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NEW CDS VIDEO 22 Apr 2012 13:39 #16171

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The simplified production of CDS Video will make the process much easier, thank you.

I did notice that while Jim was blowing through the tubing to expel the gas into the one liter bottle, there was quite a bit of gas escaping out of the water bottle.

Isn't that pure chlorine dioxide escaping? And, that begs the question - how can one more efficiently capture all of the gas that is produced?

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Re: NEW CDS VIDEO 22 Apr 2012 15:20 #16176

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That is an excellent question, and one that JH has been working on for several months (I know by way of a private email) -

The problem is that the gas will build up pressure - so once it starts to off-gas from the fluid you're instilling it in,you don't particularly want to "hold it back" with a lid or something, or it will pop. I know that there are several videos done where the instillation of the gas is done into multiple bottles (Andreas has one, Jim had one) - but I'm sure there's still some loss of the gas.

I'm wondering if the size of the air bubbles makes a difference. When you blow into the tube the air comes out in a big push, so the bubbles pop to the surface. Maybe an air diffuser in the receiving bottle might help.

If you figure it out, let us know!

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Re: NEW CDS VIDEO 22 Apr 2012 17:41 #16189

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Hi Richard. Water will only dissolve a certain amount of gas. The amount varies with inversely with temperature - the colder the water, the greater its capacity. Another consideration is how much other gas (air) is already dissolved in the water. If one were to boil the water , cap the container and refrigerate it , it would then be at its maximum capacity.

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Re: NEW CDS VIDEO 22 Apr 2012 18:51 #16193

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I have tried an air diffuser during my first CDS production run, which I did according to the original video which showed the use of a diffuser.

During the production, the diffuser came unglued at the junction of the glass beading with the inlet tube. I'm assuming that the CDS acted as a solvent causing the failure.

Later I saw the newer video which did not show the use of a diffuser, nor did the newest "simplified" CDS generation video, so I guess that it's not really needed.
Although, there is still the question of how to capture the most CDS gas possible, which, ostensibly, the diffuser would have helped with.

Then, the next step seems to be utilizing multiple collection jars.

Is there a way to do a bulk production, like the first video, using one ounce each of MMS and citric acid, with multiple collection jars, but utilizing the simplified approach without heating at approximately 170 degress F, to ice water?

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Re: NEW CDS VIDEO 23 Apr 2012 18:16 #16224

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I tried Jim's new method and it works fine! I did have two receiver bottles ready with distilled water.

Jim mentions silicone tubing. I found it in the local pet store. 8 feet for $4.00 is the cost in San Diego, CA. It is green in color. The staff said that the other color is whitish but they do not carry it.

It is the size that you can use with a baby bottle nipple. I cut two holes like Jim's and it worked. I did have to use the extra ring gasket (made from a baby bottle nipple) to get a tight seal on the bottle.

I have not found the glass baby bottles in San Diego so I am going to order them on-line. I found 4 oz. bottles and bigger.

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Re: NEW CDS VIDEO 23 Apr 2012 22:24 #16235

pam Offline Platinum Boarder Posts: 4593 Thank you received: 3703	Sounds like you've got a plan! You can also use HDPE tubing, as well as the silicone tubing. Keep us posted as to your results! The following user(s) said Thank You: paul
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