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05 Mar 2012 18:17 #13773
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Hi. I'm looking for suggestions or assistance with something that appears like rheumatoid arthritis.
This is something that came upon me suddenly about 3 months ago. At first it just seemed like my feet were tired and stressed. I had pain in my feet. After I used a cane to minimize the stress with my feet, my hands felt stressed. And it spread to my hands and wrists. All this took about 48 hours to develope.
I started using mms right away and got a cleansing reaction. So I stopped for awhile.
I also had extreme weakness, fatigue and brain fog for the first 2-4 weeks. My hands and feel became very swollen and looked pretty wierd. My hands and feet became very sensitive to the feeling of being exposed to the air. It was painful. So I had to wear glove and socks during that time especially to sleep. I don't know how much of that was being sick and how much was possibly a cleansing reaction.
I have been taking 24 to 36 drops of mms per day for about 9 weeks now. I quit feeling sick and weak after 4 or 5 weeks. But I still have symptoms that look like rheumatoid arthritis in my hands and feet.
I haven't had too much pain. When I start feeling discomfort, I realize that I am behind schedule with my mms. The mms always seems to dissapate the pain. But walking is difficult. Opening doors, etc. is difficult.
So it's like I'm managing the pain with mms, but I still have the other symptoms.
I have tried soaking my hands and feet in a bucket of warm water with 10 drops of mms in it. That actually brings up more pain. It feels ok at the time. But the pain gets intense a couple hours after that.
I have used mms with dmso daily on my hands. I can only do it one time per day, because my skin starts to break down. But that definitely helps.
I have started using molecula silver. I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly. But I think that it is helpful.
Also I have been chewing up 3 or 4 1000 mg msm tablets and swallowing that down with a glass of water mixed with 1/2 tsp of vitamin C crystals every day. For some reason that helps.
Does anyone have experience with this kind of thing? Any suggestions?
(Thanks in advance.)
This is something that came upon me suddenly about 3 months ago. At first it just seemed like my feet were tired and stressed. I had pain in my feet. After I used a cane to minimize the stress with my feet, my hands felt stressed. And it spread to my hands and wrists. All this took about 48 hours to develope.
I started using mms right away and got a cleansing reaction. So I stopped for awhile.
I also had extreme weakness, fatigue and brain fog for the first 2-4 weeks. My hands and feel became very swollen and looked pretty wierd. My hands and feet became very sensitive to the feeling of being exposed to the air. It was painful. So I had to wear glove and socks during that time especially to sleep. I don't know how much of that was being sick and how much was possibly a cleansing reaction.
I have been taking 24 to 36 drops of mms per day for about 9 weeks now. I quit feeling sick and weak after 4 or 5 weeks. But I still have symptoms that look like rheumatoid arthritis in my hands and feet.
I haven't had too much pain. When I start feeling discomfort, I realize that I am behind schedule with my mms. The mms always seems to dissapate the pain. But walking is difficult. Opening doors, etc. is difficult.
So it's like I'm managing the pain with mms, but I still have the other symptoms.
I have tried soaking my hands and feet in a bucket of warm water with 10 drops of mms in it. That actually brings up more pain. It feels ok at the time. But the pain gets intense a couple hours after that.
I have used mms with dmso daily on my hands. I can only do it one time per day, because my skin starts to break down. But that definitely helps.
I have started using molecula silver. I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly. But I think that it is helpful.
Also I have been chewing up 3 or 4 1000 mg msm tablets and swallowing that down with a glass of water mixed with 1/2 tsp of vitamin C crystals every day. For some reason that helps.
Does anyone have experience with this kind of thing? Any suggestions?
(Thanks in advance.)
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05 Mar 2012 18:48 #13775
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Hi
Have you been to a doctor. There could be other things that could cause that problem. Msg the food additives can cause that or lack of Vit B12 or some other vitamin.
Kahlon
Have you been to a doctor. There could be other things that could cause that problem. Msg the food additives can cause that or lack of Vit B12 or some other vitamin.
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05 Mar 2012 20:09 #13777
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I too was inflicted by rheumatoid arthritis and as this disease is an infection due to imbalance of our whole body it affects absolutely everything. All organs eyes and brain, all ligaments tendons and bones. I was completely crippled by it. Tried every diet and supplement under the sun. Nothing made a difference.
The two things that turned it around for me are Ren Xue Zhineng Qigong ( www.yuantzecentre.com ) and MMS
Apart from some loss of mobility in hands and feet, due to bonedeformities I am back to good health and fit and able.
Best wishes in finding your way. Feel free to ask further questions.
marianne
The two things that turned it around for me are Ren Xue Zhineng Qigong ( www.yuantzecentre.com ) and MMS
Apart from some loss of mobility in hands and feet, due to bonedeformities I am back to good health and fit and able.
Best wishes in finding your way. Feel free to ask further questions.
marianne
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05 Mar 2012 20:13 #13778
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Great news mariannhvw
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07 Mar 2012 03:54 #13891
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Marrianne,
Thank you so much for that info. I really don't know much at all about this.
Also congratulations on your brave journey.
When you say that it affects tendons, ligaments, bones, I have seen that. How does it affect one's eyes?
I have a friend who teaches Qigong, I can begin to learn it from him.
Thanks again,
Lin
Thank you so much for that info. I really don't know much at all about this.
Also congratulations on your brave journey.
When you say that it affects tendons, ligaments, bones, I have seen that. How does it affect one's eyes?
I have a friend who teaches Qigong, I can begin to learn it from him.
Thanks again,
Lin
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08 Mar 2012 23:35 #13999
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Hi Lin,
A common symptom of RA is dry eyes, connected with liver dysfunction and the emotion of anger. I treated mine together through the renxue zhineng qigong. There are 45.000 types of qigong so I only know the type I use and teach. Just putting drops in regu;arly doesn't cure, it may help people to cope with it, but mine is actually gone and I have cured my liver in the process. You can see on the website I suggested, if there is someone in your area.
As far as the MMS is concerned I am sure it also has helped with the turning back of the illness. I already knew from my research that some people have benefitted from longterm use of antibiotics to help with the infection but I didn't choose to go that way. Candida imbalance is also a defenite factor in RA and antibiotics are one of the factors in creating this candida imbalance. So when I found out about MMS in 2008 I knew that that was exactly what I needed. I started on tthe old protocols and oohhh I have been so sick, but as Jim says, "it hasn't killed anyone".
Basically I now stick to protocol 1000 as much as I can. I suggest you do the same, just quietly getting rid of what your body has build up for so many years. RA, like many or even most illnesses are related to our emtions, stress, Again as Jim puts it "stress cereates pathogens". Sometimes I go on maintenance for a while and then have another burst of 1000.
I am experimenting with the DMSO but so far have not noticed a difference.
Never use fruitjuice! and lots of cholesterol. I use lard, cream, butter. No raw veges but all well cooked so easy to digest. I know it all goes against the grain of what commerce makes us believe at the moment.
I also refrain from washing my body daily, I try to stick with once a week. Our skin is our biggest organ, it makes minerals in big quantities that then get reabsorbed. Of course also our vit. D is a skin product. It takes 20 hours to be absorbed into the body. I expect the other substances to do the same
We often laugh about the good old days when we would wash once a week in tthe zinc tub. I now no longer laugh at that. My mother has set the example for me, never having washed more than once a week. She has lived until the good age of 93 without ever having been ill. Now we scrub and wash and get sicker and sicker.
Anyway, I must sttop now as I can go on and on about all the things my illness have taught me.
Wishing you good qi for recovery to wellness
marianne
A common symptom of RA is dry eyes, connected with liver dysfunction and the emotion of anger. I treated mine together through the renxue zhineng qigong. There are 45.000 types of qigong so I only know the type I use and teach. Just putting drops in regu;arly doesn't cure, it may help people to cope with it, but mine is actually gone and I have cured my liver in the process. You can see on the website I suggested, if there is someone in your area.
As far as the MMS is concerned I am sure it also has helped with the turning back of the illness. I already knew from my research that some people have benefitted from longterm use of antibiotics to help with the infection but I didn't choose to go that way. Candida imbalance is also a defenite factor in RA and antibiotics are one of the factors in creating this candida imbalance. So when I found out about MMS in 2008 I knew that that was exactly what I needed. I started on tthe old protocols and oohhh I have been so sick, but as Jim says, "it hasn't killed anyone".
Basically I now stick to protocol 1000 as much as I can. I suggest you do the same, just quietly getting rid of what your body has build up for so many years. RA, like many or even most illnesses are related to our emtions, stress, Again as Jim puts it "stress cereates pathogens". Sometimes I go on maintenance for a while and then have another burst of 1000.
I am experimenting with the DMSO but so far have not noticed a difference.
Never use fruitjuice! and lots of cholesterol. I use lard, cream, butter. No raw veges but all well cooked so easy to digest. I know it all goes against the grain of what commerce makes us believe at the moment.
I also refrain from washing my body daily, I try to stick with once a week. Our skin is our biggest organ, it makes minerals in big quantities that then get reabsorbed. Of course also our vit. D is a skin product. It takes 20 hours to be absorbed into the body. I expect the other substances to do the same
We often laugh about the good old days when we would wash once a week in tthe zinc tub. I now no longer laugh at that. My mother has set the example for me, never having washed more than once a week. She has lived until the good age of 93 without ever having been ill. Now we scrub and wash and get sicker and sicker.
Anyway, I must sttop now as I can go on and on about all the things my illness have taught me.
Wishing you good qi for recovery to wellness
marianne
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09 Mar 2012 16:28 #14035
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HI
Theres a lady who I supply with MMS specifically for her arthritis. While she has had it for several years, and was actually at a point where she was going to be operated on (i never knew that was possible) anyway, long story short, she swears by it, has not been using painkillers and is well on her way to recovery. It seems to me that you are looking for quick solution to a problem that took root gradually. Give it time and there will be a situation where you dont require MMS for your arthritis. She too still experiences pain, but its nothing compared to what she's been through; excruciating pain, inability to walk, taking pain killers on a daily basis. And yes, MMS is taking out a lot of toxins that you may not be aware of in the first place. I know its nt easy btu consider CDS solution, ,It will make things easier for you.
Theres a lady who I supply with MMS specifically for her arthritis. While she has had it for several years, and was actually at a point where she was going to be operated on (i never knew that was possible) anyway, long story short, she swears by it, has not been using painkillers and is well on her way to recovery. It seems to me that you are looking for quick solution to a problem that took root gradually. Give it time and there will be a situation where you dont require MMS for your arthritis. She too still experiences pain, but its nothing compared to what she's been through; excruciating pain, inability to walk, taking pain killers on a daily basis. And yes, MMS is taking out a lot of toxins that you may not be aware of in the first place. I know its nt easy btu consider CDS solution, ,It will make things easier for you.
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09 Mar 2012 16:35 #14036
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Lin,
Have you read the book, 'DMSO: Nature's Healer' ?? by Dr. Morton Walker ...
It states in there that it has "cured" your kind of arthritis....
(see attached file)
Good luck,'
Clint
Have you read the book, 'DMSO: Nature's Healer' ?? by Dr. Morton Walker ...
It states in there that it has "cured" your kind of arthritis....
(see attached file)
Good luck,'
Clint
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21 Mar 2012 17:53 #14791
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LOL! You too? This was me until I was nearly 12, and we moved to a house with a bath.
What luxury. Friday night baths in the zinc bath in front of the fire in the living room was our weekly treat
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mariannhvw wrote: We often laugh about the good old days when we would wash once a week in tthe zinc tub.
LOL! You too? This was me until I was nearly 12, and we moved to a house with a bath.
What luxury. Friday night baths in the zinc bath in front of the fire in the living room was our weekly treat
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[Hi This is Lin again. I wanted to let it be known that I ultimately had great success with
mms. I had to combine it with a special diet.
I had an opportunity to see a doctor a couple months into this experience. He did blood
work that diagnosed rheumatoid arthritis.
It was a very extreme experience at first. It came on me quite suddenly. There was a lot
of pain. I was very weak. I could barely stand up or walk. And I was really scared.
After a couple months with mms most of that was minimized. I could get around, drive, etc.
That's when I saw a doctor.
My biggest blessing was speaking with Geoff Norrena who answers questions on the phone about how to use the products sold at A2ZHealthProducts.com. He told me what kind of diet I should be doing. And he talked me through the whole thing. God bless him forever and ever.
Geoff explained that there was probably a fungus or yeast or something in my intestines
that was contributing to this. And certain foods feed that fungus and cause it to
multiply. The mms was effectively keeping fungus or whatever down.
Here is a great video that I found that helps me to understand how this works:
www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_on_how_bacteria_communicate.html
It took about six months to really get better. In addition to mms I took a lot of vitamins
and good minerals and Barleans cod liver oil for months.
Before this happened, I ate primarily rice and beans, dairy, peanut butter, coffee and
rarely anything with sugar. I ended up eliminating all dairy except butter, sugar, all
grains, beans, most fruit, and peanut butter. I probably could have eaten rice, but
didn't.
I was doing 6 drops of mms, 4 times a day. I had it premixed in a bottle with water.
Now I'm taking 6 drops a day, and I'm sticking with the diet for the most part. I like it.
I sincerely hope that my experience can be helpful to someone suffering with rheumatoid
arthritis.
There is no really no need to take pain pills or drugs for pain or flexibility with RA.
Mms eliminates the pain.
As I recall the pain was greatly diminished immediately. And then it took a couple
weeks to diminish even more. Now I only have a little stiffness the next day when I eat
certain foods.
I watched my hands go from looking very swollen and strange to normal in just weeks.
My mobility returned very slowly. At first I could barely flip a light switch or open a
door turning the handle with both hands. That much came back in days.
It took me about a year to be able to kneel confidently and with ease.
It took 2 years to be able to fasten my bra behind my back. Sounds funny, but that was a
significant victory.
Now, when I'm sitting on the couch and I just stand up easily without pain or effort, I
think about what an amazing grace it is to be able to do that.
I am very grateful to God and everyone who has made this possible for me, including Jim
Humble and the good people, who keep this forum going.
Thank you so much.
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mms. I had to combine it with a special diet.
I had an opportunity to see a doctor a couple months into this experience. He did blood
work that diagnosed rheumatoid arthritis.
It was a very extreme experience at first. It came on me quite suddenly. There was a lot
of pain. I was very weak. I could barely stand up or walk. And I was really scared.
After a couple months with mms most of that was minimized. I could get around, drive, etc.
That's when I saw a doctor.
My biggest blessing was speaking with Geoff Norrena who answers questions on the phone about how to use the products sold at A2ZHealthProducts.com. He told me what kind of diet I should be doing. And he talked me through the whole thing. God bless him forever and ever.
Geoff explained that there was probably a fungus or yeast or something in my intestines
that was contributing to this. And certain foods feed that fungus and cause it to
multiply. The mms was effectively keeping fungus or whatever down.
Here is a great video that I found that helps me to understand how this works:
www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_on_how_bacteria_communicate.html
It took about six months to really get better. In addition to mms I took a lot of vitamins
and good minerals and Barleans cod liver oil for months.
Before this happened, I ate primarily rice and beans, dairy, peanut butter, coffee and
rarely anything with sugar. I ended up eliminating all dairy except butter, sugar, all
grains, beans, most fruit, and peanut butter. I probably could have eaten rice, but
didn't.
I was doing 6 drops of mms, 4 times a day. I had it premixed in a bottle with water.
Now I'm taking 6 drops a day, and I'm sticking with the diet for the most part. I like it.
I sincerely hope that my experience can be helpful to someone suffering with rheumatoid
arthritis.
There is no really no need to take pain pills or drugs for pain or flexibility with RA.
Mms eliminates the pain.
As I recall the pain was greatly diminished immediately. And then it took a couple
weeks to diminish even more. Now I only have a little stiffness the next day when I eat
certain foods.
I watched my hands go from looking very swollen and strange to normal in just weeks.
My mobility returned very slowly. At first I could barely flip a light switch or open a
door turning the handle with both hands. That much came back in days.
It took me about a year to be able to kneel confidently and with ease.
It took 2 years to be able to fasten my bra behind my back. Sounds funny, but that was a
significant victory.
Now, when I'm sitting on the couch and I just stand up easily without pain or effort, I
think about what an amazing grace it is to be able to do that.
I am very grateful to God and everyone who has made this possible for me, including Jim
Humble and the good people, who keep this forum going.
Thank you so much.
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