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19 Aug 2012 23:27 #21536 by Horsefeathers
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Yee Haa! Maybe now we are on the right track?!! :)

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19 Aug 2012 23:30 #21538 by Macaddict08
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THAT's what I forgot Pam.... the extra drops of RAW MMS (unactivated)

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19 Aug 2012 23:33 #21539 by fourfingerz
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If you go for the injection - Charge your syringe - remove the needle - holding the needle only - bump the rump a couple of time with the heel of your hand ,without inserting the needle - then jab it in on the 3 bump. Then screw on the syringe - then pull back on the plunger - if you get blood - your in a vein or artery - start again - bump, bump, jab, etc. You do not want to dose straight into a vein or artery - just the muscle .

Clint is right on enemas - go slow and warm - been there - on myself. I wouldn't flush (he's flushed). But I would keep it up.

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20 Aug 2012 21:39 #21587 by drgreen
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Thank you Pam, Fourfingerz, Macaddict and Horsefeathers :) As I understand it its the acidity of the CDS that causes the pain and using the unactivated MMS drops will raise the PH and lessen the pain. I will do my homework and get an injectable solution prepared.

I have visited Calvin again and tried (AGAIN) to get the CDS to stay inside him (rectal dose) I failed, I don't have an enema bag that I can use to let the solution enter him via gravity. I am instead using a 60ml syringe and a soft piece of tube. I am not forcing the solution in but rather going very very slowly. When I first tried this method I got 500ml of plain warm water inside him without it coming back out, but now with the CDS no matter how slow I go it comes back out after a few seconds and only around 30ml being inserted :(

His health seems the same, very affectionate, very thin, cant walk but eager to feed. he licks me quite obsessively until he has made a big wet patch on my clothes and tries to suckle my fingers, fist, nose and pretty much anything he can get in his mouth :) he is a real fighter and the farmer described him as his best ever calf until he got sick.

I won't rush the injections until they are 'right' but I have to move quickly as although I can't see him getting too much worse, he definitely isn't getting better.

Thanks again for the advice everyone
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21 Aug 2012 00:00 #21595 by fourfingerz
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I don't know if you subscribe to the Genesis II news letter just out - but the report on action in Columbia (on people) is that they are buffering CDS orally as well. I believe it's formulated at 1 drop unactivated MMS per cc of CDS. I also noted increased performance when I added activated MMS to the CDS for Neula. Perhaps that was just some of the unactivated MMS buffering the CDS. Maybe try adding some buffering MMS to the oral and rectal CDS doses would help.

Hang in there - you're in uncharted territory - and doing a great job!

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21 Aug 2012 19:45 #21653 by sevenrays
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OK, I have been following this thread since it started and the suspense is getting to me now.

How is Calvin doing???

Drgreen bless you for the devotion, time and effort you are putting in for this little guy. I am praying he recovers. I know you are doing the best you can. Keep up the great work.

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22 Aug 2012 12:01 #21672 by Horsefeathers
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Drgreen:
I am afraid to ask, however didn't see an update last night. How is Calvin? Is he yet alive? Did you do injection? If so, how did it go, both good and bad.

Am hoping at this point that no news is good news, but......
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22 Aug 2012 18:00 #21686 by drgreen
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Hey everyone :) My computer has died and I have just come round to a friends to let you all know what is happening. I had to have my seventeen year old dog Jake put to sleep today and have been busy with family arranging things :(

Caalvin is still with us :) I have been in touch with Andreas Kalcker regarding the CDS/CDI injections and want to let you know that I havn't injected him yet but will be doing as soon as I can get some saline solution. I have a lot to tell you all and will be back to keep you updated tomorrow. I cant tell you all how gratefull I am for Andreas's very prompt reply, I was really getting frustrated that I wasnt making progress with the oral doses of CDS, hopefully that will be a thing of the past as I received excellent information :)

Please bear with me and I will find the time to explain everything to you all :)

Thank you for following

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22 Aug 2012 18:23 #21687 by Horsefeathers
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So sorry to hear of the passing of your old friend. :(

Thank you for your quick note to us all and we'll wait patiently for further info!

All the best to you.

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22 Aug 2012 19:48 #21689 by fourfingerz
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Hang in there Damian. I'm very sorry about Jake. I had to make the same decision with Amigo my buddy of 10 years, back in January. All our dogs are now on MMS / CDS daily.

And contacting Andreas directly is very wise - and gutsy!! Please share his CDI protocol - I've been waiting for months for some word on it (I understand it's probably in development still). But if we take that as a starting point and run with it, reporting through the forum , we could help many animals around the globe. Wil Spence ( on this forum) who's advice got me started treating Neula, indicated his AOT (MMS) stopped a horse with colic in a couple of hours. Colic is the cause of many many horse deaths (we lost Time Bandit to it 8 years ago) - and it's a hideous way to go. An injection for it would change the world.

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