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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 08 Oct 2011 18:34 #6135

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Seems like MMS is taking off with many people doing the protocols and even with Jims Book in their hands, with all the great info supplied quite a few of us seem to forget to pay attention to effects of MMS and healing and so I feel I should post Chapter 16 here for members and uses of MMS to refresh themselves regarding overdosing.

Signs That MMS is Working

*** But That You Have Overdosed ***


Activated MMS (chlorine dioxide) kills pathogens on contact. It also
breaks up molecular compounds such as heavy metal compounds in
the body. As soon as you swallow your MMS dose, it starts to work on
clearing the bad stuff out of your system.

Healthy people can generally take MMS without nausea -- it is only
people sick with some kind of disease who will get nauseous when
taking it. However, nausea is a good indication that the MMS drops
are working.

The immune system attacks unhealthy conditions using MMS. There
has never been any evidence of an attack on healthy cells, but if one
supplies the immune system with extra MMS, it appears to attack
unhealthy conditions more vigorously. It’s what the body needs, but a
nauseous reaction sometimes occurs and occasionally someone will
vomit. This simply indicates that the dose was too large.

Signs that MMS is working are:

• Diarrhea
• Stomach ache
• Fatigue
• Vomiting
• Nausea


All these conditions are temporary. They tell you that the body has
more dead pathogens or disintegrating toxins than it can quickly
handle. In other words, it has been overdosed. So reduce your next
MMS dose to allow your body to catch up with you. If these
conditions are too severe to tolerate, you should stop taking MMS
until they’re gone.

Then resume at a lower dose.

It’s a process of learning what your body can handle.


When a person is very sick, start with a half-drop dose or less. Wait a
couple of hours and increase the dose if the first one didn’t make him
nauseous. Back off for a while if he shows signs of feeling sicker.

• A sick person should receive a dose of some strength every
hour during the day for at least 8 hours, but they should be
small doses. See Protocol 1000

If bad nausea persists, take as little as a quarter of a drop an hour. It's
OK to stop until nausea is gone, but a small amount of nausea may
continue for some time. Do not let a tiny bit of nausea stop you. Only
stop if it gets to be irritating.

• Normally, very little nausea or diarrhea is noticed, but it does
happen.

What Causes the Nausea?

Nausea is part of what is called the Herxheimer reaction – also called
“detox illness”. It is caused by dying pathogens dumping poison into
the system. A normal healthy person notices absolutely nothing from
taking a great deal more than 3 drops of MMS an hour.

The more health problems you have, the more likely you will be to notice
nausea, and perhaps also vomiting, diarrhea and/or severe fatigue.
MMS is killing cancer viruses and other pathogens faster than your
elimination system can clear the blood and make the debris exit. So called
"dirty blood" can cause headaches as well as nausea. Any other
diseases being killed that are present in your body will also be
releasing poisons and the body must carry those poisons off.

Everyone differs in the efficiency of their elimination systems, and in
the heavy toxic load they have been carrying that may have caused
the cancer or other diseases. Therefore no one can state that nausea
will occur on day two or day ten. When overloaded with debris in the
blood, you must slow down the doses of both MMS1 and MMS2,
allowing the blood to clear. Gradually this nausea barrier will fade
away.

When we first learned about the effectiveness of citric acid, I
measured the strength of the solution. The chlorine dioxide present
measured much higher than when vinegar, or lime or lemon juices
were used, but people seemed to handle it better. Thus, I decided to
determine what a reasonably healthy body could tolerate by taking it
myself. I started low and built up to 30 drops twice a day. I never felt
any nausea or other negative reactions. Therefore, we know (based on
the reports of hundreds of people other than myself) that as long as
there is nothing to be killed, destroyed, or neutralized, one can expect
no reaction from an MMS dose.

Sometimes, even sick people do not experience nausea when taking
MMS; however, do not be surprised if someone does get sick, become
nauseous, develop diarrhea, or even vomit after taking a few drops of
MMS. To help minimize these reactions, try to take (or give) it a half
to one hour after a small meal. MMS allows the immune system to
correct various conditions in the body, thereby creating substances
that the body must expel. This is normal. However, if you always start
with 1 or 2 drops it is unlikely that you will make anyone nauseous.

Dealing With the Nausea


After the MMS doses have been reduced or temporarily stopped,
there are some ways in which you can help the nausea dissipate:

Drink some cold water

• Drink some juice
• Eat a bite or two of something
• Add a rounded teaspoon of baking soda to a glass of water and
drink it
• Take some Alka-Seltzer

Apples Are Effective


Apples are an important anti-nausea tool. They often stop the nausea
and will be the best way to stop nausea for many people. Eat one
apple about 15 minutes before taking MMS. Do that for three or four
or five hourly doses and just continue with the protocol.

You can grind the apple into apple sauce with a food grinder of one
kind or another, but always use fresh apples as they absorb the
poisons more efficiently than day-old apple sauce. It should be eaten
immediately after grinding.

In general, a sick person will begin to feel better within 24 hours. Just
don’t give up on MMS. Reduce the number of drops per dose until the
person is not experiencing nausea. You may have to reduce down to a
quarter of a drop an hour. Then start increasing the drops with each
dose as long as the person does not become nauseous.

If you have to go to a quarter or half drop for a long time to prevent
nausea, that is OK, but you may then need to extend your protocol an
extra week or so.

Diarrhea and Vomiting

If you take MMS in any quantity, you may get diarrhea. Not everyone
gets it, but some people need to be cleaned out. If that is true in your
case, you will probably not be able to avoid diarrhea. It seems that the
body knows what is needed when MMS is taken. As the immune
system becomes more active, more things begin to take place in the
body. There are things that your body does not want your digestive
system to process, so it will cause vomiting It hasn’t hurt a single
person so far, and everyone has felt better after vomiting.

In every case, when diarrhea hits or vomiting takes place, assume that it is
needed and that it is a good indication that healing is taking place.
In rare cases, the body’s bowel system is not working and a person
may vomit to eliminate poisons and waste from their system.

A person may even develop skin rashes as the poisons attempt to get
out through the skin. In such cases, use a laxative. The best one that I
know is the Senna herb. Sennosides are extracted from the Senna
herb and they exercise the bowel muscles, expelling more waste than
any other method. Sennosides are sold by Walmart and by health
food stores and pharmacies and used by millions of people.

Severe Fatigue

When the body is very busy dealing with dead pathogens and trying
to eliminate all the toxins and debris, it can get tired. If the MMS
doses have been a little too high, the fatigue can be severe, such that a
person cannot stay awake. At work, a person might fall asleep with
their head on the desk. At home, a good nap might be inevitable. The
condition is not painful or uncomfortable. It only lasts for a couple of
hours, and during that time you may feel like you simply do not want
to move. This extra sleep is beneficial and helps the body clear itself
of disease.

However, if the fatigue is more severe than is acceptable or practical,
lower MMS doses will help. As with nausea, just use smaller doses
until the body can catch up with elimination and does not get so tired.

Then gradually increase the dosage again, staying just under the
“nausea barrier”, according to the particular protocol you are using.

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From my experience fatigue may even hit you weeks or months after finishing your protocol and this should not scare you, rest is good, stay home and do nothing, eat and sleep and heal....

Thanks.....

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Re: Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 09 Oct 2011 06:40 #6148

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In have been experience some bad cramp, mainly at night when I go to bed in the legs, wonder if this could be part of an after effect of using MMS.

I take magnesium and calcium and the cramps disappear but also reappear weeks later, perhaps it has to do with me drinking B12- Ocean Plasma, perhaps to much salt from the Ocean Plasma, not quite sure.

Another MMS user I am in touch with privately and had concerns about overdosing when I pointed out my cramp situation commented as follows...

""""""Yea you are right i noticed some changes in my body that are related to calcium levels. First thing that happened my nails became weak, then i had some surface changes on my front teeth.

I went to see a dentist she could not tell me why the teeth changed so much in just few months. She said it looks like i was exposed to a chemical. And then my nails got even more weak very very bad weak condition. I take supplement and other nourishment for nails inside and outside use but no improvement yet.

That worries me too and i wonder whether that was caused by mms.

Is there a way to find this out?

Jim doesnt speak about any side effects on the contrary he claims there is no apart from nausea and etc."""""

Any one with any ideas and suggestions, opinions please share...

Thanks,

David

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 28 Nov 2017 04:23 #56808

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Hello my name.is billy I have been living with Hiv for 13 years and i have been.taking my ARV every day I have not felt normal like they say you will because now my eyes are getting worse I can not get rid if the sinus infection that I have had now for 9 month .can a.person take mms and take there ARV too or do they have to stop.ARV and do I have to do a.plant based diet . to alkaline my body .

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 28 Nov 2017 06:16 #56809

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Billy, if you search this forum, you will find about 1100 results for "HIV."

Regarding taking meds while taking MMS, the following is from Jim Humble's latest book:

4. Pharmaceuticals: Up until this point in time, we have not noticed any reactions with MMS and medical drugs, although we cannot guarantee this will always be the case. The decision to take or not to take pharmaceutical drugs is a personal one. Medications affect each person’s body in different ways. We cannot say across the board in every case that taking prescription drugs will inhibit health recovery with MMS. However, we have seen a trend that continuing to take pharmaceuticals while doing the MMS protocols will often slow health recovery, or prevent it all together. If one has made a decision to not take pharmaceuticals, occasionally they may need to continue with a pharmaceutical drug (while on the MMS protocol) for several days or a week or more (depending upon the situation and the kind and amount of medications you must wean off of). This is to prevent bad reactions from occurring in the first several days due to “drug shock” when the medications are first stopped. Usually it is best to wind down slowly by reducing the drug in steps. The right qualified alternative health professional can help you safely wean yourself off of the medications.


You might want to reconsider trying to alkalize your body, because if you were successful, you would be dead! Please read this article to see why. To download a PDF of the article, click here.

Jim Humble also wrote an article on vegetarianism here.

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 02 Mar 2019 20:08 #59924

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Hello and thank you for the information. I fail to find “acid reflux” as one of the side effects of an MMS overdose. I’d love some help. I moved up to 3 drops per hour too fast and did it for 8 hours. After that, I feel like my stomach is irritated and the acid reflux has not stopped in 2 days. I have stopped taking MMS until I feel better. I’m curious to know if this is a normal side effect and if there’s anything I could do to get better faster. Thank you!

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 03 Mar 2019 04:51 #59928

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Did you follow the Starting Procedure before beginning Protocol 1000 and also heed the Three Golden Rules?

Keep in mind that reaching 3 drop MMS1 doses is not a goal; it is the Maximum one should take when following P1000. You may not need 3 drop MMS1 doses to resolve whatever health problem you have.

Are you using 50% citric acid or 4% HCL MMS activator?

This PDF file might be of interest to you.

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 03 Mar 2019 21:22 #59944

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Hello! Thank you for your response. I stupidly did not follow the starting procedure. I followed some random MMS1 plus instructions I found on the web. (“PROTOCOL 1000 is basically taking 3 drops of activated MMS each hour, for 8 hours a day, for 3 weeks. However many people cannot start taking that many drops and should start with only 2 or even 1 drop and hour. This is determined by how sick they are to begin with. If one is feeling very sick then start with 1 drop an hour or even 1/2 drop and hour, but then begin taking more if you feel that you
can. The rule is, if you feel that the drops are making you feel worse, take less and if they are not making you feel worse then take a little bit more the next hour, but never more than 3 drops an hour.)
I moved up to 3 activated drops on day 6 after having taken 2 drops per hour for 8 hours on day 3, 4, 5 and being completely fine and feeling that my prostatits symptoms had completely gone away.
After stopping MMS on day 6, I had some diarrhea and really bad acid reflux for 48 hours. Managed to reduce the reflux with baking soda and today, 60 hours later, my stomach is almost back to normal.
The literature online seems to be too confusing. Seems like everyone recommends a different way to following the same protocol.
I am not aware of the 3 golden rules, and to be honest, I was left more confused after reading the pdf. you attached.
So it says that only 10% of the MMS is activated in the 30 seconds and the other 90% in the stomach? So am I supposed to wait longer than 30 seconds?
Please, if you could, how would you recommend I get back to the protocol?
(I’m taking MMS+ 4% HCL+ DMSO)
Thank you in advance.

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 04 Mar 2019 04:21 #59946

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Donner182000, it is confusing to try to find proper and up-to-date MMS protocols on the internet. Much of the info out there is old, out-of-date and/or just plain wrong. That is why Jim Humble writes books and his latest book is very thorough in explaining MMS and protocols. There are over 50 protocols in his latest book, MMS Health Recovery Guidebook. Most if not all your questions will be answered in the book.

If you are making MMS1 and adding DMSO that is Protocol 1000 Plus, the next step after Protocol 1000.

I know most people think that MMS is completely activated by the way the activation process is described, but not so. Years ago I wanted to know if all the MMS was really activated in 30 seconds time, so I ran some tests to find out. Big surprise! See these charts to see the test results. Keep in mind that one 'drop' of MMS contains 6.7 mg of CLO2. Drop size is another matter that I won't get into here.

Thirty seconds activation time is correct when you make MMS1. If you make CDH, then the activation is about 12 hours and that activates about half of the MMS. CDS is a different process and will produce 100% CLO2 in distilled water.

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Signs That MMS is Working *** But That You Have Overdosed *** 11 Mar 2019 13:28 #60061

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I just had a big Herx reaction yesterday. Today I'm reducing my dose by 50%.

I am using MMS1 + HCL + DMSO that was purchased in 2014 but when mixed it still turns amber.

The DMSO makes me want to gag though. Is there a shelf life on DMSO?

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