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CDS's concentration calculation
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17 Jul 2012 09:48 #19997
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Hi all
CDS's concentration calculation.
3NaClO2 + C6H8O7 = Na3C6H5O7 + 3ClO2 + 3H
link www.webqc.org/balance.php?reaction=NaClO2%2BC6H8O7%3DNa3C6H5O7%2BClO2{-}%2BH{%2B }
3(sodium chlorite) + citric acid = sodium citrate + 3(chlorine dioxide) + 3hydrogen
3:1 = 1:3:3 (molar mass ratio)
3*90.44 + 192.12 = 258.07 + 3*67.45 + 3*1.01 (molecular weight)
calculation www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/tools/magnus/MolWeight.html
www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/molform/?C6H8O7
271.32 + 192.12 = 258.07 + 202.35 + 3.03 (molar mass ratio)
2.7mg +1.92mg = 2.58mg + 2.02mg + 0.03mg
2.7mg sodium chlorite and 1.9mg citric acid bring 2mg chlorine dioxide.
Dissolving it into 1litter water, chlorine dioxide's concentration will be 2ppm.
If it is 2.7g which is 2.7cc MMS1 and 1.9cc citric acid and 1 litter water, the concentration will be 2000ppm.
If you want to get 8000ppm concentration, you should use 10.8cc (4*2.7) MMS1 and 7.6cc (4*1.9) citric acid to create chlorine dioxide.
You can't get the concentration more than 8000ppm solution, since the solubility of the chlorine dioxide is 0.8g/100ml which is 8000ppm.
CDS's concentration calculation.
3NaClO2 + C6H8O7 = Na3C6H5O7 + 3ClO2 + 3H
link www.webqc.org/balance.php?reaction=NaClO2%2BC6H8O7%3DNa3C6H5O7%2BClO2{-}%2BH{%2B }
3(sodium chlorite) + citric acid = sodium citrate + 3(chlorine dioxide) + 3hydrogen
3:1 = 1:3:3 (molar mass ratio)
3*90.44 + 192.12 = 258.07 + 3*67.45 + 3*1.01 (molecular weight)
calculation www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/tools/magnus/MolWeight.html
www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/molform/?C6H8O7
271.32 + 192.12 = 258.07 + 202.35 + 3.03 (molar mass ratio)
2.7mg +1.92mg = 2.58mg + 2.02mg + 0.03mg
2.7mg sodium chlorite and 1.9mg citric acid bring 2mg chlorine dioxide.
Dissolving it into 1litter water, chlorine dioxide's concentration will be 2ppm.
If it is 2.7g which is 2.7cc MMS1 and 1.9cc citric acid and 1 litter water, the concentration will be 2000ppm.
If you want to get 8000ppm concentration, you should use 10.8cc (4*2.7) MMS1 and 7.6cc (4*1.9) citric acid to create chlorine dioxide.
You can't get the concentration more than 8000ppm solution, since the solubility of the chlorine dioxide is 0.8g/100ml which is 8000ppm.
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17 Jul 2012 14:53 - 17 Jul 2012 14:53 #20011
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Well, I've gotten higher concentrations than that, verified by testing, not by math, Satoshi.
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18 Jul 2012 01:00 - 18 Jul 2012 12:18 #20057
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Hi Pam
Interesting!
Over saturation.
I'm wondering what that is.
The saturation depends on temperature and pressure.
So the environment must be different.
I guess the figures are around 8000ppm, not so far up different.
I'm wondering If the chlorine dioxide gas dissolving into water congeals to solid particles so that the concentration will get higher than 8000ppm.
I notice that when refrigerating pet-bottle with CDS, the pressure goes down inside the bottle.
It is because the chlorine dioxide gas around the water inside bottle fits into the water, I guess.
So the concentration will get bit higher.
Anyone who knows the answer, please give it to me.
see you
Interesting!
Over saturation.
I'm wondering what that is.
The saturation depends on temperature and pressure.
So the environment must be different.
I guess the figures are around 8000ppm, not so far up different.
I'm wondering If the chlorine dioxide gas dissolving into water congeals to solid particles so that the concentration will get higher than 8000ppm.
I notice that when refrigerating pet-bottle with CDS, the pressure goes down inside the bottle.
It is because the chlorine dioxide gas around the water inside bottle fits into the water, I guess.
So the concentration will get bit higher.
Anyone who knows the answer, please give it to me.
see you
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18 Jul 2012 01:35 #20059
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I stopped at 12,500 in my bottle. I think Jim Humble has gone a lot higher, Satoshi. Maybe twice that. There is some loss to the atmosphere, but surprisingly enough, you can get those higher doses.
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18 Jul 2012 21:13 - 18 Jul 2012 21:14 #20099
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** can i use a plastic jar and lid? ***
1. Put 4 0unces of water in a glass jar with a plastic lid.
2. Put 60 drops of sodium chlorite solution in a shot glass (a small one ounce glass)
3. Put 60 drops of citric acid solution in the same shot glass.
4. Put the shot glass containing the now activated MMS (should be turning brown and smelling like chlorine) inside the jar and close the lid.
5. Cover the jar with a cloth and leave it for 8 hours. After 8 hours put the jar in the refrigerator. After 4 hours or more in the refrigerator remove the shot glass and quickly put the lid back on the jar.
Makes a 1500 ppm solution. Use 2 cc's per dose. So for protocol 1000 use 2 cc's CDS in 4 ounces water 8 times a day.
**** so I use my syring take it up to 2 cc's and add it to 4oz of water ad do this 8 x's a day for how long? 3 weeks?**** providing i have the dosage right...i want to start this tomorrow if possible...
1. Put 4 0unces of water in a glass jar with a plastic lid.
2. Put 60 drops of sodium chlorite solution in a shot glass (a small one ounce glass)
3. Put 60 drops of citric acid solution in the same shot glass.
4. Put the shot glass containing the now activated MMS (should be turning brown and smelling like chlorine) inside the jar and close the lid.
5. Cover the jar with a cloth and leave it for 8 hours. After 8 hours put the jar in the refrigerator. After 4 hours or more in the refrigerator remove the shot glass and quickly put the lid back on the jar.
Makes a 1500 ppm solution. Use 2 cc's per dose. So for protocol 1000 use 2 cc's CDS in 4 ounces water 8 times a day.
**** so I use my syring take it up to 2 cc's and add it to 4oz of water ad do this 8 x's a day for how long? 3 weeks?**** providing i have the dosage right...i want to start this tomorrow if possible...
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Replied by Megg on topic Re: CDS's concentration calculation
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP? I want to get started on this tomorrow. Are the drops right and the ppm right? this is equal to 3 drops of MMS correct? thanks to whoever will answer 
1. Put 4 0unces of water in a glass jar with a plastic lid.
2. Put 60 drops of sodium chlorite solution in a shot glass (a small one ounce glass)
3. Put 60 drops of citric acid solution in the same shot glass.
4. Put the shot glass containing the now activated MMS (should be turning brown and smelling like chlorine) inside the jar and close the lid.
5. Cover the jar with a cloth and leave it for 8 hours. After 8 hours put the jar in the refrigerator. After 4 hours or more in the refrigerator remove the shot glass and quickly put the lid back on the jar.
Makes a 1500 ppm solution. Use 2 cc's per dose. So for protocol 1000 use 2 cc's CDS in 4 ounces water 8 times a day.
1. Put 4 0unces of water in a glass jar with a plastic lid.
2. Put 60 drops of sodium chlorite solution in a shot glass (a small one ounce glass)
3. Put 60 drops of citric acid solution in the same shot glass.
4. Put the shot glass containing the now activated MMS (should be turning brown and smelling like chlorine) inside the jar and close the lid.
5. Cover the jar with a cloth and leave it for 8 hours. After 8 hours put the jar in the refrigerator. After 4 hours or more in the refrigerator remove the shot glass and quickly put the lid back on the jar.
Makes a 1500 ppm solution. Use 2 cc's per dose. So for protocol 1000 use 2 cc's CDS in 4 ounces water 8 times a day.
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18 Jul 2012 23:49 #20103
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Yes, to your questions - the only one that may not be a yes is the 3weeks. It may take longer than that.
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Replied by Megg on topic Re: CDS's concentration calculation
Pam..that 1500 ppm is a way smaller dose than what every 1 is taking. I seen it 3000 ppm. am I assuming this is correct what i am about to mix? AND ONE more questio? CAN I USE A PLASTIC JAR ???
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19 Jul 2012 00:04 #20107
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Glass would be better, but use plastic if that is all you have.
1500 is smaller than what most people are taking, BUT, this procedure makes a 1500 ppm solution, so you just adjust the amount you take.
At 1500, you take 2mL. At 3000, you take 1mL, At 6000, you take .5mL
1500 is smaller than what most people are taking, BUT, this procedure makes a 1500 ppm solution, so you just adjust the amount you take.
At 1500, you take 2mL. At 3000, you take 1mL, At 6000, you take .5mL
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19 Jul 2012 04:32 - 19 Jul 2012 04:34 #20112
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Megg you should use a wide mouth GLASS jar and the lid should be plastic ( metal will corrode.) My jar is 3.5 inches diameter and 3.5 inches tall and is a honey jar. Instead of counting 60 drops use 3 cc/ml each chlorite and citric solutions.
Yes, 2 cc/ml of this finished CDS 1500ppm solution will equal 3 drops MMS1
Yes, 2 cc/ml of this finished CDS 1500ppm solution will equal 3 drops MMS1
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