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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 08 Apr 2012 00:59 #15574

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I haven't been able to get to the forum for the last 3 days, so don't know how stable my connection is right now. Seems to be a new router we installed here. Can't get to anything hosted on 1984hosting which is what I have my two new websites going up on also.

David, I saw what fox told you in the mms yahoo group and I think he his correct and that tech bulletin from Oxychem should be good. However when I use a hygrometer that I purchased I am not coming out right on 1.23-1.24 that it should be for specific gravity. I have been coming out at 1.22, always the same and I make 3 gal. batches of MMS weighing the water and sodium chlorite, so I don't know what is going on.

I don't have a good mg scale yet for accurate weighing of smaller amounts.

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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 15 Apr 2012 11:51 #15895

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Hi Michael,

This challenge has really been bugging me and I wanted to test the figures I received for accuracy before I replied. Long story short, I finally figured it out! Woohoo! :P

Working Solution For How to Arrive At a Set Volume of Solution When Mixing Powders is:
1) Take preferred finished volume in milliliters and multiply by 1.61 to get the total weight in grams.
2) 28% of total weight = Needed NaClO2 (Flakes)
3) 72% of total weight = Needed Distilled Water

I discovered that the density of MMS is 1.61 at a weight of 47.6 grams per fluid ounce and that was the missing link I desperately needed. The bottom line is that I tested this formula and it works. I welcome you to test it for yourself and let me know your results.

Also, I just posted the full details on how I discovered this working solution over in the "Miracle Mineral Supplement" group if you think it would be beneficial for others to post it here.

Have a great day!

David

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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 15 Apr 2012 14:18 #15901

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Does it make a difference if you live in a really humid area or in a very dry area? i.e., if the SC has absorbed moisture?
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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 16 Apr 2012 01:43 #15924

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Hi Pam,

That's a good question to which I don't know for sure. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area and we don't normally have high humidity here. We've had rain the past week off and on although, it's about 63% humidity here right now.

I would guess that even if the humidity of the climate you were in did make a difference, the finished volume amount could differ, though not by very much. The 28% Sodium Chlorite to 72% Distilled Water ratio would still be correct.

Test it for the humidity in your area to find out.
Here is how I arrived at my conclusion for 1.61 MMS density:

Mix up 4-6 fluid ounces of MMS with the Sodium Chlorite which you have now the same way you normally would and weigh it in grams to determine how much 1 ounce of MMS weighs.
Once you know how much 1 fluid ounce of MMS weighs then plug this data into the following formula.

Example:
In my experiment, I found that 1 fluid ounce of MMS weighed 47.6 grams. We know that 1 fluid ounce is equal to 29.573 ML, so next use the following formula to find the density:
(Mass) 47.6 grams / (Volume) 29.573 ML = (Density) 1.609 OR 1.61

“Density is the Key”
• Density = Mass / Volume (Grams / Milliliters)
• Mass = Density x Volume
• Volume = Mass / Density

In my experiment, I wanted to end up with 6 fluid ounces of MMS.

So, To Make 6 fl oz of MMS with This Formula, the Method Would Be:
First, convert 6 fl oz into ML like this: 6 fl oz X 29.573 = 177.438 ML
• (MMS Density) 1.61 X (Volume) 177.438 = (Total Weight) 285.67 grams
• (Total Weight) 285.67 grams X .28 (28%) = (NaClO2) 79.98 grams
• (Total Weight) 285.67 grams - (NaClO2) 79.98 = (Distilled Water) 205.69 grams

My result was 6 fluid ounces of MMS.

All I know is that this method worked for me. It would be helpful if others could apply this method for themselves where they live and let me know how it works for them. I really want to know! :)

David

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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 16 Apr 2012 02:40 #15930

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I think (IMHO, FWIW) you need to use what works in your area.

Jim Humble has stated "this is not rocket science" - which leaves me to believe that there is some level of variability that is acceptable - So, obsessing about details may not be really necessary - (after all, people have regained health with 3 drops - does their dropper measure 24 drops per mL or 16 drops per mL?) -
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Re: How to arrive at a set volume of solution when mixing powders? 16 Apr 2012 03:09 #15939

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Thanks Pam,

I'm happy with my results now. I'm sure it's just the technician in me that has to be a perfectionist. It's just that if I only have to do something once, I would like to know how to get it right the first time. Wasting time and/or materials has never been okay to me.

Who knows.... There could be others out there wondering the same thing that I did when I started this question. ;)

David

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