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Trouble With CDS strength
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10 Sep 2012 00:52 #22946
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If someone could help me- it would be very appreciated. My first batch of CDS - WAS PERFECT - right on the money. I tried to make a second batch and it was SUPER strong .. so I diluted it. I got it down to the right 3000ppm but it had to be diluted so much it was clear. I was nervous - threw it away and made more today. After only 15 minutes, the strip came out red it was so strong. What could be wrong? I used 1oz mms & 1oz activator - put bublles into 8oz distilled water. the first time it took over an hour to get all bubbled out. The second batch time -it took only 45 minutes for the batch i threw out. This batch I am sending pic of was only 15 minutes. not at all finished - but because it was already testing strong - i stopped it. So do you think if I dilute it down and it becomes clear again - is it safe? Will it deplete in strength more quickly? Has anyone had this issue?? What am I doing wrong? Need ideas - running out of time
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If someone could help me- it would be very appreciated. My first batch of CDS - WAS PERFECT - right on the money. I tried to make a second batch and it was SUPER strong .. so I diluted it. I got it down to the right 3000ppm but it had to be diluted so much it was clear. I was nervous - threw it away and made more today. After only 15 minutes, the strip came out red it was so strong. What could be wrong? I used 1oz mms & 1oz activator - put bublles into 8oz distilled water. the first time it took over an hour to get all bubbled out. The second batch time -it took only 45 minutes for the batch i threw out. This batch I am sending pic of was only 15 minutes. not at all finished - but because it was already testing strong - i stopped it. So do you think if I dilute it down and it becomes clear again - is it safe? Will it deplete in strength more quickly? Has anyone had this issue?? What am I doing wrong? Need ideas - running out of time
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10 Sep 2012 01:12 #22947
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10 Sep 2012 02:10 #22948
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Hi Tamcan,
The red strip was way over 500 ppm. When you test your CDS using the method of production you are using, then you need to dilute the CDS before using the test strips.
The 50:1 dilution you did on the second post shows about 2500-5000ppm CDS because you multiply your reading 50-100 by the 50 that you diluted. When you follow Jim's instructions with the 2oz baby bottle and the 8oz bottle for CDS, then you'll often get 5000-6000ppm, which should be a very bright yellow. When you dilute it down to 3000ppm, if you decide to do that, then it should still be bright yellow, like Mountain Dew. When you take 1ml of that and put it in 4oz of water to test it, then it will be only a light pale yellow, but it should not be clear, and it should test 25-50ppm.
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The red strip was way over 500 ppm. When you test your CDS using the method of production you are using, then you need to dilute the CDS before using the test strips.
The 50:1 dilution you did on the second post shows about 2500-5000ppm CDS because you multiply your reading 50-100 by the 50 that you diluted. When you follow Jim's instructions with the 2oz baby bottle and the 8oz bottle for CDS, then you'll often get 5000-6000ppm, which should be a very bright yellow. When you dilute it down to 3000ppm, if you decide to do that, then it should still be bright yellow, like Mountain Dew. When you take 1ml of that and put it in 4oz of water to test it, then it will be only a light pale yellow, but it should not be clear, and it should test 25-50ppm.
Michael
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10 Sep 2012 03:40 - 10 Sep 2012 12:39 #22953
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Thank You - I forgot about adding the 4oz before testing like i did the first time. one more question... when it is at 3000ppm - 1ml iis the same as 3drop dose of mms right?
And at the point it is 3000ppm - does it still needed to be mixed 10:1 before taking it to prevent it from burning the throat? (ok, that was actually two questions)
And at the point it is 3000ppm - does it still needed to be mixed 10:1 before taking it to prevent it from burning the throat? (ok, that was actually two questions)
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10 Sep 2012 14:12 #22969
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Nope, tamcam - once it's at 3000ppm/L, you just need to add 1mL of it mixture to 4 oz (or so) of water. When you make CDS, you activate the MMS with CA and pull off the gas (chlorine dioxide) and instill it in water in another container - so it's already been activated.
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10 Sep 2012 15:11 #22973
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So it is safe to take 3000ppm CDS and put it in a syrings and straight down the throat of a canine or just drink straight for a person? - no extra water needed to prevent burning of the throat?
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10 Sep 2012 15:23 #22974
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Wait - I see what you are saying - for me I put the CDS straight into the 4oz water & drink. But you need to add it to the 4oz water - that's what I was trying to determine. We were winning on a canind tumor engulfing the intestines, but lately his belly is getting bigger instead of smaller - he has lost his vigor again - and eating is not as exciting as it was just a week ago - was wanting to increase the strength - but I need to do that by increasing volume size, not giving less water with it. When you are having to syringe it down the throat - it is hard to just increase the ml. He sits still for about 4cc(ml) but if more than that he gets jumpy and starts turning his head. I have no problem myself - but this little doggies 80yr old dad is trying to do it states away from me.. so I was trying to figure out an easier way to help him increase the doses. I am pushing for more frequesnt doses now - he had started giving him doses every other hour, then last I talked to him he was giving bigger doese in food 3 times a day. It was working - the tummy went down and the doggy was playing again - but now it is going the other way - thanks for letting me bounce ideas off you guys - you are alway so helpful!! Thanks
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10 Sep 2012 16:41 #22977
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You can reduce the amount of dilution to whatever is bearable. Undiluted 3000ppm will probably burn the throat but you don't need a full 4oz of water either.
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10 Sep 2012 16:53 #22978
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THANKS- I test it on me so I can determine what the doggies can handle - I will see how far down I can reduce without irritation - thanks SO MUCH!
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10 Sep 2012 17:57 #22981
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You could also try straight MMS not activated. Start with one drop and slowly work up to tolerance. Drop back one drop if there is vomiting and/or diarrhea. Doggy tummies are very acidic and the MMS may well activate in there which should be a good thing.
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