having a lot of pain, then I would be going to protocol 2000 and adding the MMS2 also, like Bruce suggested. Both MMSs work differently and you never know which could help the most in your situation.

Orv I do not know if I have ever had diverticulitis. I have suffered from a lot of gut pain, feels like the whole GI tract, for the last 16 years though. And I have especially had a lot of pain in my lower (sigmoid) colon, which then has caused a great deal of low back pain. The sensitivity in the lower colon was so bad that I could not hold the MMS1 enemas at all when I tried them a while ago, even with just straight unactivated MMS1.

However, now that things are starting to calm down in my colon because of getting on the bag protocol (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=3054&Itemid=66) and the brown rice diet (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=3016&Itemid=66#3048) and getting off the gerson protocols, I have been doing the MMS1 enemas for several days. I do think these MMS1 enemas are helping my colon even more than the MMS2 enemas (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=2473&Itemid=66) were.

Jim’s instructions for the MMS1 enemas are to use the same as your oral dose, to add 1/2 cup of water and retain until it is all absorbed and to do them up to 2 times per day. It is too hard on my sensitive colon to use an enema that is this concentrated, so I instead do MMS1 enemas like the gerson method, where I use a pint of water and hold it for 12-15 minutes ideally. Most times I have only been able to hold 3-5 minutes but it still seems to have a very beneficial effect. Jim said this also to go ahead and do them even if you can’t hold for very long. Sometimes I can only do 1-2 minutes.

Jim also says to use water enemas once or twice beforehand just to get cleaned out. If I do that my colon gets so irritated I can’t hold the enema at all, so I don’t do this.

They did a study on the gerson enemas and found that the vast majority of beneficial substances were absorbed within 10 minutes, so the gerson advice is to hold the coffee enemas for 12-15 minutes. They also advice using 1 quart of water and “Lying on your right side, draw both legs up close to the abdomen, relax and breathe deeply.” They don’t advise high enemas and say to insert the enema tube 5-8 inches into the rectum. I did the gerson enemas twice a day for 15 years and ended up using 1 pint of water and eventually lying on my back during the retention.

I do think Bruce’s suggestion to do enemas will be very helpful to you Orv, and like I said earlier the MMS1 enemas seem to be doing a lot of good for my colon. My colon does feel irritated for about an hour after doing one of these enemas, but I still think there is overall healing taking place which I’m excited about. I would suggest starting only with low enemas like Jim and Gerson say at first and see if that does what you need. If your lower colon is super sensitive like mine, then you may want to do the MMS1 enemas gerson style like I do, otherwise go ahead and try what Jim suggests. If you feel that high enemas might help then you just thread the tip further up into the colon. This might help you depending on where your problems lie.

Jim says to do the enemas up to 2 times per day, but if they seem really helpful you could easily do more. On full Gerson therapy they do 4-5 coffee enemas per day.

Orv if you feel the need to flush your GI tract out then you can take castor oil by mouth according to the Gerson protocol. It is like roto-rooter for your guts and cleans you out usually within 5 hrs of taking it. I did that 3 days a week for 15 years because of the relief it gave and kept things flowing when I was on the gerson juicing therapy. Juice therapy makes me get really constipated because of the toxic bile coming out, so I needed the enemas and the castor oil by mouth. If you want to do the castor oil, let me know and I’ll give you the instructions for it.

Let me know if you have any questions Orv,

Michael

I should have pointed out also the gerson people typically use an enema bucket like they sell here usastore.sawilsons.com/products/Gent-%252d-L%252d-Kare-Enema-Bucket-Kit.html Sometimes these are available at a local drug store, otherwise online.



Michael

Micheal thank you for your help. I just did a enema and did how jim said to do it and I did it with six drops mms and activated and was only able to hold it in for maybe three min. I did use four qts of clorine free water first. I don't seem to have a problem like you have had though. Im over the pain part and only have discomfort when I need to empty the colon. I've had a lot of diarrhea so I had to back off the amount of mms1 drops to two or three. A lot of people seem to get good results with their digestive problems if they don't mix protiens and carbs together and wait three hours to eat the other one. also only eat fruits by themselves and wait three hours too. ok to eat veggies and proteins or carbs and veggies. This food combining has been around a long time. so I started it two weeks ago after the first week of the attack. But I need to still chose mostly alcoline foods which I wasen't doing even though I was combining properly. Tomorrow I'll start doing mms2 caps. and keep doing the mms1 enemas. Do you think you have diverticulosis ? Orv

Hi Orv,

Diverticulosis could be one of my problems, sounds like many people have it. Here is a good short video I just watched about it .

I don't think my GI problems are limited just to the colon though, all of my intestines feel irritated. I am starting to think it is candida or fungal forms that are a big part of the problem. I am completely off all sugar or starch in any form (except the brown rice which is not supposed to be completely digestible) and it seems to be helping. I never see any kind of worms or living things come out so I don't think it is large parasites.

I was eating a good diet, mostly fruits and vegetables, a lot of home grown and nothing processed, the gerson juices, but still I think it was feeding candida or some kind of pathogens. I think it is very hard getting things back to the right balance once you get off. I used to think the Gerson diet and therapy could fix anything but I don't any more. I think the MMSs have a lot to offer where it was lacking. It seems I am moving in the right direction right now, so I'm happy about that.

The food combining may work for you, I know some people swear by it.

Michael